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Kim Stolz

Kim Stolz

Posted: October 21, 2008 06:39 PM

The Search for a Paycheck: Young Vets and the Challenge of Finding Work Back At Home


Alexander and Benjamin McCann, of Methuen, Massachusetts returned home after serving in Iraq, expecting the transition to civilian life to be somewhat smooth, especially in respect to finding jobs. Alex, having driven Humvees in Iraq and Benjamin, who served as a Combat Life Saver (similar to a first responder medic), assumed they had the skills to land a decent job in Methuen. "I figured, oh I'm a former marine, a veteran, [I'll] just write it on an application, all my credentials, everything I'm qualified to do... There's got to be something out there. So far, it's been nothing but dead ends," admitted Benjamin.

Ben went on to explain his first experience trying to get a job. "When I went to apply for the firefighter job and told them that I was combat lifesaver qualified, they kind of looked at me like, 'What's that?'" The plethora of military licenses and skills that they had acquired were not sufficient for landing a simple job in the northeast corner of Massachusetts.

There is no doubt that right now is a tough time to be a young person. The economy is frighteningly unstable, colleges are canceling scholarships in order to pay their own debt, and companies across the nation are undergoing hiring freezes and massive layoffs so that they can keep afloat. Young veterans are returning to this country having, in a sense, put their lives on pause, and so find themselves at even more of a disadvantage than the average young person. Ironically, the same men and women who have been sent by our country and government to fight a war, come back to find that even city governments won't hire them as they lack the basic US certifications for the jobs that they are, according to them, already qualified for.

The city of Methuen has recently passed a resolution that would give veterans preferential treatment for city jobs. The hope is that this resolution will spread to other towns and cities, and even states, so that the transition to civilian life can be easier for young veterans. Perhaps with the kind of positivity and determination exhibited by Benjamin and Alex McCann paired with a greater effort by city governments across the country, this step will be taken. For now, young veterans like Benjamin and Alex are patient, waiting for such steps to be taken. As Benjamin said, "It would be a perfect world if I could come right out of the military and say 'Hey I'm combat lifesaver qualified' and have 50 states just jump at it... that would be a perfect world, but it's not a perfect world."

Both Benjamin and Alex McCann will be attending the Young Veterans Concert this Thursday night.... You can watch my interview with them, as well as other young veterans pieces Friday night at 8pm on MTV.

To watch our coverage of Benjamin and Alex, copy and paste the following link to your browser:
http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1597520/20081020/story.jhtml

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Alexander and Benjamin McCann, of Methuen, Massachusetts returned home after serving in Iraq, expecting the transition to civilian life to be somewhat smooth, especially in respect to finding jobs. Al...
Alexander and Benjamin McCann, of Methuen, Massachusetts returned home after serving in Iraq, expecting the transition to civilian life to be somewhat smooth, especially in respect to finding jobs. Al...
 
 
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09:20 AM on 10/23/2008
As the military budget grows and grows (another 450 or so billion in the offing) we will have a bigger and bigger military, all intended to "defend" (Defense Dept. and all that) from new enemies (who are continually being revealed -- e.g., Iran). So, where can a "young vet" get a job? Back in uniform! I'm an "old vet" (Korean War -- remember that bloody fiasco?). As long as we think that we are "Number One" and that everyone in the world should be just like us (or else) and have "ballots instead of bullets" as our pacific motto, then the wars will continue. Nationalism is not Patriotism.
03:17 PM on 10/22/2008
There's much sweet-talk and promises for much money for young guys to enlist.

Many of them sacrifice some years to improve their economic status.

Then they're back from the most horrendous experience and what's left is disappointment.

It's sad.
05:39 PM on 10/22/2008
It's sad if they don't chose a decent job when they enlist. A lot of people allow the military to chose their job for them -why, I have no idea - and they often end up in the infantry, working in food service, vehicle maintenance, or something like that with few good prospects when they get out.
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MajorKong
If the pilot's good, see, I mean if he's reeeally
08:01 PM on 10/22/2008
They don't always have a choice. A recruiter will promise you the world to get you to sign on the dotted line. Plus the Army and Marines need infantrymen. Lots and lots of infantrymen.
03:17 PM on 10/22/2008
A lot of kids enter the military without a defined career plan. Many chose military jobs that don't translate into jobs in the civilian world. This is not a new phenomena.
02:31 PM on 10/22/2008
Ms. Stolz, if you look at the history of this country, the government has always used these men up and then turned its back on them(especially veterans with psychological issues). What should scare the hell out of this country, is that you have a large mass of men, trained in combat, coming back to an economy in deep sh*t. Guess what's next.
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MajorKong
If the pilot's good, see, I mean if he's reeeally
10:58 AM on 10/22/2008
I left active duty in late 1991, right in the middle of a recession. I was a highly qualified pilot - right at the time the airlines were laying off pilots by the thousands. Not good timing to say the least.

