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Why Not Embrace School Vouchers?

Posted: 04/11/2012 3:36 pm

The tall, attractive African-American mother from Baton Rouge, Louisiana was on a mission. Through a friend, she had heard about the New Orleans Scholarship program in which 2,000 low-income New Orleans children from failing schools are given scholarships to attend participating private schools. While New Orleans has the most robust charter school program in the nation, many kids are still trapped in schools that don't serve their needs. As a result, the New Orleans voucher program has given a lifeline to thousands of low-income children who would otherwise receive an inadequate education.

Over the past several weeks, that young mother has attended rallies and meetings sponsored by Louisiana Black Alliance for Educational Options (BAEO) because she wants a chance to gain access to the same type of scholarships being offered in New Orleans, so that her own 6-year-old son can attend a quality private school.

This week, Louisiana Governor Bobby Jindal will sign into law the bill he championed which does, in fact, expand the existing New Orleans scholarship program statewide. Since this measure gives low-income parents who have kids in low performing schools across the state access to these scholarships, ultimately hundreds of thousands of kids may benefit. Many working class parents, like the young Baton Rouge mother, are ecstatic to the point of tears about this bill's passage.

Others, however, are outraged, claiming that a statewide voucher program will lead to the demise of public education in Louisiana and the system will suffer irreparably as a result.

No education reform measure evokes as much rabid and intense opposition as does private school choice.

It's surprising that school vouchers are as volatile a public policy issue in this country as abortion rights, gay marriage and the death penalty. Teachers unions and school administrators view vouchers as the biggest threat to public education -- something to be viciously fought at all costs. But even some respected education reformers are hesitant to embrace school vouchers, seeing this issue as impractical and not worthy of the political capital it inevitably grabs.

And yet, as we draw lines in the sand about how far we go in embracing these programs, 7,000 children a day, over a million a year, are dropping out of school; while countless more are attending schools in which virtually no one is learning.

In response, we rehash three to five year old school district reform plans dujour, continue to debate about systemic reform and the best plan needed to implement them.

Through it all, still far too many of our kids aren't learning and the education achievement gap in America continues to grow. All which begs the question: Is public school system preservation really more important than properly educating as many children possible?

What about formulating a new standard in deciding education policy? One based upon whether children will learn as a result of the proposal. And in the meantime, as we decide on larger school district reform measures, why not offer as many quality options as possible to those kids who can't wait for systemic reform to take hold? Options like charter schools, home schooling, digital learning, magnet schools, specialty schools and yes, even school vouchers.

That young Baton Rouge mother isn't supporting school vouchers in Louisiana because of some esoteric education policy thrust. Nor has she been volunteering her time speaking to legislators on this issue because of a particular political bent. Her actions are totally motivated by doing what is best for her son and his future success. The least we can do is meet her halfway.

 
 
 

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03:20 PM on 05/16/2012
It is hard to take the opposition to school choice as being legitimate. They claim that it takes money out of public schools. Which is true, but it also takes students. So if they have 5% fewer students shouldn't they be able to make do with 5% less money? Parents should be able to choose the right school for their kids. Being able to do that would create competition in the form of new schools. If someone could do a better job they would be able to attract students and money.

For instance in Washington DC spending per student on K-12 public school education is over $24,000 per student. This when those schools are some of the worst performing in the nation. Think about the numbers on that. For that price you could run an 8 student classroom for $200k. How much would it cost you to pick them all up in your car, buy their materials, etc...? Where is all the money going that you could be more efficient on a small scale than the schools are on a large one? I could think of many reasons that would be a benefit of doing it on such a small scale though certainly it wouldn't HAVE to be that way. Opening education up to competition would have almost endless possibilities.
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12:37 PM on 05/16/2012
Why not embrace a quality education instead of making students in political pinballs? Passing grades in rigorously graded algebra, grammar, science, and an elective (none of this grading on a curve) should be pre-requisites for getting a drivers license and avoiding 9 pm curfew - all the way up to age 35 if need be.

Kids don't like it? That's why there's a French Foreign Legion.
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Bill Jones123
01:55 PM on 04/14/2012
The basic assumption of vouchers is that a private education is a public good. It is not.

