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We Love Camp! Can We Love School?

Posted: 06/26/2012 5:56 pm

My daughter starts her countdown for her overnight camp the very day the previous year ends. It's a year-long calendar with daily markings on her bedroom wall. She likes school well enough, but she snorts at the notion of looking forward to the fall in the same way. I've asked her to explain, but she rolls her eyes and looks at me as if I've asked why birthday parties are more fun than dentist appointments. "Camp is FUN. School is, well, school."

Why is camp so much more popular? Why can't school be more like camp? My daughter spends just three weeks at her camp, and nine months in school. I want her to wake up thrilled about school, too.

At the risk of sounding like an idiot in public, what's the difference? At camp, she has to get up early in the morning, and at night camp tells her when she has to go to bed. She's told when to eat and when to rest. She's given some limited choice among activities, and given measured time periods to do them. She is generally supervised all day.

Socially, she is assigned to a group of girls her same age, just as in school. In the few minutes I had to meet them, her camp-mates seemed reasonably comparable to her school-mates: nice kids in both places, with healthy doses of eccentricity all around. The potential for feeling included or excluded seems available in both settings.

My daughter will argue that camp activities are more fun, and while I accept the point, I'm not willing to concede that school can't be fun, too. I know for a fact that sometimes she does have fun at school. And sometimes, perhaps rarely, she does things at camp that wouldn't be fun anywhere else: setting and clearing the table, cleaning and sweeping the tent, even making her bed. And just to generalize a bit, I know of popular camps that are academic in nature, full of school-like content: writing camp, space camp, computer camp. As a teen I attended a debate camp.

So why can't my daughter (and other kids) love school just as they love camp? I have come up with two primary reasons, but I'll be interested in readers' comments and speculations.

First and foremost, camp activities are largely non-judged and unevaluated. My daughter's camp employs a "challenge by choice" approach. It recognizes achievement through a system that allows kids to strive for badges or honors in a chosen skill. Her camp does not establish a "permanent record" of her participation that will be used in future camp or school admissions and employment applications. Camp is strictly for fun and growth.

The idea that evaluation is the heart of the problem is supported by the reality that many students (here I shift my focus to my high-school age son) find extracurricular activities and sports the most compelling part of their school experience. My son and his friends love the range of athletics that their rather ordinary public school provides. They enjoy student council, theater, and every other excuse for hanging out together at school. My son frequently stays at school for his activities and to cheer for his friends' teams until 9:00 at night. The enthusiasm and passion his buddies have for these elective, non-graded school activities matches how my daughter and her friends feel about camp.

The second major difference between camp and school is that camp is something kids "get to do," while school is something kids "have to do." Some kids may be forced to go to camp by their parents, but I'm referring to the legal requirement in our culture. Each of my children accept it as a fact of life that they "have to go" to a school (even though I constantly tell them they can start homeschooling anytime), and feel satisfied when their school days are on the better side of tolerable. On the other hand, my daughter knows that going to camp is a family decision based on a range of factors, and she hopes that our schedules and priorities will mean that she "gets to go" to camp for the maximum amount of time possible.

This idea of "getting to" rather than "having to" applies to more than just what school one attends. It also applies to the schoolwork itself. Even when my daughter has seemingly fun school projects to do, I see her enthusiasm diminish when she tells me what she "has to do" for requirements and deadlines.

These observations leave me pessimistic about helping kids love school as much as they love camp. Schools are expected to evaluate children and report the result to parents, future educators, and even the public. Schools are compulsory, and there are many current proposals for longer school days and longer school years. Schools are supposed to give assignments that kids "have to do," with homework extending these assignments beyond the regular school day.

I've reached a rather depressing conclusion: my daughter sees school as a place she "has to go" to receive assignments she "has to do" that will be evaluated to determine her future prospects. No wonder she rolls her eyes at me when I compare school to camp.

Yet, I remain an optimist. I have helped create a learning environment at North Star where teens "get to go," and where they find activities they "get to do" without formal evaluation. I see North Star teens sad to see the academic year end in June, and I know they are already counting the days until the program re-opens in September.

This past year I have spoken with over two dozen visionary teachers and other adults who want to create their own schools or programs. I often begin by saying, "Imagine year-round camp! The more you can build a model like a camp and less like a school, the more you will be headed in the right direction."

My daughter has informed me that she plans to attend camp for as many years as possible, and then become a counselor for life. I'm fully supportive. I simply hope that whatever choice she makes for high school after graduating from her K-8 school next spring will inspire a similar passion and excitement that she has for camp.

 
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My daughter starts her countdown for her overnight camp the very day the previous year ends. It's a year-long calendar with daily markings on her bedroom wall. She likes school well enough, but she ...
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04:20 PM on 06/27/2012
Why have school at all? Perhaps we can give every child a diploma as they turn 18 and send them off to college,,,,and then let the college do the same in another four years. This studying, testing, homework etc is unsexy and unglamorous stuff which is best left up to the nerdy folks from Asia.
01:05 PM on 06/27/2012
I totally get your daughter's point of view. I went to camp as a kid, I worked as a counselor at the best camp ever - Friendly Pines Camp in Prescott, Arizona. I loved life at camp more than anything. Arizona State University has a major in "camp". Actually I think it's called recreational studies. But it's camp! How to work at one, be a director, planning fun stuff... What a great major! Wish I had chosen that in my younger days. I was a music major. Jazz sax performance. It wasn't all bad. But it wasn't camp. For the past two weeks two of my children are enjoying their stay up at Friendly Pines. I can't wait to hear all of the fun stories of their camp antics and have them show me their new skills and the confidence they've gained. I can enjoy what they've loved for the past two weeks and for just a brief moment feel that I too, get to be at camp.
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04:21 PM on 06/27/2012
Major in Camp! Wait until I tell my children! Hooray! Do your children go to school?
09:17 AM on 06/27/2012
It's funny for me to hear you tell your kids they can homeschool anytime they want to. I tell my unschool kids they can go to school anytime they decide they want to. Discussing photosynthesis and its importance to plant and animal life while trampolining or learning math by counting leaves on trees or rocks on daily hiking paths is just more fun than blackboard silenced, hard chair learning. I agree that if the institutional public school model were more like camp (bringing in nature and our connectivity to it, allowing children to move their bodies as they are meant to, permitting some individual choices by the students) more children would enjoy school. But, that is not what systems do. They talk at kids, force them to be still and regurgitate. Not only is this the opposite of educating, it is really unhealthy for their bodies and their minds.
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04:20 PM on 06/27/2012
Hi,

