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Katie Hafner

Katie Hafner

Posted: November 13, 2010 11:04 AM

In 2002, my husband died very suddenly. My main concern that day was how to deliver the news to our daughter, then eight. Someone put me in touch with Judith Wallerstein, an expert in child psychology who coached me through what to say. That phone conversation with Wallerstein, and the talk I had with my daughter an hour later, are moments I will never forget.

Eight years later, I came across Wallerstein again, in an entirely different context. In the course of writing a memoir, which touches on my experience as the child of divorce, I read her book, The Unexpected Legacy of Divorce: A 25 Year Landmark Study (Hyperion). Published in 2000, the book became a bestseller and was translated into more than a dozen languages.

Unexpected Legacy reports the findings of the California Children of Divorce Study, which began in 1971, a year after the nation's first no-fault divorce law was imposed in California. Wallerstein was the principal investigator on the study. I recently sat down with Wallerstein, 88, at her home in Tiburon, California to discuss her book, its own lasting legacy, and her current interests related to divorce and its complexities.

KH: For people who might not know about Unexpected Legacy, can you describe it briefly?

JW: My book was about the long-term effects of divorce on children. There were about 100 of these children, and I got to know them as if they were members of my family. I saw them at the time of the breakup, then 18 months, 10, years, 15 years and 25 years later. At the 25-year mark, the kids in my study ranged in age from 28 to 43. Many are still in touch with me. I'm sort of a tribal elder who was there at the important moments of their lives.

What the book showed is that the effects of divorce really crescendo when the kids are in late adolescence and entering young adulthood. We saw independent young adults who relied on themselves and were moral people. They were angry and compassionate at the same time about their parents. And almost all of them had trouble in their relationships with the opposite sex.

KH: How so?

JW: They were very suspicious of anything lasting, and they expected to be betrayed, and they expected to be betrayed. One young woman said, "If my boyfriend is 20 minutes late, I wonder who he's with."

Sometimes it doesn't show itself so blatantly. This issue of, 'Can I trust this man?' or 'Can I trust this woman?' is part of every courtship, but there's more of it in these kids, more doubting that that it's going to last. That's a heartbreaking situation.

So for many of them, their twenties were the hardest years of their life, because they all wanted what their parents hadn't had: love, and a family that would last. And that was my message. Nobody had said that before.

KH: What was the reaction to the book when it came out?

JW: I got a lot of letters and calls saying, 'Thank God somebody told the truth.' Then I got the usual critics, who said, I was against divorce. I'm not against divorce. I probably know more about unhappy marriage than anybody in America and I've seen a lot of suffering. For some men and women, divorce was the best decision of their life.

KH: How have things changed since the book came out?

JW: There has been a greater recognition that children suffer with divorce, and they need the parents' attention at the time. There was none of that when I started. And there has been a rise in joint custody, which may or may not be useful to many children but it does reflect greater recognition of the importance of the father, and the greater commitment of father.

KH: What kind of follow-up work have you done in the decade since the book's
publication?

JW: What I'm writing now is about what happens to women and men after divorce and how little prepared they both are for this next chapter in their lives. People still think of it as a new beginning. They want a new beginning. They want those years back. But there are no completely new beginnings in life, nor is there a way to predict what's going to happen, especially when you've got children. All the attorneys and all the people who do counseling discuss getting through the divorce, but not what's going to happen in their lives going forward.

KH: If there's no way to predict what's going to happen, what do you advise people to do?

JW: Women, especially women today, need to be thinking not just in terms of what they're getting away from. There are many challenges ahead. You may have less time available with your children with all that you will face. You will still have an important relationship to maintain with the children's father on behalf of your children. And soon there may be brand new people in your family -- the children's new stepmother, your second husband and perhaps new children, his, hers and yours with lots of new voices, some in harmony, others not.

Women also need to be preparing for the marketplace. The women who had good jobs and good incomes and high level marketable skills did a helluva lot better in preparing for the post-divorce years, especially if their job was with men and women so they had the chance to meet many people and could make a better choice the second time around. You will have a lot on your plate. A lot of it involves recognizing that your relationship with your children is going to be more cut into by the other demands on your time, like a job, building a new successful remarriage, and the social life you're reconstructing for yourself and for them.

