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Kerry Trueman

Kerry Trueman

Posted: October 25, 2010 03:48 PM

(With a click of her mouse, EatingLiberally's Kerry Trueman, aka kat, corners Dr. Marion Nestle, NYU professor of nutrition and author of Feed Your Pet Right, Pet Food Politics, What to Eat, Food Politics, and Safe Food):


KT: NPR's Morning Edition ran a story today about "stealth" strategies that some schools and researchers are employing to get kids to eat healthier foods--for example, by sneaking pureed vegetables into a line of cafeteria foods being marketed under the name "Hidden Healthies."

But doesn't this approach reinforce the perception kids have that vegetables taste lousy? David Just, co-director of the Cornell Center for Behavioral Economics in Child Nutrition, pointed out that "Taste is a suggestion more than anything else. If you think something is going to taste really good -- if you've been told by others that it tastes good -- you build that into your head when you eat it."

A researcher who's experimenting with enhanced cafeteria lighting to make healthy foods appear more appealing to kids told NPR, "We got to figure out some things so that the last thing in the world they know is that we're trying to get them to eat well."

We know that kids (and plenty of grown-ups!) turn up their noses at foods that are presented to them as healthy. Kids have also come to expect that their preferences should be catered to, which is why carrot and apple growers have begun packaging their products to resemble snack foods like potato chips.

In short, veggies have a serious pr problem. Do these strategies strike you as a good solution?

Dr. Nestle: Oh no! Not stealth again. I thought we were done with that in 2007 when we had to live through the plagiarism fight between Jessica Seinfeld's Deceptively Delicious, and Missy Lapine's Sneaky Chef, both of them pushing stealth strategies.

I remember being given hamburgers as a kid and how betrayed and condescended to I felt when they turned out to contain ground spinach--a vegetable I detested at the time but now think is terrific, especially when young and tender. Kids' tastes do change, and should be encouraged in an honest way.

That is why I am so intrigued by the approach shown in the New York Times "Lunch Line Redesign" op-ed last week. Check out the way that Brian Wansink and his colleagues suggest redesigning lunch lines. These do nothing draconian or deceitful. Instead, they gently nudge kids to made healthier choices on their own.

How? By doing such things as putting salads near the cash register, using bowls instead of trays, and describing the foods more attractively. My favorite of these strategies is simply to ask the kids whether they would like a salad. All of these increase kids' selection of healthier food choices.

But will the kids eat the foods? Of course they will. From my observations of school meals, the single most important indicator of whether the kids are eating healthfully is if the school food service people know their names and talk to them about what they are choosing. It helps a lot if the food tastes good, but kids respond to adults who care about what they eat.

When I hear parents say that the kids won't eat anything healthy, I suspect that I'm talking to someone who isn't willing to take adult responsibility for what kids eat and finds it easier to be stealthy than direct. Kids need to trust the adults in their lives and food should be used to instill trust, not destroy it.

 

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DavidMG
The Golden Rule rules
03:29 PM on 11/02/2010
My book, "The ABC's of Fruits & Vegetables and Beyond" is recommended by Jane Brody in the NY Times today. It does not hide anythnig, but teaches kid's to have a "healthy relationship" with these important foods. Perhaps that's why a number of educational programs throughout the US are using it.
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02:12 AM on 11/02/2010
Oh, and here's another tip for parents willing to go the extra mile:

I got an opportunity to go winter camping when I was a kid, we hiked all day, worked our butts off to set up camp and froze our butts off. The next morning when my friend's dad made oatmeal, which I thought I hated, it tasted like the best stuff in the world to me. I think I would have eaten almost anything at that point, so don't miss those opportunities. :)
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02:07 AM on 11/02/2010
I watch cooking/travel shows a lot--and the plain truth is that American kids are spoiled. Kids in "3rd world" (whatever that means) countries eat squid, snails, all sorts of vegetation, fruits and grains.

Turn off the TV, let them cook right alongside you, get them to grow vegetables with you.

