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Kids in Poverty Can Still Learn

Posted: 10/23/2012 2:47 pm

During slavery, under some of the worse conditions known to man, slaves taught their kids to read by candlelight under the threat of death. And those kids learned.

On the heels of the great depression, President Franklin D. Roosevelt's new deal invigorated educational opportunities for poor white kids in places like Appalachia. And those kids learned.

Following the Vietnam War, thousands of Vietnamese refugees came to our nation. The vast majority of those children came to America unable to speak English and often lived with several families under one roof. And those kids learned.

In California, folks like Cesar Chavez fought for better working conditions for Latino migrant workers. While those families struggled to make ends meet, many strived to put their children in schools that would meet their needs. And those kids learned.

Throughout the history of our country, the unifying promise of America has been the hope for a better life for one's children through education. Especially those children trapped in poverty. At every turn in our history, kids in poverty have demonstrated their ability to learn and succeed.

Today, as we struggle with what ails many of our schools, more and more emphasis is being placed on the linkage between poverty and education. It seems as though each week there is a new study trumpeting the difficulty of teaching low income children and; the fact that poverty needs to be taken into account when we delve into tissues pertaining to teacher effectiveness and the quality of a school's overall performance.

I get all that. And I do agree that there must be better coordination of services between schools and those entities that help families in poverty. Without question, Geoffrey Canada's Harlem Children Zone should be replicated all over America. Geoffrey understands the need to take a holistic, community wide approach to health care, poverty and education. From his innovative Baby College for expectant mothers to his successful charter school to his offering of adult centered services, Geoffrey fills a much needed gap for thousands of Harlem families.

But poverty cannot be used as an excuse for bad teaching or our failure to better educate children who live in poverty. Frankly, some of the growing articles and studies on this topic often times engage in excuse-making and justify the 'throwing up of the hands' as it relates to trying to teach kids in poverty. Isn't it curious that we are hearing more about poverty being a factor in a child's educational experience as we talk more and more about linking teacher evaluations to their students performance? I discussed this issue with a terrific school leader in St. Louis who bemoaned the fact that far too many people blatantly say to her things like "It's impossible to educate poor black kids," and "You need to change your school's demographic to have any real success." To me, this line of thinking is ridiculous. All kids can learn. But all kids cannot learn in the same way. It is incumbent upon us to meet these kids where they are and utilize the approach that best serves them, including offering more quality options for them. There are many teachers who have worked their magic with kids who come from the most challenged environments imaginable. From my vantage point, as opposed to using poverty as the easy reason why some kids in poverty can't learn, let's put an excellent teacher in the classroom of every low income child in America and see what happens. And once and for all, let's stop talking about poverty being a barrier to positive educational outcomes for our kids.

 
 
 

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During slavery, under some of the worse conditions known to man, slaves taught their kids to read by candlelight under the threat of death. And those kids learned. On the heels of the great depressio...
During slavery, under some of the worse conditions known to man, slaves taught their kids to read by candlelight under the threat of death. And those kids learned. On the heels of the great depressio...
 
 
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12:03 AM on 11/01/2012
If Geoffrey Canada believed that all children needed was an "experienced" teacher in the classroom to lift student learning than there would be no such thing as Harlem Children's Zone. He realized that it takes more than just one teacher in a classroom of many to make a difference in EVERY child's academic life. There is so much finger pointing happening these days and it seems to come from folks who are no longer in the classroom and/or have never been in the classroom and cannot even fully conceptualize the challenges that a teacher faces on a daily basis.
You are correct; kids in poverty can still learn, but it takes more than just a single individual to make that happen.
04:17 PM on 10/24/2012
Mr Kevin P. Chavous, you so right. But you are not as many other people dealing with the Class Issue. If everyone got the education they needed and wanted, this would lead to a turbulent and violence class war. The US of America is on the brink and have been so for years. Your foe never wants to confront educated populations and their demands.
10:14 AM on 10/24/2012
Education reform is needed, and yes every child can learn, but lets actually empower them and their communities by improving both the classroom with the necessary funds and qualified teachers (defined not by tests with notable problems, but in comprehensive evaluations) but also in the community and society, with healthcare, cheaper university education, and better opportunity and pay in the workforce (which means changing our economic system and vast inequality). is it any wonder that the people that are stating poverty is not a problem are the wealthy that benefit most from this inequality within the economic system?
10:14 AM on 10/24/2012
This is BS. No teacher believes that children living in poverty cant learn, they simply realize the fact that they are not provided the same opportunities at home, in the community, and in the classroom that allows them the same advantages of those not living in poverty. Teachers scream about poverty because it does not provide their children, their students with the same opportunity for success. Is success possible? of course! but it is far more difficult if you go to sleep hungry, come to class cold and without the necessary supplies or have a parent that never graduated HS. they scream about evaluations being aligned to test scores bc these test scores widely vary from yr. to yr. even amongst "effective" teachers and cannot and do not adequately measure student nor teacher performance, while also rewarding not teachers that engage with students in a variety of teaching methods but in teaching or cheating towards a test. They further scream about poverty when we take into account international tests bc those nations that perform so well on these tests have lower levels of poverty, often half or a quarter the percent of poverty amongst their children/students. they also like finland dont measure their teachers on these standardized tests, nor believe standardized tests should define a student's capabilities. Does Mr. Chavous believe students should be defined by these tests? if not why should teachers?
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12:31 AM on 10/24/2012
Once upon a time, not very long ago, a student's success or failure was incumbent on the student. This opinion piece, as nothing factual is cited, suggests that teachers are now responsible for the work ethic, behavior, and effort of the student and their family. All children can and do learn. What they choose to do or not is entirely up to them. The fractional small percentage of 'bad' teachers is no excuse for allowing the stressors these kids and families live and work in - raise the minimum wage to a living wage in whatever region they live in and take the most enormous impediment to their success.
That, however, would expose the fallacy of the 'bad' teacher and enlighten the masses to the reality of the selfish, narcissistic [primarily] men of privilege, and the millions of minions who dream of being just like them or 'near' them, those who earn 400+% more than the average worker and own more than 150,000,000 of us combined, to the fact that they pay no taxes and use our infrastructure to support their 'pet' projects as only ALEC can do - which is where this notion of blaming teachers comes from. Shame on this black man for promoting segregation and the dismantling of Brown v. Ed in the name of corporate profits and graft at the expense of our children, our democratic institutions, and our country.
11:47 PM on 10/23/2012
I have a five-year-old granddaughter who has Type I (insulin dependent) diabetes. In order for her to do well in school, she must have certain accommodations (trained person to inject the insulin when her mother can't be at school). If these accommodations are not made, little Gloria would miss a lot of school and would likely fall behind. So when we say she needs extra help, we are not citing "excuses," we are citing facts. It is a fact that she has the disease and another fact that she requires extra help.