And women need to be prepared for the fact that Prince Charming isn't standing there waiting for you. Sometimes hopes are fully realized. But sometimes it's a rocky road.

This is the start of a regular column in this spot. I hope you'll share your own
stories, questions -- and, of course, your viewpoint -- via comments or email
(katieh@gmail.com).

 
 
 
In 2002, my husband died very suddenly. My main concern that day was how to deliver the news to our daughter, then eight. Someone put me in touch with Judith Wallerstein, an expert in child psychology...
In 2002, my husband died very suddenly. My main concern that day was how to deliver the news to our daughter, then eight. Someone put me in touch with Judith Wallerstein, an expert in child psychology...
 
 
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Lordcron
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04:07 AM on 11/17/2010
My parents never really got along and then they divorced when we were preteens and as a result my brother and I are in our 40's and will never get married. Every last one of them end. We don't and didn't have one role model of a successful marriage. Well..... I have a great Uncle who been married for 60 years but that's it. Just a bunch of divorces and child support. No thank you! I can do bad all by myself. LOL!
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colomom
09:04 PM on 11/16/2010
My parents divorced when I was 5 years old (1965). I think the damage to my self-esteem was profound and I still see the effects today.
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sgtgwn
06:56 PM on 11/15/2010
My husband snuck out on his son and me while we were gone over a weekend. He'd been sleeping around and was no long "happy" in our marriage. Our son was 14 at the time. Over a year later, he still doesn't like to be around his dad. His father tried to explain to me that our son would be "just fine." What a load of horse pucky! It's amazing how some people can try to justify their behaviors.
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loki
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05:45 PM on 11/15/2010
I think these days many people just feel that if they are not happy at a particular moment, its no big deal to jump ship and move on. No one has the will to take the good with the bad. They expect it to be the same as it was on the day they married. They ignore that fact that marriage is a 2 way street, give and take, good and bad, growing old together. Some think its suppose to be fun and games 24/7 and everything will be perfect for the rest of their lives. If youcant provide them what they want, jewelry, cars, expensive clothes and lavish parties and trips, so they can impress the people who apparently mean more to them than their spouse does, their so called friends, then your just not good enough for them and they will go find someone else. People want t it all now, and they want it to last forever. If not, they walk. More people are dedicated to jobs, friends, even television shows or Internet programs than they are to their own spouse. Itsa different world compared to just 30 years ago. Its a much more selfish and self serving world. That is for sure. THere is no longer the dedication to family, parents are shunned once the kids grow up. Not like in my Chinese half of my family. And the same is rapidly coming true with spouses too. After your usefullness is up, so are you.
11:38 AM on 11/16/2010
Dont forget, 50% of us our still sticking it out. Actually, probably higher than that since many people have more than 1 divorce.
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loki
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05:31 PM on 11/15/2010
My first wife left me she said I was bad for her social life because I didn't want to party and she picked up the habit again in her late 30's, mostly because she started working with youngerpeople and wanted to be like them and not like a married mother. She decided she wanted to date younger black hip hop dressing and acting guys who had started hitting on her at her work.She didn't want to hide her infidelity anymore, so she wanted a divorce. Those were the only two reasons she gave. She said I was a nice guy, a great father, and a good provider, but she didn't want this life anymore and knew there was more out there. So, she left, and found out that the younger hip hop black guys she craved didn't want her long term, just a night or two. She found out she could nolonger dedicate the hours to her job because I wasnt there totake care of the kids and things so she could stay at work, and has been passed over nowfor many promotions. She doesn't have her whole paycheck to blow how she wants because I am not paying all the bills. But she still has time to let me know she blames me for all her problems now , even though she is the one who left me. I didn't cheat, abuse, do anything but care about her then. Not anymore. Im happily remarried. She, is still herlonelyself.
11:39 AM on 11/16/2010
Good for you.
12:58 PM on 11/15/2010
My parents' divorce was very difficult for me and my siblings. I'm actually glad they divorced because they fought all the time, but our life after the divorce was almost as bad. Like a lot of kids from divorced homes, my siblings and I also ended up divorced.

