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Dot-com Deadbeats

Posted: 08/24/11 07:34 PM ET

Collecting state sales tax from online retailers would help with the national budget. There is currently pending legislation in Congress to do just that and several individual states, for example New York and California, are pressing forward to do the same. Texas tried but got bullied to back down by presidential candidate Rick Perry teaming up with the largest online retailer in the country.

The issue can be broken down into a few pieces to be more easily understood. Perhaps call it "Main Street Trickle Down Economics" as opposed to "Wall Street Trickle Down Economics." These billions of dollars that the states should receive could relieve the federal government from passing down that amount of our federal tax dollars. Then keep those billions which soon would turn into trillions to pay down the national debt. When the country is on better footing, then it would be an appropriate time to talk about providing more state support.

Yes you are right in thinking that you and I are the real ones paying these state sales taxes which range from about 4 to 9%. Yes, you and I always have paid the sales tax on what we buy in a store. It is a populist approach and we have accepted it. But that's largely not the case when we buy online.

Of most importance is that online retailers are benefiting from that 4 to 9% price advantage over competitors at real stores who have to charge sales tax. Don't be fooled by the critics who say online retailers need this advantage, particularly start-ups, in order to stay in business. The mom and pop yogurt shop around the corner, the bookstore nearby, and the family owned women's clothing store at a nearby mall also need to stay in business and they still have to collect sales taxes. Online versus in-store is competitive but let's be fair.

The notion that this is a new tax on consumers is nonsense. Its not a new tax, its cracking down on tax evasion. Try to buy something at your local stores and refuse to pay the sales tax. You won't get your item. In fact, the retailer would be heavily fined and could even lose their business license if they let you slide on the tax. Its the law to collect sales tax.

There are stores and customers who play the system and evade the sales tax mostly on large purchases when the tax becomes sizable. Those retailers and consumers who evade paying the lawfully required sales tax are most often in high-end luxury retail and the customer is rich and owns several homes. One trick to exploiting a state's sales tax loophole is to ship out of state to one of the customer's other homes their designer clothing or diamond tennis bracelet. Sometimes the retailer and customer secretly agree to ship an empty box to that other home to cover their backsides if there's an audit, and then the customer just walks out with the merchandise.

The myopic belief that no sales tax is good for consumers, is in a word, dangerous. The sales tax you and I pay at the register is something we rarely think about or question because we all know that sales tax pays for our water sources, streets, schools, libraries, disability insurance for those unable to work, and a whole host of other public services. We also know there is fraud and inefficiency at this level. That is acknowledged and it needs to be fixed.

Your local governments, also beneficiaries of the collected sales tax, provide life saving services. If you want someone to pick up the phone and respond urgently when you call for an ambulance, you have to fund that service. I can imagine it is also very important to you and your family to have your police department catch criminals. Then you have to fund that service.

But the way it is now online retailers take your money and your neighbors' money but take no responsibility for contributing to that ambulance showing up when you or Bob and Rita next-door call 911. Or for your kids to have decent public schools. Or for your trash to get picked up every week.

Instead they're leaving their responsibility to others like your local stores and stores throughout your state. They're benefiting by pocketing, not reinvesting in where you live. The giant online retailers are particularly egregious with their greed. They not only dodge the responsibility and ride the good times for them while closing their eyes to this injustice, they're cutting the throats of stores we count on to collect our state sales taxes that make sure someone picks up when you dial 911.

Online retailers, and in particular the corporations with billions in revenues, that don't feel ashamed by their greed in claiming that it would be bad for their business to collect sales tax are essentially defunding your neighborhood fire station. Apparently they don't care if your house burns down as long as you give them a new delivery address.

 

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11:09 PM on 08/24/2011
Sales tax and internet sales have very little to do with the demise of mom and pop shops. The big box stores, especially walmart, lowes, & home depot, along with large supermarkets and large retail electronics outlets have done them in. Like most Americans, I shop where it is the cheapest. Even with sales tax included you can usually get an item on line cheaper than anywhere else. You also throw out numbers like billions, maybe trillions, lost. A few million nationwide, maybe. Personally, I like the hands off approach of the government to anything involving the internet. I am reluctant to have the government control any aspect of it. Let's face it, there is no organization in the world as inefficient as our government.
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Kenneth Kales
03:22 PM on 08/26/2011
Thank you for your comment. Here's a link to a Huffington Post article with the California legislature saying the state is losing at least $200 million annually. Supporters, of which I am one, say "stop cheating California"

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/08/15/amazon-boycott-taxes-_n_927667.html
08:31 PM on 08/24/2011
If you buy something when you are visiting Mexico, should the store collect taxes for your state of residence? If you mail your purchase back to your home; then do you pay sales tax? If you arrange to have the store mail your purchase home, do you pay sales tax? If you make the purchase and shipping arrangements on the Internet from your Mexico hotel room, do you pay sales tax? What is the difference if you make those arrangements while you are in your state as opposed to being out of it? Sales taxes should fund government services for the store where the sale takes place - the store needs fire, police, etc government protection and services. You pay for your local services with local taxes based on local activity.
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03:37 PM on 08/26/2011
Thank you for your comment. This is about fairness and the "train has already left the station." More sates are following NY's lead. Here's a link with an overview of how we're getting ripped off, whose doing it and what's being done to stop it

http://www.newrules.org/retail/rules/internet-sales-tax-fairness