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How Gamblers -- History's Most Accurate Election Forecasters -- Are Betting on 2012

Posted: 10/24/2012 4:11 pm

I don't like uncertainty. The current presidential polls -- Gallup with Romney leading by three percent, CBS with Obama up by two percent, aggregators split on whose nose is ahead -- are a hotbed of uncertainty. Fortunately there are veritable election oracles I can turn to instead: gamblers.

In 2004, Gallup failed to forecast the winner of the popular vote for president -- for the second straight election. Halfway through Election Day 2004, various exit polls showed Kerry with the lead. Meanwhile 91 percent of bettors on Betfair.com had their money on Bush. The betting markets also were correct on the winner in each of the 50 states.

Before the 2008 election, I spoke to Koleman Strumpf, a University of Kansas economics professor who tracks betting trends. "Relative to the polls, the betting markets have to think hard about what they're saying since they are putting their money at stake," he said. "Also polls tend to reflect what people are thinking at a given moment, versus a forecast of what will happen on election day -- post-convention bounces, for instance."

Added Paulick Report editor Ray Paulick, one of America's top horseracing handicappers and a political prediction markets aficionado, "Gamblers have more experience with cheaters. They take voter fraud into their metrics. Polls don't. Nor do polls take into account intangibles like how each state's secretary of state factors in or systems within a state designed to eliminate voters."

In 2008, 90 percent of gamblers correctly forecast an Obama victory. They were also on the money with 48 of 50 states.

Gamblers' success in this arena is nothing new. In presidential races beginning in 1896, the New York Times, Sun, and World provided daily betting quotes. The papers' sources were bookies who had agents at every stump and whistle-stop to gather intel and quantify popular sentiment. Between 1884 and 1940, the bettors erred on just one of sixteen elections, Wilson's 1916 upset of Hughes.

Ironically, polls sent gamblers to the sideline. "Prior to Gallup's introduction in 1936, newspapers had little to report about the election horse race other than the betting markets," Strumpf explains. "When scientific polls came along, newspapers had something to report other than markets they were oftentimes uncomfortable with."

The same discomfort led to states relegating such gamblers to outlaws. The Internet has given rise to new forums, however. As of this writing, betting at the three biggest prediction markets is as follows: Betfair has Obama with a 64 percent chance to win to Romney's 36 percent; Intrade has the president at 58 percent; and the Iowa Electronic Markets have the president at 59 percent. Oddschecker shows bookmakers to be even more bullish on Obama.

Why are the polls and gamblers so far apart?

"The answer highlights one of the main differences between the polls and markets like Intrade," Intrade's exchange operations manager Carl Wolfenden told me. "The polls ask who you're going to vote for -- a question that requires an emotional response. Intrade asks who you think will win -- a rational question that requires someone to look at the facts and real world events, such as polls, debates, speeches, gaffes, scandals and crises. One of these facts is the Electoral College, which isn't accounted for in polls."

Why the big lead for Obama?

"Our markets recognize that Romney probably needs to win Ohio to beat Obama," Wolfenden says. "And so the price for Obama to be reelected has closely tracked his probability of winning Ohio. So while Romney may lead in the polls, and he may have flipped a number of other key states -- such as Florida, Virginia, Colorado -- to his side of the ledger, our markets appear to believe that without Ohio he can't get it done."

Strumpf adds: "I think the big message in this election cycle is that polls are giving conflicting answers, and unless you are willing to look at several state-level polls, it is hard to make sense of it all. The prediction markets like Intrade cut through all this and give us a single number to focus on."

Still, the consensus among gamblers isn't as strong as in the last two elections. At approximately 3-2 odds, is the outcome in this election any more certain than that of a horse race?

"I much prefer this kind of 60-40 probability than I would in a horse race," says Paulick. "In a match race between two horses over a course of one-and-a-quarter miles, a lot of things can go suddenly wrong. The election is more of a marathon, a four-year race. Short of a huge scandal, I can't see an outcome other than Obama's reelection."

