Next time someone says my tofu scrambler or tempeh burger looks gross, I'll just show them this clip:
The only thing more awful than that chili is the process that turns cows into that slop.
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Next time someone says my tofu scrambler or tempeh burger looks gross, I'll just show them this clip:
The only thing more awful than that chili is the process that turns cows into that slop.
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It's funny - When I am watching the Food Network, Iron Chef or even Martha, and see some huge gross slab of raw meat-or cooked meat-I always say to myself...I could change the channel now, but if people can EAT that I can at least stand to LOOK at it.
...and yes some vegan food can look funky, but it's never worse than a bloody hand eaten cut of rare steak, for example...And there us nothing ugly about fresh fruits and veggies.
If a man aspires towards a righteous life,his first act of abstinence is from injury to animals.....Leo Tolstoy
anyone who eats chili needs to personally kill the cow himself. only a coward kills the innocent and defenseless. a cow is a gentle herbivore that has no claws or fangs but only wants to life her life like you and me. it is the worst most disgusting sin there is to slaughter innocent creatures so someone can have their "chili'!!!!!!!!!!!!! bon appetite! let him look into the eyes of the cow as her throat is cut.
I repeat an old observation on the subject of vegetarianism/veganism: if you wish to be vegetarian or vegan for whatever reason, then do so. I will offer no objections, but I ask for reciprocal tolerance for my own carniverous habits.
You may be thinking that vegans who talk about food are complainers and we should just try to be like everyone else and shut up.
BUT REALLY-- who the heck can shut up when non-vegans are CONSTANTLY spreading lies about vegans being bad parents, being unhealthy, eat boring food. It's just bologna.
Katie, I am almost vegetarian (I enjoy the odd chicken pizza) but I along with many others am really tired of the 'us vegans' presenting the 'facts' about not eating meat etc. Odyssey58 said it perfectly - keep doing what you're doing - you're not special - spare us the preaching - you do not have all the facts, even though you obviously think you do.
" To a man whose mind is free there is something even more intolerabe in the sufferings of animals than the sufferings of man. For with the later it is at least admitted that suffering is evil and that the man who causes it is a criminal, but thougands or animlas are uselessly butchered everydy without a shadow orf remorse. If any man were to refer to it, he would be thought ridiculous. And THAT is the unpadonable crime."..................Romain Rolland, author nobel prize 1915. get over your little tiredness 'bunny!
The Dali Lama is not a vegan. Or a vegetarian. He likes that Yak cream in his tea and eats some meat so he doesn't get sick. I want him to live longer than the common vegetarian who cuts his or her life short for perfectly good reasons.
As Mark Twain said, for every complex problem there is a simple answer, and that answer is wrong. We should all eat a lot of vegetables, and those who take the lives of animals for sustenance can be healthier than those who do not. As my hero, vegetarian George Bernard Shaw noted, a healthy body is the product of a healthy mind. Concentrating on food is simplistic and too often a source of soul cramping self congratulation.
Common vegetarians are at no more risk of cutting their lives short than common omnivores. I'm not sure what you are trying to say here, unless that a balanced and healthy diet can be omnivorous or vegetarian.
The most important principle for health is probably to eat a lot vegetables, the more local the better. Getting too hung up on meat doesn't help. Convincing everyone in the US to increase their vegetable consumption would have the side effect of decreasing meat consumption, and would be better than convincing a few hardy souls to go vegan. But I think that vegans are morally right that there is no adequate defense for factory farming, nutritional or otherwise. Animals raised in factory farms are tortured and abused before they are killed. Chickens may never see the sun their entire short lives, and live in the filth of their own excrement. If they weren't killed as babies, they would develop fatal health problems from these conditions, including cancers and tumors, lung and heart diseases, etc. So it's hard for me to believe it's healthy to eat them.
On the other hand, a little yak cream in your tea, or a bit of meat from a truly free range animal -- that sounds much healthier and more moral. It's not really about eating meat so much as boycotting systemic animal torture for profit. If more vegans addressed it in those terms, meat eaters might be more sympathetic, even if they weren't converted.
: )
You are absolutely right. The industrialized food production system is an abomination. The phony free range designation given chickens raised for only the last couple weeks or so of their lives "free" to visit a small patch of lawn is pretty ridiculous, but corporate thinking will out.