Those who want a private education are free to use their OWN money to do that.

I am under no obligation to SURRENDER MY MONEY to that cause.

The logic of the voucher movement is strained from the very beginning: Public money will be used to further the PRIVATE CONSUMPTION of a consumer good.

That is an unprecedented violation of property rights.

You cannot TAKE my money to pay for your PRIVATE education.

The better way is to allow poor families to take their portion of tax payments and then ask for tax deductible contributions from the wealthy.

The voucher system right now penalizes the middle class taxpaying families in a brutal way.
10:21 AM on 04/15/2012
I wonder how many people think of all the "other" reasons behind public schools. 1) Prevent child labor abuses. 2) Keep packs of kids off the streets. 3) Integrate ethnicities, backgrounds. 4) Teach things some parents won't (sex ed) or can't. 5) Gradually introduce students to authority figures in an environment where the stakes are lower than dealing with police. 6) Task students with "multiple bosses." There are more. I'm not saying public schools succeed at all of them, and private schools could fulfill many of them but we'd lose oversight. That's never a good thing.

To me, the biggest thing a school can do is protect some kids from their parents' predjudices and shortcomings. Some parents are still in the Dark Ages. I'm amazed at how little my kids understand of checking accounts, credit cards, etc. But I'm sure some parents perpetuate closet racism/misogyny etc. at home as well. It's critical we bring the child into the modern world.

What if everything changes to private schools? Curriculum is up for grabs. They'll learn "Intelligent Design" with tax money, for instance. And agendas? If I pushed a personal political opinion in my class I'd catch hell---and rightly so, because my position isn't a pulpit---but private schools can do whatever they want. Rather than "Here is the info and let's make informed decisions" maybe at private school it's simply head-in-the-sand: God says abortion's wrong, birth control is wrong, no discussion, just don't do it!
12:50 PM on 04/21/2012
Im a 17 year old student who was in a public school last year. 2) First of all they are tons of roving kids, just yesterday thousands of kids from my school were roaming around smoking pot and doing hard drugs. In a PRIVATE SCHOOL those children ditching class to do drugs would be expelled immediately, even ditching class would be a suspension. 1) Prevent child labor abuses? Child labor is illegal, the public school is doing anything that a private school isn't. 3) Forcing everyone together only causes segration. At my school, the latino spanish speakers hang out together, the pacific islanders hang out together, the middle class white kids hang out together. THE PURPOSE OF SCHOOL IS NOT INTEGRATING ETHNICITIES. 4) IT is mandatory for ALL schools to teach sex ed to their students. 5) What exactly are parents? The authority is much better in private schools. Here in private schools, you burn down a 8th grade bathroom with a lighter and you get suspended for 6 months. In private school you would be OUT thats why none of the private school kids do stupid things like that.
12:51 PM on 04/21/2012
6) Task students with multiple bosses? MY private school was harder in 6th grade then my public school was in 10th. In public school I skipped my last period for 2 months straight. What happened? My teacher didn't even mark me absent and I came back suprised to be the best student in the class since I had a 100%. This is the same teacher who would pack his backs 40min into the 55 min class and we would stand around doing nothing for 10 mins. This is the same class were somehow we finished all the coursework in the first 3 months and were able to watch tv for the rest of the year.

Public school is a joke.
12:37 PM on 04/21/2012
How much money are you paying to public school system exactly?. Unless your rich your paying about 0-5000 dollars every year. YOU couldn't even pay for the public eductation of one child with that money. The rest of the money all comes from income taxes and sales taxes.

"The logic of the voucher movement is strained from the very beginning: Public money will be used to further the PRIVATE CONSUMPTION of a consumer good."

Well then this is the least of your worries, alas Welfare, Social Security, Streets, Public Clinics.
The current system is full of "money stealing" ...
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Bill Jones123
01:51 PM on 04/14/2012
SImple really.

Why should I give you MY money to educate your child at a school I do not like. I am using your logic against you. Why is it your right to ask for my money to pay for your child's education.

The solution is simple: It is the OPT OUT provision.

1. OPTING OUT is the default position.
2. Those who leave get back their tax receipts. No more and no less.
3. Those who choose to opt in keep every last penny of their tax contributions at the school of their choice.