I think we should have our kids get together to discuss coping with their parents. We'll get a good chuckle out of your post at home.

I think an individual teacher can do some of the things you propose, but in a very limited or constrained way. That's how I felt as a teacher, which is why I chose to leave the system to create the alternative in which I wanted to work.
09:46 AM on 06/28/2012
It is true that a great teacher/great teachers can have a huge impact and be the lifeline for kids that are trapped in school. I can imagine how stifling it would be to want to do wonderful things with the students and be reserved to set curriculums and beurocracies designed for the institutions, rather than what is best for kids and human beings. I genuinely applaud that you sought out and created a unique solution. I always marvel at John Gatto's being award winning teacher, teacher of the year, etc. etc. and then he gets ignored by so many when he tells it like it is about schools and systems. North Star looks fantastic!
07:47 AM on 07/02/2012
At 23 I taught for just one year in inner city Philadelphia. The expectations were so high, and the abilities of the students so varied,it was quite near impssible to get everythin, or anything, done. I remember at the time I was teaching reading 3 times per day to 3 groups, 90 minutes each. They wanted 8 different sections taught to each group of 33 students each day. I was lucky if I got through 4, because it was just too much too expect, and kids need attention, they have questins, you go off on tangents in a teachable moment. The expectations didn't allow dor the variety of learners (e.g. musical, interpersonal). It's 8 years later and a few of my kds found me on Facebook and told me they had loved my class. I still don't know how, becase I felt like I was doing them a disservive everyday, but they knew at least that I cared.
08:51 AM on 06/27/2012
Camp is active. It's about *doing* things. School is mainly passive. It's about having things done to you.

Camp is interesting. The directors and counselors know they're playing to an audience and have to keep them coming back for more. School has no incentive not to be boring.

Camp is involving. It sets projects that can be completed quickly and offer a sense of accomplishment. It teaches you a skill and immediately lets you apply that skill. School does little or none of that. It encourages kids to tune out and think of what they're being taught as useless.

Camp encourages kids to interact with each other, whether cooperatively, competitively, or just getting to know one another. School deliberately discourages peer-to-peer interactions in favor of top-down, teacher-to-student interactions.

And because it is active, interesting, involving, and sociable, camp is *fun.* School is not only *not fun,* but it attempts to make up for that by employing anxiety and punishment-reward mechanisms as motivations. School is rigorously anti-fun, because fun would only get in the way.
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Kenneth Danford
04:18 PM on 06/27/2012
Thank you for your list. I think I agree that it is accurate for school in general. But these problems don't have to exist. Schools can be active, interesting, involving, interactive, both in theory and in some real cases. A single teacher or a strong principal might be able to make significant progress along the lines you propose.

I think you could create a more lively school or classroom that addresses your topics. But it would still have to live within the constraints I mentioned. Either way, your list makes school seem dull compared to the camp where I dropped of my daughter today.
10:43 PM on 06/27/2012
I don't know what schools you are referring to, but both the public school where I teach and the one my children attend do all of the things you say camp does: active learning, skills taught & applied meaningfully, kids interacting cooperatively & competitively all happen every day.
"Fun would only get in the way"- of what, exactly? You are making very broad statements and I don't agree that they are true of all schools, as you seem to imply.
Camp is outdoors, usually involves swimming & water play, is often away from home and has that fun "sleepover" element. And anything that you do 3 weeks out of the year will be more exciting than something you do for 10 months of the year.
12:36 AM on 06/27/2012
"My daughter spends just three weeks at her camp, and nine months in school. "

You answered the question indirectly. If school was three weeks and camp was nine months I speculate your daughter would like school very much. There is a novelty to what teens like and a high level of control.
12:34 AM on 06/27/2012
"My daughter spends just three weeks at her camp, and nine months in school. "
In your words, this is why camp is more fun that school. Camp is a novelty and school is a place of doing things when you don't want to. I guarantee that if school was three weeks and camp was nine months your daughter would probably like school quite a bit.
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04:12 PM on 06/27/2012
Thank you for making this point. I largely agree, and in fact in an earlier draft of this post, I had "duration" as a third major difference between camp and school. The good news is that schools can (and some do) organize themselves to have courses last only a quarter or a semester, with more frequent changes of groups. While writing, I decided that these changes might make kid hate school less, or endure it easier, rather than actually love it.

I also agree that nine months away at camp would be too much. I'm not sure what my daughter's limit would be. I hope we've all had some experiences that we loved and then were ready to have end. Some of my family members tease me that I'm never tired of North Star!
08:03 PM on 06/26/2012
Thank you, Ken, for articulating some of the ideas that I haven't found the words for yet. My observations of the high school where I worked align with yours; the only times I saw enthusiasm in my students, it was for the non-compulsory components of their days.