There's plenty of mystic arguments for omnivorous eating. I can imagine the souls of the animals and vegetables enjoying a well-cooked meal after their lives are cut short humanely and with some sensitivity.
Without being eaten, some species would die out, of course, so I'd be in favor of a lot more types of chickens, goats, cows, pigs, and what not being raised humanely on smaller sustainable farms to be harvested more naturally. The idea that anything "stolen" from animals (honey or eggs) is also to be avoided would definitely kill plenty of animals who would no longer have a role in the great circle of being or what have you.
Katie, I don't think your food is gross. I tried it. I even liked it. But I became fat, tired, and hungry. Some of us can't do vegan or vegetarian. It's just who we are. So please give it a rest and leave us alone.
Your articles and other anti-meat ones bring out such nastiness. Don't we get enough of that in politics?
If a vegan diet works for you, then great. Enjoy. But please stop trying to bully the rest of us into adopting a diet that isn't right for everyone.
Odyssey 58, I'm sorry to hear vegetarianism didn't work for you. I'm certainly not trying to bully anyone into eating a certain way. I'm just presenting an alternate way of eating and letting HP readers know some of the facts about the ways not eating meat can help your animals, the environment and your health, if done correctly for your body. We vegans have a sense of humor, too, and this was just a silly video.
Katie, your post wasn't informative or amusing; it might fly on a vegan blog as a throwaway joke, but here I'm surprised an editor let it through as a standalone feature. It's got no logic to it at all -- I could show you vegetarian chili being prepared in just as disgusting a manner, because it's the industrialised process that's gross in that clip.
Posting things like this is just a self-indulgent exercise, and while I have no particular quarrel with vegans or vegetarians or people who only eat Twinkies, "articles" like this are a turn-off.
I tried to go veggie 2 years ago when I started practicing traditional Chinese medicine. BIG mistake. I wound up in worse health than when I started.
It's not a healthy diet for everyone, and I can't stand the vegan argument "oh you're just doing it wrong."
I agree, the farming/ranching, slaughter, and safety regulations surrounding our meat need a DRASTIC overhaul, but veganism isn't going to solve the world's problems.
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It's funny - When I am watching the Food Network, Iron Chef or even Martha, and see some huge gross slab of raw meat-or cooked meat-I always say to myself...I could change the channel now, but if people can EAT that I can at least stand to LOOK at it.
...and yes some vegan food can look funky, but it's never worse than a bloody hand eaten cut of rare steak, for example...And there us nothing ugly about fresh fruits and veggies.
Kathy, www.healthy-happy-life.com
If a man aspires towards a righteous life,his first act of abstinence is from injury to animals.....Leo Tolstoy
anyone who eats chili needs to personally kill the cow himself. only a coward kills the innocent and defenseless. a cow is a gentle herbivore that has no claws or fangs but only wants to life her life like you and me. it is the worst most disgusting sin there is to slaughter innocent creatures so someone can have their "chili'!!!!!!!!!!!!! bon appetite! let him look into the eyes of the cow as her throat is cut.
I repeat an old observation on the subject of vegetarianism/veganism: if you wish to be vegetarian or vegan for whatever reason, then do so. I will offer no objections, but I ask for reciprocal tolerance for my own carniverous habits.
Was that Skyline Chili??
You may be thinking that vegans who talk about food are complainers and we should just try to be like everyone else and shut up.
BUT REALLY-- who the heck can shut up when non-vegans are CONSTANTLY spreading lies about vegans being bad parents, being unhealthy, eat boring food. It's just bologna.
Huh? Who have you been hanging around with? I have never heard any of this 'constant lying'. Can anyone say martyr complex?
And no one's asking vegans to try to be like everyone else. But we are telling them to shut up already!
Katie, I am almost vegetarian (I enjoy the odd chicken pizza) but I along with many others am really tired of the 'us vegans' presenting the 'facts' about not eating meat etc. Odyssey58 said it perfectly - keep doing what you're doing - you're not special - spare us the preaching - you do not have all the facts, even though you obviously think you do.
" To a man whose mind is free there is something even more intolerabe in the sufferings of animals than the sufferings of man. For with the later it is at least admitted that suffering is evil and that the man who causes it is a criminal, but thougands or animlas are uselessly butchered everydy without a shadow orf remorse. If any man were to refer to it, he would be thought ridiculous. And THAT is the unpadonable crime."..................Romain Rolland, author nobel prize 1915. get over your little tiredness 'bunny!