I don't know how to solve the issues with public school lunches--except to home school or send them to an expensive private school. Not reasonable options for most.
07:10 PM on 11/01/2010
No one is going to be sneaking pureed spinach into meals at college or beyond, and the kids who ate everything "off the radar" will never learn to eat higher nutrition once they can get to fast food and 7-11 on their own. It's a set-up for failure is all.
12:22 AM on 10/31/2010
Ach. Every time I hear this conversation I cringe. Lighting? Sneaking pureed Veg into food made to resemble fast food? Trying to get one over on your kid? Really? Sneaky tricks and lying, this is how we are feeding our kids?

Let's just rent a banner and announce to our kids that we feel out of control over food.

My kid's 6 and he eats what I give him. I make his breakfast, pack his school lunch, and cook us both dinner everyday without a can, package or frozen box. Does he want to go to the Big M to get the toys? Sure. And then I tell him they wash their beef in ammonia and gave him a whiff of it one day. He doesn't ask to go back there anymore.

I am the parent and I teach him to say please and thank you, wash your hands and put down the seat, play nice, try your best, and feed your body good things. Why have we turned the last one into such a big deal? He's 6. No car, no money...Trust me, they'll eat what you put in front of them.
Just make sure 'sneaky' isn't on the menu.
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02:08 AM on 11/02/2010
I don't know why you got flagged, I guess you made someone feel guilty?
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DavidMG
The Golden Rule rules
07:41 PM on 10/29/2010
Parents and teachers interested in getting kids to develop a friendly attitude towards fruits and vegetables should take a look at new book called “The ABC’s of Fruits and Vegetables and Beyond.” Bought in quantity for class use. Suitable for kids of all ages as it is two books in one – children first learn their alphabet through produce poems and then go on to hundreds of related activities. It is coauthored by best-selling food writer David Goldbeck
11:26 AM on 10/29/2010
So well said. My kids are not the epitome of nutrition, but being a marketer, I pitch the healthy foods to them. I give them nutritional information on their terms (builds muscles, makes you less tired, etc.) and more importantly I tell them what the bad stuff does. Further, I feed them the least desirable food when their most hungry and add courses after. They still complain, but they don't wear me down. It takes a lot of work for us to counteract the fast food industry's poisonous marketing assaults, but that is our job. It's precisely why my partner and I started a blog to assist the effort. Thank you for sharing.
08:13 AM on 10/29/2010
We never forced our kids to eat vegetables - but they had to try them each time they were served - we always said if they didn't like them that they weren't in their "cooked carrot" or some other vegetable years yet - but that they should always try them because one day they might develop a taste for them - and it seems to have worked - each of my three children has gone through times when they hated certain foods but now as young adults they each like almost everything and are always willing to try new foods
03:43 AM on 10/29/2010
This whole idea of being "sneaky" really turns me off. I think what is important is to educate kids on why it's important to make more healthful food choices and where our food comes from. It is time to close that gap and reconnect with the food we eat. If we continue to sneakily feed them health food than they will never learn and if we do not teach children about the importance of more healthful food choices they will grow up to make poor food choices. If we teach them about the important of a healthful diet when they are young they are more likely to carry that through their entire life. They key is to make the things they "think" they don't like more appealing.

Cheers,
the better bites girl
http://thebetterbitesgirl.blogspot.com/
07:07 PM on 11/01/2010
I agree, and would go further and state that everyone has the right to know what they are eating...I think the sneak thing can only backfire, and is harmful. Also, without awareness, allergies could be an issue, or if someone got food poisoning, they might not even be aware of what did it, etc.

It's just wrong all around to me.
06:27 PM on 10/28/2010
well as a restaurant owner, chef, and sometimes bartender i can say without hesitation that free pouring i not only classy and requires more skill, it is measurable by testing until it becomes second nature. all environmental and fluid dynamic variables aside, if your 'cocktails' depend so heavily on precise measures of such small quantities of esoteric ingredients, you're not 'crafting' you're wasting everyone's time, mincing over elderberry syrups and such, pouring fewer drinks and creating higher margin pressures on your busy bar. good bartenders are sensitive to taste, smell, color, rhythm, like chefs, they just don't get the acclaim. if you want precision get a machine
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Ldcook
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12:48 PM on 10/28/2010
Why do these two ideas have to be mutually exclusive?