Now THAT IS REAL CHOICE.

But you do not like it. The reason you do not is that you consider income redistribution to be a civil right. I do not .
10:10 AM on 04/14/2012
At my first (public school) teaching job, a co-worker's wife (private school) was released, despite 20+ years of excellence (and students who sang her praises). Why? Parents were pressuring the principal for a winning football team. "This new guy can't teach his way out of a paper bag, but he's in your subject and he's a good coach," a principal privately admitted. "Can't afford you both." Due process, checks and balances, and all that goes out the window if we privatize.

If I ran a school for profit (evil grin), I'd auction off the cafeteria service (McDonald's?)---kids would love it. Put vending machines everywhere, too. Give high grades, deservedly or not, so parents think kids are getting an education (proposals I've seen would exempt private schools from the very tests that are used to flog us---the sad truth can wait till SAT time, or maybe when they're remediating in college). Offer Mickey Mouse classes---stay away from challenges. Pamper the kids, because ultimately they decide where they want to go to school and parents go along with it. Make it a glorified day care center...huge class sizes and we don't need fancy, expensive, "certified/licensed" teachers in a *private* school.

Some parents would catch on but by then, sorry, we already spent the voucher. Maybe the government can help you pay for a new school.
12:58 PM on 04/21/2012
You see when you have a choice of whether or not to go to a school. The school has to meet the requirements of the parents who are choosing to send their kids their. As I said in reply to your other post, public school 10th grade is private school 6th grade. My peers are private school couldn't point out Iraq on map yet I remember having Palestian-Isreali debates in 6th grade at my private school. ITS the PUBLIC schools that give high grades because they want to save their pay and pensions because they know that if they actually give the right grades the test scores(hence funding) will plummit. Theyll actually have to do their jobs.

The first time I came to public school and found out that open note tests were standard I wished I had a voucher to get out.

Public school is at best creating mediocre citizens. Remember 30% of public school kids dropout and out of the other 70% only 20% actually go to a type of college( community or state or private) Whereas in a public school over 70% are going to colleges.
01:56 PM on 04/12/2012
At first this appears to be a great idea. Of course, everyone wants a well educated population in order to have a functioning democracy. However, a private school is a for profit business at the end of the day. Their end goal is to increase profits while expanding their clients every year. I can see a situation in which these private schools would abuse the government(i.e. the people's money) being handed out. What would stop these private schools from recruiting these disadvantaged kids, get the government money, and them flunking the kids out in a year or two while maintaining the high level of service thus ensuring the kids, whose parents pay all the money themselves, have high tests scores?
06:50 AM on 04/13/2012
Charter schols only recruit the best out of each neighborhood public school's area, leaving the most challenging students, the most newest immigrants, the lowest performers, and the ones that are really behind. They say they don't but, a lot of these kids have issues that make them ineligible to attend the charter school. Charter schools demand more from the parents who sigh contracts to fulfill their obligation, and if the student has a druggie mom, or one that's not functioning well, then bye kid and back he goes head in shame as a failure. Others fail because of excessive behavior problems or lack of transportation out of the hood. Our inner city schools are so segregated, in my school in the 15 years there, only a handful of white students, most times the playground is full of only black hair kids, of many other races. Role models in good academic language behavior and English speakers make it hard for them to learn modeling the street language non existent academic desire or ability. My last class of 6th graders had only 2 students capable of leading a group or being any type of class leader. all girls.
01:24 AM on 04/19/2012
Their reputation.
09:39 AM on 04/12/2012
I believe parents have a right in chosing how to handle their child's education. With that said, the article makes every public school sound like a prison and the children are hostages. When did public schools become a metaphor for war, death, darkness, evil. Villifying public schools doesn't make private or charter schools any better just different, something new. There are a lot of public schools that are achieving and producing great students. It's a sad day when people have to write that a public and free education is a "trap." Is the free and public education a new form of slavery?
10:47 AM on 04/15/2012
Agree. If parents let the kids do whatever they want at home, then school (with its expectations, rules, consequences, and enforcers) probably seems like a prison, trampling the delicate snowflakes entrusted to it. But in all fairness, some teachers have dealt with enough entitled kids (sometimes simultaneously, in overcrowded classrooms) that they probably become more prison-guard-like.

