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Kevin Grandia

Kevin Grandia

Posted: July 27, 2009 06:47 PM

Video Debunking Climate Change Denier Removed by YouTube

What's Your Reaction:

So what do you do when someone posts a YouTube video saying you're a crock? One way is to complain and get it wiped clean off the 'inter-tubes.'

A video called "Climate Crock of the Week" about head-in-the-sand global warming denier Anthony Watts was posted last week on YouTube by Peter Sinclair who has been running the "Climate Crock" series for quite sometime now.

The video was making the blogosphere rounds, getting a lot of comments on YouTube and on a post I did over the weekend here on Huffington. And then "poof" this happened:

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Scrubbed.

The video was removed after Watts complained under YouTube's Copyright Infringement guidelines. This has become known as a DMCA Takedown -- with the DMCA being the U.S. copyright law used to criminalize anyone infringing and/or circumventing copyrighted works.

Before I posted Sinclair's YouTube video, as I normally do with any YouTube video I post, I vetted it from a DMCA point of view and, quite frankly, I don't know what part of the video Watts would have a problem with. There's nothing I saw in the video that appears to break any copyright as it relates to Watts. Now maybe he took issue with the short (credited) clip at the beginning from Will Ferrell's Anchorman movie ... but I think this is more about a video that thoroughly shreds Watts and his argument that the world is wrong about climate change and he is right.

So what is it, Watts? Instead of hiding behind an automated service that deletes any video on YouTube that someone claims infringes DMCA, why don't you email me (desmogblog [at] gmail [dot] com) and explain why you think Sinclair's video should not be viewed by the public.

 

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realpolitic
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09:39 AM on 08/03/2009
Richard2 says that the American Physics Society may change their year 2007 finding that man is responsible for warming. Not so...

"The APS has not reversed its position on climate change, which states:

"Emissions of greenhouse gases from human activities are changing the atmosphere in ways that affect the Earth's climate. Greenhouse gases include carbon dioxide."

"The evidence is incontrovertible: Global warming is occurring. If no mitigating actions are taken, significant disruptions in the Earth's physical and ecological systems, ...and human health are likely to occur. We must reduce emissions of greenhouse gases beginning now."

"This statement was reaffirmed on July 22, 2008 in response to a controversy prompted by the publication of an article by amateur climate skeptic Christopher Monckton. That article was published in the APS Newsletter, not a scientific journal, and is not peer reviewed science, nor is Monckton a scientist. The material Monckton presented has been thoroughly refuted by many working climatologists and the apparent embarrassment of the APS has prompted them to preface that article with a disclaimer:"

"The following article has not undergone any scientific peer review, since that is not normal procedure for newsletters. The APS reaffirms the following position on climate change adopted in 2007: "Emissions of greenhouse gases from human activities are changing the atmosphere in ways that affect the Earth's climate"."

http://www.ask.com/bar?q=american+physical+society+climate+change+statement&page=2&qsrc=0&ab=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.grist.org%2Farticle%2Fthe-american-physical-society-denies-the-so-called-consensus
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Richard2
06:14 PM on 08/03/2009
The APS may change their position. Fifty physicists have requested the change.
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07:23 AM on 08/04/2009
Richard, the whole issue is another phony one invented by deniers! The APS made its very strong statement confirming anthropogenic climate change on November 18, 2007. They just reaffirmed their position in regard to an error filled Lord Monckton letter on July 18, 2008. Don't you ever realize when you are being used as a useful dupe?
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Richard2
09:49 AM on 07/31/2009
Kevin,

Using the term "denier" to describe someone who happens to disagree with your point of view about one topic is extremely damaging to your credibility. You are trying to tie this person to those who deny the death camps of World War II.

If you think the Yankees are the best baseball team in the world, and I think the Redsocks are, it doesn't help your case if you call me a Yankee denier. It is simply childish.

Science is one of the great inventions of our civilization. Scientific subjects should be treated with respect. Every person who has an opinion about a scientific topic deserves the respect of others. Name calling simply weakens your position.
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realpolitic
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02:53 AM on 08/02/2009
Sorrowfully, Richard equates how one approaches a scientific discipline like climate change to being a fan of baseball. One can cheer for whatever team he likes. It is very American. Unfortunately, ordinary people like Richard and I do not have the expertise to claim that a whole scientific discipline is somehow false, unless we are egomaniacs. To do so is ridiculous when climate scientists put a probability of 90% that climate change is happening and it is the result of our burning greenhouse gases, particularly CO2, into the atmosphere.

As expressed in one study, "The scientific consensus is clearly expressed in the reports of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC)......IPCC is not alone in its conclusions. In recent years, all major scientific bodies in the United States whose members' expertise bears directly on the matter have issued similar statements. For example, the National Academy of Sciences report, Climate Change Science: An Analysis of Some Key Questions, begins: "Greenhouse gases are accumulating in Earth's atmosphere as a result of human activities, causing surface air temperatures and subsurface ocean temperatures to rise"

http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/full/306/5702/1686

I could pretend that physics is wrong and does not exist! It does not change the laws of physics. In fact, my opinion says much more about me and my faith in my own opinion than it does about physics. The deniers do not get this reality!
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Richard2
04:45 PM on 08/02/2009
"Consensus" is a concept that is found in the index for a political science class. Political Science is a "social science," not a hard science like physics or chemistry.