Since divorce is often passed down from generation to generation, I fear my kids will follow in my footsteps. I found a great book to help anyone who may share my concern..."If Your Parents Divorced, Will You Too?" by Sharon Brooks. It focuses on how to break the cycle of divorce and helps to figure out what love looks like. Since most kids from divorced homes didn't witness a loving, healthy relationship between their parents, they don't know what to look for in their own relationships.

Many people here have commented that they wish their parents had divorced because they were so miserable together. I have a girlfriend whose parents have been married for 50 years and can't stand each other, but refuse to get divorced. My girlfriend has many of the same issues I did with relationships. So this book is also helpful for anyone whose parents remained together in an unhappy, dysfuntional relationship. The dynamics are very similar.
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12:47 PM on 11/15/2010
It's impossible to make reliable generalizations when every family is so unique, but it does seem to me, as a family lawyer, that it is the adolescent child that is most vulnerable to the trauma of divorce at the initial stages, and Wallerstein seems to suggest that it is the adolescent who suffers the greatest scars. I suspect that it's because the "Mommy and Daddy still love you, and you don't have to concern yourself with adult problems" doesnt really work with adolescents because they DO understand a lot of what's going on and they THINK they understand everything.

But I also think that there have been a lot of changes in attitudes toward divorce since she wrote her book. These days, the child of the intact nuclear family is no more common than the child with some other family shape - single parent, unmarried parents, blended families - and so the social stigma is gone. We live in a media culture that increasingly seems to conspire against lasting marriage and fidelity, and our kids have grown up in that culture. I have heard many stories of people who "stick it out" for the sake of the kids and then when they divorce, their adult kids make comments like "We thought you should have done this years ago."
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11:32 AM on 11/15/2010
Thank you, Judith Wallerstein. You have it right. The "amicable" divorce is loaded with "sit down and shut up because it could have been worse" poison for the children. The reality of what they feel, and as in war traumatized children, the younger the more lasting the damage, is an intrusion on the genteel gloss that covers a catastrophe that is often enough a necessary one.

Problems then emerge in hypersensitivity to rejection, low self esteem, a damaged capacity to trust, and these lead to other problems. It is then that the adults identify those children themselves as "problem children" without mustering the honesty to write out the complete equation.

Those children then grow up with all that has happened to them refracted until what they have become may appear to them as mainly their fault. They are by this dark process, deprived of their right and just claim to their pain, and many may go through all of life never really understanding what has been done to them. A high percentage are going to have their own marital problems, and the beat goes on.
11:22 AM on 11/15/2010
When my parents announced they were divorcing, I died inside. I was 15 and I never recovered. I wasn't resilient and I didn't bounce back. I guess I was a very sensitive and fragile child and I needed a stable family more than most. I don't blame my parents. They did everything humanly possible. I can't count how many therapists I've seen and how many family meetings and interventions we had. We took more trips together etc. But I never got better. If anything, I just got worse. They even read that book, The Good Divorce and did everything in it. But I was just unfixable. Kids in school called me "Humpty Dumpty", the broken kid that would never be put back together again. Both of my parents have since re-married and are doing great in their new lives and I am proud of them and feel they deserve it. I just let them down by not being strong enough. I figure I was just somehow born wrong. Since their divorce I have been dead inside. And now, decades years later, I am still just waiting for the outside to catch up with the inside.
08:34 PM on 11/15/2010
I'm sorry for how you feel and I can relate, but it can be better. Good luck to you!
10:29 AM on 11/15/2010
Ahhh...but Prince Charming was waiting for me....I got away from the abuser and found a real man who does not hit, verbally abuse or rape me. Divorce is necessary for all parties involved including children when there is a man who is incapable of mutual respect and love. God bless the broken road that led me to my love of my life..man of my dreams and my best friend.
09:43 AM on 11/15/2010
Yes, the children in Wallerstein's original study are not alright. But the research conducted in the last 10 years is not so clear. Wallerstein's sample were children of women whose SES dropped significantly after divorce, whose fathers often showed little involvement, etc. As women have gained more earning power, as men have begun stepping up to the plate as parents, both in and our of marriage, the outcomes for children of divorce today are likely to be different when researchers visit them in 25 years. There are dozens upon dozens of confounding variables that make it impossible to know which negative outcomes are directly the result of the divorce and how many are the result of changes in living status, schools attended, time with parent, as well as the dysfunction in the home before the divorce. None of these kids were studied BEFORE their parents divorced, so to emphasize cause and effect when its only correlation is poor science. The marriage and divorce rate has sustained a fairly steady rate over the last 3 years--if all children of divorce get divorced at rates higher than their parents, then we'd be at complete divorce by now. We're not. Divorce is horrible, for everyone. But its effects are not simple to study and are even less simple to explain.
03:02 PM on 11/15/2010
Do you have a reference to this recent research ? My experience is the results are confoundingly consistent unless conducted by ideologues.
03:36 PM on 11/15/2010
Have you ever consulted any research that wasn't generated by "fathers rights" groups? I hate to break this to you, but all that research you've linked me to was "conducted by ideologues". I guess you don't mind that as long as it coincides with what you want to hear.
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jammer0079
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04:46 AM on 11/15/2010
Divorces will end, when men and women realize that marriage's original purpose was based upon companionship not love.
03:04 PM on 11/15/2010
Men already have begun to recognize that marriage is a financial trap set by the govt.
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rjmtx
blah blah blah
09:27 PM on 11/14/2010
Why is there divorce section on HP? I don't know, it just strikes me as odd that this issue is featured on this site. Why not an adoption, dating, marriage, abortion, family, etc, section?