I loved school so big surprise, I became a teacher. I wonder what's different in how kids are raised now. Before I left home for school, I knew many things. 1) No means no. 2) A teacher has almost all the authority of a parent. 3) Your report card is your "paycheck," your contribution to your family.

I sense one other major thing is missing: "What do you want to be when you grow up?" I heard that a lot. Get kids thinking about that; show them that school is a path to it. Then remind them that it takes some work, but most worthwhile things in life do.
01:00 PM on 04/21/2012
Speaking as someone who actually goes to a public school everyday. It is prison.
12:49 AM on 04/12/2012
Vouchers would transform education in this country. At an average of $5,000 per voucher parents would be able to form schools of all sizes. 100 children would bring $500,000 to the table, more than enough for salaries and expenses. Even schools of 10 or 20 students would become instantly viable. The public school system is broken beyond repair, but if the public school system wants public dollars it should be made to compete for them. Administrators are terrified as most public schools would be dismantled. It is about time, as no real good can come of them.
07:07 AM on 04/12/2012
The public school system outperforms charters. When studies control for student demographics, comparing equivalent students, the public system outperforms private schools. While there are certainly some problems with the public system (mostly due to interference by the sort of ignorant people who'd think that vouchers are a good idea), that hardly sounds like a system that's "broken beyond repair." In most cases, it's the most effective system available.

And you're right: widespread, unrestricted access to vouchers WOULD result in the dismantling of much of that system. That's what happens when people have been systematically lied to about it for decades. But you're not right about anything else.
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Bill Jones123
01:58 PM on 04/14/2012
You are attempting to hide a critical assumption in your argument.

You are ready to use MY money to pay for the consumption of a private good.

I will not make the tired old religious freedom or freedom to choose argument.

You can have your portion of tax receipts, no more and no less.

I get to mine. We will both choose where to send our children.

Freedom is protected this way, and real choice is maximized.

Real choice only happens when you USE YOUR OWN MONEY.

Keep your hands off mine.
05:46 PM on 04/14/2012
I believe you have missed the point. I am areligious, and therefore not affiliated with any religious concept or organization. I am a scientist. I homeschool my 12 year old daughter and have, beginning with first grade. We currently are studying Darwin, Thoreau, Emmerson, Joy Hakim, Christopher Alexander. For literature she just finished Franny and Zooey as well as Catch-22. History is The Third Reich, from 1933-1939; we've been studying those 6-7 years for 6 weeks. O, and Tibet. For music she is studying guitar and performs Cajun music with me, in concert. Public school is absurd and cannot compete with any true education. Vouchers will free the American people. Some will be abused, no doubt, some will use vouchers for their religious ends. We have to be willing to let the chips fall where they may in that accountng. Vouchers will transform all education, innercity and suburban. And btw, you were rude in your last statement, and there is no use doing that when we are talking about education. Just saying...
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12:04 AM on 04/12/2012
What a bunch of baloney!

What vouchers do is allow schools to discriminate against students with high needs, whether that be cognitive, physical, emotional, behavioral or otherwise. Vouchers are a slick way of making segregation acceptable and circumventing laws, which is disgusting.

If vouchers could be used by everyone, it would be different. The charter schools in New Orleans were notorious for turning away children with disabilities while collecting public monies and that should be absolutely illegal and prosecuted to change their policies to accept anyone who applies.

As for "trapped" children, they are often trapped in families and neighborhoods that are unsafe and unhealthy for them, but I don't see so-called "reformers" complaining about that--although they may start doing so if they can figure out a way to use it to line their pockets.

Self-identified "education reformers" are the new con people. All they care about is privatizing and profiting from the lies the media continue to sell as facts. These people could not care less about the education of children; their goal is money. This is about pure greed and elitism. They know private and charter schools will continue to refuse enrollment to children with severe disabilities, but then those children wouldn't be a good return on their investment, so they are expendable in their eyes.
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11:59 PM on 04/11/2012
Just what this country needs; you lawyers to fix the public schools.
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Kent Brockman
10:21 PM on 04/11/2012
If only this parent and other attendees at these information gathering sessions on how to flee the community school had invested the same amount of time volunteering at the community school. Parental and community involvement go a long way towards improved student achievement.
08:42 PM on 04/11/2012
"All which begs the question: Is public school system preservation really more important than properly educating as many children possible?"