Intrade's scoreboard, updated in real-time here:

 
 
 

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hangdogit
Progressive with some Libertarian (abolish DEA).
11:29 PM on 10/30/2012
Romney always seems to walk away with the money. I bet he has money on Obama. :)
02:40 PM on 11/06/2012
funniest line of all time (this election cycle" we done hangdog it!
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hangdogit
Progressive with some Libertarian (abolish DEA).
05:55 PM on 11/06/2012
Thx.
08:23 PM on 10/28/2012
Who's your daddy? Picking a president is like picking a father. Who is going to watch out for you, who is going to protect you if the worst happens. Now it is clear that some folks have trouble picking a dark skinned daddy. They would rather put themselves in the hands of a man who finds people expendable, just an incovenient cost to be cut out. He would call them whiners and victims. Maybe the gamblers understand what it takes to pick the right daddy. Maybe the times are too precarious for us to pick a daddy like Romney who does not know what it is like to be poor and uncertain of survival. He's got money stashed in off-shore accounts.
11:12 AM on 11/03/2012
Obama knows nothing of being poor. If media had done it's job, you would know this. I would much rather have Mitt's Dad, (btw, who actually marched in the civil rights movement) http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2012/08/how-george-romney-championed-civil-rights-and-challenged-his-church/261073/ for the right of black americans to have equal opportunity to succeed or fail, than one who was blinded by Marxist Utopian idealism, that crushes men's spirits and opportunity. (unless you like to do what the gov tells you).
01:14 PM on 11/03/2012
George Romney was of the same genes, but of a different cloth. He stood up for his principles. George would not be pleased with what Mitt has become. Mitt stands for nothing. You can read into him what you want. And Obama was poor. His mom was on food stamps as a single parent. He made it through top schools because he is smart. It was not given to him. He deserves to be president. If you believe that blowing 1/3 of nations wealth (as happened in 2008 due to greedy capitalists) is a good thing and expresses freedom, you should definitely vote GOP. Obama is an educated and informed man who will take a balanced approach to the economy.
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sixchair
Always left, usually right
07:08 PM on 10/28/2012
My algorithms call 94.7% that Rmoney is a richard. With a 5.3% margin of error.
04:50 PM on 10/28/2012
I'm glad they have it all worked out, but, nonetheless, I think I'll go cast my ballot for President Obama. Just in case, you know.
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sixchair
Always left, usually right
07:09 PM on 10/28/2012
good bet
04:02 PM on 10/28/2012
If I had money to bet on this I would bet on Romney.

The reason is that if Romney wins, I will be a lot worse off economically. The money I will win will partially offset these losses.
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sixchair
Always left, usually right
07:09 PM on 10/28/2012
the only way you'd be better off is if you're in the 1%. and if you don't have enough to bet, you're not. vote Obama.
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notanaxkiller
Athiests are Godless
03:36 PM on 10/28/2012
The gaming idustry is setting up democrats. Make an Obama win too good to pass on, and then rake in the profits. Suckers.
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mzrecycle
a very subtle micro-bio
03:55 PM on 10/28/2012
These betting sites that are mentioned have been doing this for several presidential elections. They've been very accurate. Betters don't go back to places that scam them. Yours is wishful thinking.
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notanaxkiller
Athiests are Godless
05:21 PM on 10/28/2012
The banks never screwed us before they did, either. Or wall street. There is always the first time, and you know Greed is the main game.
08:59 PM on 10/28/2012
MZRECYLE GO TO ONE OF THOSE BIG PLAIN BUILDINGS FULL OF BOOKS, A LIBRARY AND FIND ONE OF THOSE BIG BOOKS FULL OF WORDS, LOOK UP NAIVE, YOUR PICTURE IS RIGHT THERE. LAS VEGAS AND THE GAMBLERS OF AMRICA ARE NOT CALLED SKIM AND SCAM ARTISTS FOR NAUGHT.
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Sullify64
Freely they stood who stood, and fell who fell.
04:15 PM on 10/28/2012
Doesn't much matter what their motives are. They've been successful in picking the winner, moreso than the pollsters.
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02:28 PM on 10/28/2012
>] "Short of a huge scandal, I can't see an outcome other than Obama's reelection."

