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The uncomfortable truth is that "cheap" energy is worth some number of human lives. And the absence of "cheap energy" costs human lives. Of course it is wrong (and prosecutable) to knowingly put a workers life at risk without his knowledge.
very glad to see this post. it continues to stun me, the way in which big coal gets it's way. Watch out now for appeals and see that damage being reduced from 1.6 million to a pittance. (actually 1.6 million is a pittance in any event.) here's to Al Gore's vision for a new america where we no longer rely on coal to provide up to 50% of our electricity. Coal is good for no man. alternate energies, alternate job opportunities and respect for the men and women of coal country. that is the way forward here. if only their lives and their situations garnered the same amount of public attention as, say, Angelina Jolie's babies.
This blog is right on. I get coal generated electricity. I'm aware a coal miner is sure to get black lung from working in a coal mine. The price of a man gasping tor breath is what the miner pays to benefit me. That cost doesn't appear on my electric bill. That is an unreasonable price.
Perhaps if we gave up the myth of "clean coal," we wouldn't have to face the families of miners (and in this case, rescuers) who died in the mines. Thankfully, mine safety is better than it used to be, but it's still pretty bad.
This whole post has nothing to do with whether coal itself is a beneficial source of energy or not. Everthing in life has a risk and an opportunity cost. Extracting coal is no different.
What you demonstrated here is that government regulation of anything is not foolproof.
Maybe what you should post next is an actual cost benefit analysis of using coal for energy.
No, you have it backwards. It's not coals benefits that are in question. Its is rather the mindset that allows companies to continue to put their workers safety at odds with the companies profit. This is Greed 101. It seems reminiscent to the unsafe factories existing at the turn of the previous century. The only way to change this practice is to expose it like its predecessors.
I agree that the quest for profits sometimes motivates individuals (or corporations) to take on risks to employees, equipment and reputation that in hindsight turned out to be bad judgment. That appears to be what happened in this case.
What I do not agree with is your inferrance that the management of this particular company callously did not care if employees died or not. That flys in the face of you own logic that their greed took presidence over life and limb. 9 people died here. Is there any mining of this sight going on today?...no. So is the company deriving any profit form this operation?...no. Is the comapny being sued by the families of the dead workers?...yes. Is any of the activities of the company as a result of this accident creating profit for this "greedy" company?...no.
My point is that if this company was actually as greedy as you say then why would they be so foolish as to purposly take bad risks that would put life and equipment and other company assets in danger of being lost if greed was the overriding concern?
coal is dirty business, from one end to the other.
replace it with wind and solar ASAP.
Then ban it.
Even the most ardent "clean energy" nutcases know that solar and wind can't come anywhere close to providing the current U.S. energy needs, let alone future needs.
Wrong: wind is already cheaper to install the coal, and the fuel is free.
There is plenty of offshore and rural area.
Dirty fuel is the past.
Mining safety will only ever be favorable to the workers in the mines when those workers are responsible for approving and enforcing mine safety rules.
This would involve the mine workers at every level of every mine's development, and ensure a proper level of control over what happens about safety and the economy in their communities for the long term.
This disaster will put a crimp in development of these deep coal resources, possibly until greater technology and automation.
What will not happen from these tragic stories is that coal will stay in the ground.
Coal will not stay in the ground.
We need to put the mine workers in charge of mine safety.
And we need to re-illegalize mountaintop blast mining of the type that is destroying vast natural resources and poisoning our mountain communities.
But coal will not stay in the ground.
Unless we nationalize it. And buy out the owners of the coal leases and properties.
Which, we could never afford.
Besides coal mine safety and the elimination of mountaintop mining, we need the development of technologies to be able to use the coal without emitting the carbon.
Whether CCS or bio-chemical extraction, or whatever, we need to have the technology available in the 2020-2025 time frame in order to meet carbon balance targets while still using coal.
If we do not solve the problem, the rest of the world will continue to use coal, and the planet will suffer for it.
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Posted July 26, 2008 | 10:07 PM (EST)