What an ignorantly false, misleading dichotomy.

Public school system preservation is important precisely BECAUSE it's the best, most effective way to ensure that we properly educate as many children as possible.
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Bill Jones123
02:00 PM on 04/14/2012
The school reform movement always offers the fallacious false choice.

They never read Hobbes.
05:17 PM on 04/11/2012
The data does not show that charter schools and other alternative schools are (on the average) better or more effective than the public schools.

While I am sympathetic to parents avoiding difficult schools, a numbers of years of experience has not shown that the current alternatives are reliably better. Indeed, structured home/on-line schooling supervised by concerned and involved parents is probably better than most charter schools. And if the parents are not concerned and involved, the student going to the charter/alternative school is not likely to do well.
09:51 PM on 04/11/2012
I agree the key ingredient is involved parents, and that's why I think BAEO has been a critical stakeholder in helping troubled schools get the much needed parental and student involvement. I think in a couple years we will see a national model come out from their involvement.
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Bill Jones123
02:01 PM on 04/14/2012
The key ingredient is smart parents.

You can be an involved baseball players and totally stink at the game.

The problem is so much deeper than involvement.

It is mental capital.
01:28 AM on 04/19/2012
Charter and alternative schools are sacrosanct.
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GregJL
04:24 PM on 04/11/2012
"All which begs the question: Is public school system preservation really more important than properly educating as many children possible?"

And therein lie the problem with vouchers. It is NOT a system designed to properly educate as many children as possible, it is a system designed to elevate a few. You can use words like "hundreds of thousands" all you want, but the truth is, as soon as the conservatives dismantle public education, vouchers will mysteriously dry up, as they start their usual "We can't afford it" chant. But then, you knew that.
06:48 PM on 04/11/2012
Prior to the rise of state school systems in the mid 1800s, elementary school enrollment was already nearly universal and the great majority of students attended independent schools. This was possible thanks to large-scale private philanthropy. That philanthropy only dried up when state school systems expanded and dramatically increased their spending. There was never a time in this nation's history when even a sizable minority of Americans opposed universal education.
Support for the _ideals_ of public education has always been strong, and it remains strong today. But members of the reality-based community must distinguish between those ultimate ideals and the various policy mechanisms for pursuing them--between ends and means. It just so happens that monopolies have proven to be a bad way to organize any field. Education is no exception.
http://www.mackinac.org/archives/2002/sp2002-03.pdf
08:46 PM on 04/11/2012
If you've got to resort to the Mackinac Center to support your argument, it's a solid bet that you're wrong. Their "studies" are the furthest thing from actual research, biased and intentionally misleading.

We haven't tried a monopoly in education, though we do know that public schools, on average, outperform charters in a straight-up comparison and private schools when studies (REAL studies, not the tripe that the Mackinac Center dreams up) control for student demographics. What you're advocating isn't the breakup of a monopoly; it's pouring scarce funding into the LEAST effective options because they better fit your ideology (and, perhaps, because you've got a vested interest in benefiting from those solutions; many "choice" proponents seem to).
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Bill Jones123
02:13 PM on 04/14/2012
Monopolies are bad, no matter their origins. Monopolies in private health care and upper education markets have crushed the populace.The government does not have exclusive responsibility for market failure.

I would support vouchers only if people used their own money to do it. Real choice never occurs with someone else's money. I am sure you understand that working for a non-profit. According to the CATO institute, it is obscene and a great moral evil to use public monies to fund private consumption.

Lucian remarked about the professional intellectuals. He said they live in fear that they will slide back down the slippery slope of false intellectualism and join the masses . He said they had spent their entire lives getting there and knew that if they fell they would never rise again. From their heights, he said, they could not see the ground.

Please read Lucian. It might open your eyes to those of us who actually make and do things and live in the real world ( not "reality based community").

One last remark: Why do I find so many TENURED, government patrolled professors on the rolls of your think tank and like minded think tanks?

Bill Jones
MS Mathematical Physics
Retired nuclear Navy