^ This.

With only about a week and a half 'till Election Day, Intrade, HuffPost and Nate Silver are all forecasting an Obama victory. Of course that by no means says that we can afford to be even the slightest bit lax or overconfident - as every last vote counts - but at this point, it would take nothing short of a political earthquake to change this race, IMO.

All the way 'till November 7th. Obama/Biden 2012. ;D
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notanaxkiller
Athiests are Godless
03:37 PM on 10/28/2012
Someone is going to win a lot of money...who do you think it will be?
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sixchair
Always left, usually right
07:12 PM on 10/28/2012
the odds are long on Rmoney. Why don't you ante up 10k and let us know how you did on 11.7? I'd be interested!
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darkmark
religion, the veil of evil.
02:21 PM on 10/28/2012
i'm green but i read just one article that said my state might, maybe, could go romney so i voted, already, for obama. vote as soon as you can. don't leave it until the last moment.
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mzrecycle
a very subtle micro-bio
03:56 PM on 10/28/2012
I'm all for early voting. In my state voting started Oct. 18. I voted Oct. 19 (wanted to avoid any first day crowds).
02:08 PM on 10/28/2012
amazingly the "polls" are just the opposite of these people

someone is smoking something ...that is clouding their judgement

personally I think the "poll" people are trying to make this closer than it is...

money needs to be spent
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mzrecycle
a very subtle micro-bio
03:59 PM on 10/28/2012
Polls are not opposite the betting odds, if you look at the electoral votes. The popular vote is NOT what determines the winner.
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ProgressiveOldMan
Jesus was right, Ryan is wrong!
01:48 PM on 10/28/2012
Too bad I don't have a million, I would bet on Obama winning! -
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notanaxkiller
Athiests are Godless
03:38 PM on 10/28/2012
That's what gamblers are counting on.
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Sullify64
Freely they stood who stood, and fell who fell.
04:16 PM on 10/28/2012
Given the past history, doubtful.
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Rosanneofpgh
some days youre the dog;others the hydrant
10:03 AM on 10/28/2012
I hope to God that the gamblers are right again.
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bushguy
A plague on both your houses
08:41 AM on 10/28/2012
60-40 is not betting odds.
12:54 PM on 10/28/2012
Actually if you are betting football or anything where you are laying 11 to win 10, a 52.4 to 47.6 percent favorability will show a profit. Sixty/forty is a dream for bettors.
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bushguy
A plague on both your houses
02:43 PM on 10/28/2012
I think your numbers are slightly off, but your point is well taken.  You are right.
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terramartom
Grapes of Wrath!
08:25 AM on 10/28/2012
Romney loses.
Good.
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mzrecycle
a very subtle micro-bio
04:01 PM on 10/28/2012
I've been keeping track of some of these betting sites and these results are about what they've been when I started checking them weeks ago.
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GMGinMA
Cogito ergo sum
07:49 AM on 10/28/2012
As long as the odds makers stay under-the-radar I think it's a good bet but the observer effect is more likely to push Obama voters away from the polls if it sounds like he's a shoe-in. If gamblers odds become too big a story they face corruption of their data.
lightnessandjoy
Is micro-bio a new disease?
11:45 AM on 10/28/2012
Sorry, the bettors have factored that in.
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mzrecycle
a very subtle micro-bio
04:03 PM on 10/28/2012
After the election of Bush over Gore, I don't think any Democrat is going to be complacent. Don't think there is any chance of data corruption.
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rob burton
"I will write peace on your wings and you will fly
07:44 AM on 10/28/2012
..when the president wins, like to know which right-wing talk host loon goes totally off the deep end and takes himself out,..oh wait, none of them have the cajones to do anything like that anyway..