Shouldn't we be both educating about how to eat healthy, why to eat healthy, etc. AND be finding ways to get more healthy ingredients into food kids already eat?

I think this disagreement is silly, and that the two folks here should find common ground in their desire to improve kids health, and approach it as a two pronged attack on the state of food in the country.
12:36 PM on 10/28/2010
I think the main problem with the "sneaky" approach is that it doesn't really develop the palate to appreciate the textures and flavors of the healthy things. If a person isn't actively engaging in decision-making while in eating those things, how can they really be expected to learn to eat right? The best way to teach people to like veggies? Learn to prepare them properly! Get a Chinese cookbook--Chinese chefs do not overcook their vegetables, they leave them tender and build lots of flavors with them. A Chinese cookbook will also have lots of suggestions on sauces and presentation for variety. Also, engage kids in the preparation. Let them learn how to cook it and eat it. Emphasize that eating this way has the benefit of helping prevent heart disease, cancer, diabetes, and being overweight. Talk to them about the risks of eating fast foods. Empower them with information--you can even go online together and gather facts about healthy eating. Make cooking and eating together a weekly (or better yet, DAILY) family activity. Not only does this give them an appreciation for veggies, it allows them to learn a valuable life skill that will stay with them for the rest of their lives.
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organicconnect
12:12 PM on 10/28/2010
Only by actually communicating with kids will we be able to counteract the relentless marketing of pseudo-foods being pushed to them. It takes care and communication. http://organicconnectmag.com/wp/2010/09/the-problem-behind-childhood-obesity/
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StoryTime
Running on plenty/Oh j'cours toute seule ,)
04:34 PM on 10/28/2010
and by turning the tv off, if not getting rid of it!
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JScott
John Galt's last name is McGuffin-Smithee
11:46 AM on 10/30/2010
Yup I remember all those breakfast cereal ads as a kid and offering toys & stuff, I remember clearly one with a Mighty Mouse Tshirt (with a cape on it) and sadly disappointed when I couldn't fly-yup you grow up quick. Perhaps that is why I'm always the skeptic.
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sabelmouse
i love to tumble , ask me why .
11:43 AM on 10/28/2010
why is there such choice in the first place. seems to me it would make more sense to have one meal for ll with options for vegetarians and allergies rather than this huge buffet of crap and then hope they'll chooce the one healthy thing among that.
at home you don't get to choose from dozens of things.
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JScott
John Galt's last name is McGuffin-Smithee
11:48 AM on 10/30/2010
Yup that's what I remember-if dinner was ready it was one meal it was your choice to eat it or not.
Can believer there are so many parents now that prep separate meals for some-jeez BE A PARENT!
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RationalCaliGirl
Vasectomies prevent abortions...
02:22 AM on 11/04/2010
I agree. The only thing my mother would do was, depended on what we were eating, keep a portion without onions for my brother, or mince them very small so he couldn't see them. We had one meal either you ate it or went hungry. People these days give children too many choices. They are your children, not you bff's.
11:34 AM on 10/28/2010
What I fear being sneaky over something as basic as food teaches a child is that if transparency doesn't work, being manipulative is ok. This may work in some instances, but trust is an important foundation of parental authority, especially helpful when that child becomes a teen. Besides, tricking a child into eating *any* food isn't teaching him/her a thing--it's continuing the meme that veggies are so distasteful that they *need* to be hidden.

Then again, if the cafeteria salad consists of hard chunks of iceberg lettuce, pellet-like tomatoes and aging cucumber, all topped with an unidentifiable glop of oily, sweet salad dressing--well--I know I wouldn't eat it; how can we expect our kids to?