It took six months before I was able to find even a low paying job as a contract laborer.
02:56 AM on 10/22/2008
I have long pointed out to veteran's of earlier times that this is a bad situation. At every other point following a "hot" war veterans have come back to a relatively stable economy and well paying working class jobs. Being from southeast Michigan I constantly listen to the Vietnam guys who hopped from one auto manufacturer to another until they finally "exercised" those demons and where able to hold it together, in today's world your fired if you miss a day at BK. There is a reason why Korea was called the "forgotten war" those veterans were able to come back to prosperity and put one foot in front of the other get up go to work everyday know they were making a living and put it behind them. I have to point out that vets coming home today don't have these type of jobs available to them are in fact lucky if they can find anything beyond a minimum wage gig just to make ends meet. There is no greater disservice than a veteran home from war left to sit and think about it because they are prevented from simply getting on with it. It is truly sad. In earlier days a military job had a direct equivalent in the civilian world, you could go from a nuclear powered sub to a nuclear power station, now civilian and military experience and training are mutually exclusive. The post office or the railroad used to be a sure bet, not anymore.
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08:21 PM on 10/21/2008
It's not just the young vets.

A lot of National Guard & Reserve soldiers of all ages returning from deployment are finding out their jobs are gone. There's a Federal law that says companies have to hold a citizen soldier's job while he or she's mobilized, and the Guard & Reserve do a good job of making it stick.

But if the company goes out of business, or eliminates ALL of the jobs, you ain't gonna' get yours back. You're just months behind all your former co-workers who are already out there looking for work.

A lot of small companies are also going out of business. If "Joe the plumber" is in the National Guard, when he gets mobilized there's all too often no one to carry on his business and keep it going until he can get home. He's going to have to start all over again when he gets back.

And if he stays in, he's likely to have to do it again, and again, and again, ...
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07:43 PM on 10/21/2008
...,ms. stolz - i would hope in your contact with our new vets, you implore them to follow up on seeking whatever needed health and mental health services they need at their local VA's. as a VA doc for 25 years, i'd ask you to please have them explicitly be told that the VA in most areas has become very modernized , responsive and offers very good quality medical and psychiatric services in most locales.. they need to see the VA today as different than their uncle's and grandfathers admittedly lesser quality services of 20 years ago. thank you for your activities with our nations returning vets. i have found them to be individually and collectively an inspiring, mature and very admirable cohort.
07:24 PM on 10/21/2008
Ms. Stolz,

The experience of being in the military is life altering and one of profound responsibility. Unfortunately, many civilian employers fail to recognize the many positive attributes of those who have served in the military and they are not able to translate military responsibilities to the civilian sector.

I served in the Vietnam Conflict as an Army officer and helicopter pilot. I would have liked to have gone on to become an airline pilot, as many of my associates were able to do, but achieving that goal was sidelined upon being seriouly wounded. Thereafter, I went back to college, completed graduate school and became a CPA and have had a successful career. Bottom line, I used the then G.I. Bill to gain the educational credentials the civilian workplace understands.

This country needs a damn good G.I. Bill so that the McCann's and other veterans like them can go to school and get the educations that position them for the future. Educating our veterans is good Public Policy and we should all be hounding our representatives in Washington to do better.

I challenge you during the upcoming Young Veterans Concert to make a responsible petition in your interviews for an improved G.I. Bill.
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07:18 PM on 10/21/2008
I got lucky. After getting out of the Navy in 2003 I searched for about 2 years, working odd minimum wage jobs until I was able to get a govt job. I remember at least a dozen applications, many of which got me an interview, and none of them panned out, usually because they were either looking for a college degree or because they didn't trust military training.
12:21 AM on 10/22/2008
Why don't the service veterans ask Sarah Palin for the same job she arranged for her future son-in-law working in the northern Alaskan oil fields. He just dropped out of high school to take one of those coveted $20-$50 and hour + overtime jobs, arranged by future mommy-in-law. How many other kids at his high school would jump at the chance for one of those jobs and quit high school also? How many of our veterans deserve that job much more so than Levi? This is one more high paying oil field job to a person much less qualified and deserving than any of our veterans returning, due to a person using their politcal pull and connections to help their own family rather than our returning vets. Let Levi work odd minimum wage jobs until he gets his college degree or a license in some specialty before he takes away those coveted oil field jobs. Instead mommy -n-law takes care of him. Let our veterans take these jobs since they are much more qualified and let Palin show her gratitude to them rather than to her future son-in-law.