When teachers mention the effects of poverty on children's learning, they are talking about the children with untreated chronic illnesses, the ones without glasses or hearing aides, the ones who come to school without breakfast, the ones who don't come to school at all. We are talking facts and not excuses, and we are asking for extra help for these children. Can the richest nation in the world provide glasses for the nearsighted, medication for the asthmatic, social workers for the neglected? This is what teachers want; they don't make excuses for their students. All children can learn and no one knows it better than the people who elect to be with them each day.
11:38 PM on 10/23/2012
I taught for 42 years in high poverty schools and never heard a single teacher say, "Poor kids can't learn." This myth was created by "reformers" who are trying to discredit the men and women who believe so strongly in children that they elect to be with them each day. They are our teachers.

If the author of this article is honest, he will admit that he read about teachers who say "Poor kids can't learn" but never heard a teacher say such a thing. And he never will.
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11:08 PM on 10/23/2012
Here's the thing that education reformers can never quite wrap their heads around- student motivation to learn is a huge factor. Every child can learn, but there are limits on how hard some students are willing to WORK to learn.
06:47 AM on 10/24/2012
...and what they're willing to work to learn. A student who can name every athlete in a professional sports league or recite every word to hundreds of songs can clearly learn... but if he gets everything wrong on his tests, he's choosing not to learn what he should.
09:08 PM on 10/23/2012
All schools like Geoffrey Canada's? Okay, are you willing to have a 215 million budget for every two schools, pay all the administrators (or CEO as Canada is) $400,000, burn out half the teaching staff every year, and have somewhere to send the underperforming kids you toss out (sometimes even an entire class)? This is how Canada works. Where are you going to get the money to do this and how does this benefit ALL children?
08:21 PM on 10/23/2012
"Isn't it curious that we are hearing more about poverty being a factor in a child's educational experience as we talk more and more about linking teacher evaluations to their students performance?"

No, it's not curious at all. Linking teacher evaluations to students' performance makes no sense for a number of reasons, but the fact that poverty is a major factor in children's educational success is certainly one of them. And when people like you couch your arguments in terms that imply shady dealings on the part of the teachers trying to help those needy students, you do damage not only to the teachers but to the students as well.

Obviously, all children can learn. But equally obviously, we're not likely to see the same degree of learning from groups of kids who don't have their basic needs met that we see in groups that do. Teachers need to provide opportunities for those kids so that they've got the best chance possible, and the ones who don't do that should lose their jobs. But they can't be held responsible for the lower success rate that results from factors beyond their control, and an "author and national school reform leader" who forgets that fact, or tries to hide it, should certainly lose his.
01:54 AM on 10/24/2012
Yes, all kids can learn and the nearsighted kid can learn even more with a pair of eyeglasses. Everyone should know this and everyone probably does. There is a different agenda when people bring up the myth that a "poor kid can't learn." You can be certain no teacher ever said that. Teachers are in the business of helping every student learn. That's what they do.
07:34 PM on 10/23/2012
All kids can learn. What hurts us as educators, is parents who don't care.
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06:54 PM on 10/23/2012
"Isn't it curious that we are hearing more about poverty being a factor in a child's educational experience as we talk more and more about linking teacher evaluations to their students performance?"

Nice ad hominem.
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06:48 PM on 10/23/2012
"But poverty cannot be used as an excuse for bad teaching or our failure to better educate children who live in poverty."

And bad teaching cannot be used as an excuse for students not learning.
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Robert Buttons
05:39 PM on 10/23/2012
Numerous failed approaches litter the educational landscape yet we still seek the magic trick that will make all kids learn equally. After six decades of war on poverty failures, one has to ask : was Charles Murray right?
06:48 AM on 10/24/2012
False dichotomy.
03:53 PM on 10/23/2012
Charter Pusher. New gig for pay-Chavous was a DC councilmember. Old Canada makes a half mil scamming poor kids. Save us from these profiteers.