The Dali Lama is not a vegan. Or a vegetarian. He likes that Yak cream in his tea and eats some meat so he doesn't get sick. I want him to live longer than the common vegetarian who cuts his or her life short for perfectly good reasons.
As Mark Twain said, for every complex problem there is a simple answer, and that answer is wrong. We should all eat a lot of vegetables, and those who take the lives of animals for sustenance can be healthier than those who do not. As my hero, vegetarian George Bernard Shaw noted, a healthy body is the product of a healthy mind. Concentrating on food is simplistic and too often a source of soul cramping self congratulation.
Common vegetarians are at no more risk of cutting their lives short than common omnivores. I'm not sure what you are trying to say here, unless that a balanced and healthy diet can be omnivorous or vegetarian.
The most important principle for health is probably to eat a lot vegetables, the more local the better. Getting too hung up on meat doesn't help. Convincing everyone in the US to increase their vegetable consumption would have the side effect of decreasing meat consumption, and would be better than convincing a few hardy souls to go vegan. But I think that vegans are morally right that there is no adequate defense for factory farming, nutritional or otherwise. Animals raised in factory farms are tortured and abused before they are killed. Chickens may never see the sun their entire short lives, and live in the filth of their own excrement. If they weren't killed as babies, they would develop fatal health problems from these conditions, including cancers and tumors, lung and heart diseases, etc. So it's hard for me to believe it's healthy to eat them.
On the other hand, a little yak cream in your tea, or a bit of meat from a truly free range animal -- that sounds much healthier and more moral. It's not really about eating meat so much as boycotting systemic animal torture for profit. If more vegans addressed it in those terms, meat eaters might be more sympathetic, even if they weren't converted.
: )
You are absolutely right. The industrialized food production system is an abomination. The phony free range designation given chickens raised for only the last couple weeks or so of their lives "free" to visit a small patch of lawn is pretty ridiculous, but corporate thinking will out.
There's plenty of mystic arguments for omnivorous eating. I can imagine the souls of the animals and vegetables enjoying a well-cooked meal after their lives are cut short humanely and with some sensitivity.
Without being eaten, some species would die out, of course, so I'd be in favor of a lot more types of chickens, goats, cows, pigs, and what not being raised humanely on smaller sustainable farms to be harvested more naturally. The idea that anything "stolen" from animals (honey or eggs) is also to be avoided would definitely kill plenty of animals who would no longer have a role in the great circle of being or what have you.
There IS vegegarian chili, you know...
At any rate, chili rocks.
No veggie chili at Skyline. Sorry, try again.
OK..... THAT was downright silly.
Long live chilli!!!
Katie, I don't think your food is gross. I tried it. I even liked it. But I became fat, tired, and hungry. Some of us can't do vegan or vegetarian. It's just who we are. So please give it a rest and leave us alone.
Your articles and other anti-meat ones bring out such nastiness. Don't we get enough of that in politics?
If a vegan diet works for you, then great. Enjoy. But please stop trying to bully the rest of us into adopting a diet that isn't right for everyone.
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Odyssey 58, I'm sorry to hear vegetarianism didn't work for you. I'm certainly not trying to bully anyone into eating a certain way. I'm just presenting an alternate way of eating and letting HP readers know some of the facts about the ways not eating meat can help your animals, the environment and your health, if done correctly for your body. We vegans have a sense of humor, too, and this was just a silly video.
Katie, your post wasn't informative or amusing; it might fly on a vegan blog as a throwaway joke, but here I'm surprised an editor let it through as a standalone feature. It's got no logic to it at all -- I could show you vegetarian chili being prepared in just as disgusting a manner, because it's the industrialised process that's gross in that clip.
Posting things like this is just a self-indulgent exercise, and while I have no particular quarrel with vegans or vegetarians or people who only eat Twinkies, "articles" like this are a turn-off.
I tried to go veggie 2 years ago when I started practicing traditional Chinese medicine. BIG mistake. I wound up in worse health than when I started.
It's not a healthy diet for everyone, and I can't stand the vegan argument "oh you're just doing it wrong."
I agree, the farming/ranching, slaughter, and safety regulations surrounding our meat need a DRASTIC overhaul, but veganism isn't going to solve the world's problems.
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