I'm divorced, and still don't see the point of this section.
09:57 AM on 11/15/2010
Not taking offense at your position just answering your question. I would guess the divorce section is here because the majority of marriages end in divorce. It is common ground and topical, family values and all that. I enjoy reading it myself.
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HowietheScreamer
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11:05 AM on 11/15/2010
Maybe if you had read the kickoff post you would understand. The original post from AH can be found here
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/arianna-huffington/introducing-huffpost-divo_b_780378.html
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rjmtx
blah blah blah
08:43 PM on 11/15/2010
OK, just read it, and still am not a big fan of it. I just won't frequent it. That's it. I'm happy to have the divorcing part of my life behind me.
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conscioushope
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09:11 PM on 11/14/2010
As a divorced woman, who is now happily married....

I would say my hopes were realized, but at a price I continue to pay, as do my adult daughters.

The road is not easy; the road is long and winding; the road has forks that lead places you do not know.

To anyone thinking of divorce, I would say to try and save the marriage IF possible..... with counseling for BOTH. If it is not possible, go into counseling alone. Also, the children could benefit from counseling, for sure.

I can say that I am happier now in my second marriage than I've been in my life, but my relationship with my now adult daughters has suffered and will probably never be what I'd like it to be. They would never go to any counseling.

And, as a PS, my current spouse and I did a year of counseling before we married. I think that helped us as much as anything, except for our love of one another.
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03:14 AM on 11/15/2010
Counseling for BOTH is ideal, but in many cases, only one half of the couple will do it. If you're married to someone with borderline personality disorder, chances are your "worse" half will refuse counseling and try to destroy you through an ugly distortion campaign, instead.
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conscioushope
"There is no darkness but ignorance." Shakespeare
10:49 AM on 11/15/2010
You are so right, Theda!

Thanks for adding that important detail. My ex was one who refused to go as well.....
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Susan Shaffer
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02:34 PM on 11/15/2010
my ex husband actually intiated counselling. In the end he didn't really understand the point of it. He thought the counsellor would tell me I was wrong when in fact he said the opposite.
08:31 PM on 11/14/2010
Many of you argue in favor of marriage. No one disagrees in principle. We are just poorly equiped. It is clear that as a culture we have very poor 'peacemaking' skills. We are great at the fight. We value the fight and the winner. But everytime I 'win' an argument or a fight with my spouse - the whole family loses. Making peace is far far more difficult. I don't think we're lazy. Just not raised with examples of 'peacemaking' to follow or learn from. When we put down the fight and the obsession with being 'right', when our friends bring their marital woes to us and we counsel reconciliation instead of validating their anger and righteousness, when we tell friends we love them too much to see them hurt their kids or throw their marriage away and hold them accountable to give peace a chance, we might just start to turn this divorce epidemic around.