Real science books don't have the concept of "consensus" in their indexes.
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Richard2
06:11 PM on 08/02/2009
The major scientific organization for physicists in the United States, the APS, is currently considering a request to repeal a 2007 finding by that organization that supported the idea of human induced global warming. The request, by 50 prominent physicists, would replace the finding with an alternative finding that states that temperature trends have been normal the last two centuries and that temperatures remain within the range of natural temperature change in recent centuries.

Prominent physicists, such as Freeman Dyson, at Princeton, have clearly voiced their disagreements with the idea of Global Warming.

The request by 50 prominent physicists for this change is, by itself, solid evidence that there is no "consensus" regarding global warming among American physicists.

Whether or not the professional association repeals its current finding remains to be seen, but bears watching.
07:25 PM on 07/28/2009
http://climatesci.org/2009/07/21/biased-criticism-of-anthony-watts-for-his-report-is-the-us-surface-temperature-record-reliable/

There is a You Tube video by Peter Sinclar titled “Climate Denial Crock of the Week” which ridicules the important contribution of Anthony Watts in identifying poor siting issues with the US Historical Climate Network (see his report). The video is clearly a biased presentation of what Anthony has accomplished, even resorting to the absurd connection of climate to how the health issues of tobacco were reported. The video fails to recognize that the National Climate Data Center (NCDC) invited Anthony to present his work in Asheville, and recently, one of the NCDC scientists invited him to co-author a research paper with him.

I will report if NCDC refutes this personal attack against a well respected colleague who has provided a much needed analysis to the climate science community. Stay tuned also for at least two peer reviewed papers which are quantitatively analyzing, using Anthony’s data, the impact of the poor sitings of the HCN sites on the long term surface temperature trends and anomalies.
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realpolitic
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03:16 AM on 08/02/2009
Nooorm must protect his heroes like Watts, who is a meterologist and lacks the educational background to speak about climate change. Of course, lack of qualifications have never stopped attacks from the far right before.

"Nothing occupies global warming deniers more than trying to prove the U.S. temperature record — a tiny portion of the global temperature record — is not reliable. Now NOAA’s National Climatic Data Center has issued an excellent Q&A, “Is the U.S. Temperature Record Reliable?” that should settle that question for any objective observer."

"The NCDC paper proves we should all be delighted that deniers like Anthony Watts and Steve McIntyre spend so much time on this: It is clearly a fruitless effort that consumes time which they might otherwise spend spinning out more potent disinformation."

http://climateprogress.org/2009/07/07/noaa-ncdc-is-the-us-temperature-record-reliable-deniers-anthony-watts-surfacestationsorg/

Or see: New NSDIC Director Serreze explains the "death spiral" of Arctic ice, brushes off the "breathtaking ignorance" of blogs like WattsUpWithThat.

http://climateprogress.org/2009/06/05/nsidc-director-serreze-death-spiral-arctic-ice-wattsupwiththat/

http://climateprogress.org/2009/01/05/anthony-watts-up-with-that-anti-science-denier-website-weblog-awards/
05:55 PM on 07/28/2009
Anthony Watts sounds like a coward. He routinely distorts what others say and launches ad hominens against those who don't support his political agenda. The poor guy can't take having his political agenda exposed?
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Richard2
07:00 PM on 08/01/2009
Perhaps people should stop attacking Mr. Watts personally. He has opinions about scientific topics. It is better to argue the data than to throw stones at persons who disagree with you. Try tide station data, global temperature data, Arctic Sea Ice data, Antarctic Sea Ice Data, ocean temperature data, etc.

If you ask a hundred people about the weather, you might get a hundred opinions. Seems like it is reasonable to assume that if you ask a hundred people about climate change, you might also get a hundred opinions. Since when are scientists not supposed to ask sceptical questions?
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realpolitic
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03:19 AM on 08/02/2009
Richard does not understand that his personal opinion, which really could change almost daily, does not effect the validity of climate change science to any degree. His personal opinion about the science says much more about him, and his believe in reality as opposed to false narratives, as it does about any science.
03:46 PM on 07/28/2009
This is why the DMCA is a farce. Under the "safe harbor" provisions of the DMCA, YouTube is required to comply with all DMCA takedown requests. The accused copyright infringer may appeal, but is under penalty of perjury when doing so.

The accuser has no such problem. There is no penalty for someone issuing a false takedown request, which has led to the cynical use of it by anyone wanting to stop dissenting speech from coal companies to the Church of Scientology. Record companies issue blanket takedown requests and lawsuits for anything that has even the name of one of their artists (in one infamous case a professor was targetted for uploading a recording of his lecture named usher.mp3).

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Kevin Grandia
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11:59 AM on 07/28/2009
Funny. Where are all the HuffPo climate change trolls now?
12:53 PM on 07/28/2009
Not a "climate change troll"... But I am opposed to interfering with the free exchange of ideas - both through the abuse of copyright protection on YouTube(TM) and the House franking committee...

When speech is silenced, liberty is lost.
10:32 PM on 07/28/2009
They are probably still laughing at your use of the military photo to proclaim that the "nail has been put in the climate change coffin".

http://www.gi.alaska.edu/snowice/sea-lake-ice/Brw09/forecast/

"We would like to emphasize that the images released are scientifically extremely valuable. They both clearly demonstrate the year-to-year variability of ice conditions and document the progess of summer ice break-up in Barrow 2006 in unprecedented detail. However, unlike suggested by some, comparing summer ice conditions in July 2006 and July 2007 is not sufficient evidence to verify a trend."
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realpolitic
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03:28 AM on 08/02/2009
Is it so funny when deniers try to use science to dispel climate change, which is taken as a fact by climate scientists.