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It's been said history is written by the victors. However, in 2008's presidential contest, history is increasingly being written, rewritten and argued by the supporters, friends, relatives, and maybe even the staffs of presidential hopefuls.
Every day on Wikipedia, the battle for the 2008 election is fought across the candidates' pages through a steady flow of additions, deletions, edits, and reverts. A study of three days of changes on the candidates' pages may not be a predictor of popularity or electability, but it certainly is fascinating in its own right.
In terms of activity, on August 17 the winner in sheer volume of changes in a single day was Mitt Romney, whose main biographical page logged a wearying twenty-eight edits. Internet darling Ron Paul came in second with eighteen changes, while others registered few or no edits.
Many of the changes on any given day in Wikipedia are fairly mundane: typo fixing, formatting adjustments, shifts of information from one section of a page to another. Others are repairs of vandalism, the wildly outrageous statements that are the equivalent of scrawls across a campaign poster and are usually quickly deleted. (It's a safe bet that "Ron Paul is the new spokesman for Fierce Melon Gatorade" is going to be noticed and taken out pretty quickly.)
In the case of Romney's busy day, most of the activity involved these kinds of small changes. But two larger stories emerged. One was the appearance of a list of financial controversies related to Bain Capital, the investment firm Romney co-founded. During the day, the list was cut, put back, moved to another section, and cut again. It is currently not part of the page.
The other major story for Romney, that had apparently been percolating for a while, was the question of how much information to include about his wedding. Yes, that's right: his wedding. Romney had had both a civil ceremony for non-Mormons to attend and a ceremony in the Mormon church, which was only for members of the Church of Latter-Day Saints. Earlier this had been a whole paragraph, with specifics about guests at both ceremonies; as of now, it's down to one sentence and everyone seems to agree that's just right.
The amount of activity on any candidate's page is also dependent on the news cycle. John Edwards had no changes on August 17th. However, on August 18th, a story broke about his investment in a hedge fund that was involved in foreclosures in New Orleans. His page went through the process of adding this information and fine-tuning it. Initially, it appeared as the vague and negative, "Edwards has attacked sub-prime mortgage lenders. In August, 2007, it was revealed by several news organizations that Edwards profited from foreclosing on subprime lenders by repossessing homes of Katrina victims." Throughout the day, words and information were added until it became the much more specific and factual, "In August of 2007, the Wall Street Journal reported that a portion of the Edwards' family's assets were invested in Fortress Investment Group, that had, in turn, invested a portion of its assets in subprime mortgage lenders, some of which had foreclosed on the homes of Hurricane Katrina victims. Upon learning of Fortress' investments, Edwards divested his funds from the investment group and stated that he would try to help the affected families." Wikipedia editors are always striving for a "neutral point-of-view" and this type of evolution in breaking news is not uncommon.
With all the editors working on Wikipedia (on Wikipedia, anyone can make a change and thus become an editor), it's no surprise that there is a constant flow of additional information. The "more you know factor," though, can just as easily confuse rather than clarify. The big debate on the Fred Thompson page was his religious affiliation: was it the Churches of Christ or Disciples of Christ, and if he is elected president, would he be the second president after James Garfield to belong to this denomination? The statement, "If elected president, he would become the second president in U.S. history (after James Garfield) to belong to the Churches of Christ, a non-denominational Christian group that was formed on the day of Pentecost as found in the book of Acts," now stands as, "Thompson belongs to the Churches of Christ, a non-denomination group of churches descended from the Stone-Campbell Restoration Movement. If elected president, he would become the third Stone-Cambellite president in U.S. history, after James Garfield and Lyndon B. Johnson (LBJ belonged to the Christian Church (Disciples of Christ); the split happened after Garfield's time.)" Very specific, indeed. File under "Things to Keep in Mind While Pondering James Garfield and Schisms of 19th Century American Protestant Sects."
Wikipedia Campaign '08 isn't all denominational hair-splitting and wedding parties, though. Barack Obama's page was the site for more familiar fights involving class warfare and American hegemony -- with a peculiarly Wikipedian twist, though.
The class warfare issue started when an admin (these are higher-level editors who have been given special superpowers, such as being able to protect, or lock down a page) noticed heavy activity on the Obama page. A flurry of edits -- often on mind-numbingly small details, such as whether to add a "Jr.," to Obama's name -- were constantly being made and then reverted by other editors, with no reason listed other than "sock puppet." A sock puppet is a false identity; essentially, people create sock puppets by registering as editors under a series of different names, usually for the purpose of hiding their identities or to build the appearance of consensus on an issue when there is really only one advocate.
The admin, suspecting some kind of trouble, put the Obama page into "semi-protection," that is locked it down temporarily in order to find out what was going on. This led to a serious of furious exchanges on the discussion page, with allegations of abuse of power by the admin, and anger that this had been done without bothering to understand that the "edit-warring" was not a real problem, but simply the result of (in what is so far the phrase of the year, and unlikely to be challenged for that title) "a rolling band of disruptive socks."
Things got even worse when another admin stopped by, studied the situation, and advised that the protection be taken off. The first admin agreed and lifted the lock. Now people began to call out the first admin for only listening to other admins. As one editor put it: "It is most definitely a good thing that us lowly plebeians don't have any pull with an elite admin like yourself. Imagine if you had to listen when uppity non-admins challenged your actions. That would be dreadfully unnerving, mixing with the baser classes and all." Heavens to Murgatroyd, what would Barack have to say about all this? (probably, "Uh, I don't use Jr. with my name. Thanks for asking.")
The other problem was a complaint involving what some described as typical American arrogance and others considered just an issue of user-friendliness. If users typed Obama into the search box, what page should come up? Should it go directly to Barack Obama's main biographical page? Or should it go to what is known as a "disambiguation page," that is a page that lists a number of possibilities for a word. For example, typing in "Clinton," leads to a disambiguation page that lists page links for Hillary, Bill, Chelsea, George Clinton, DeWitt Clinton, and any number of towns named Clinton. Obama, one group of editors argued, should go to a disambiguation page because of options such as the Japanese town of Obama and the president of Equatorial Guinea, Ricardo Mangue Obama Nfubea--both, they argued, much more important and of international significance than a junior senator from Illinois who may or may not make it to the Democratic primary. The others pointed out that the Barack Obama page was amongst the most viewed Wikipedia pages and therefore for ease of use, searches should automatically go there, with the page featuring a link to an Obama disambiguation page.
When several admins quietly moved the search result from the direct to Barack version to the Obama disambig, name-calling started, with accusations of "cabals" and "collaborations." In an attempt to calm things down, someone started a poll to see which result was preferred. Rather than vote, though, many editors wrote statements of protest, saying they wouldn't participate in a poll when they felt the result was already rigged by the cabal of Obama disambig-ers (latest update: currently the search automatically goes to Barack Obama, with the disambiguation link). Again, what would Barack think? (probably something like, "Is there a link to my entry? Okay.")
This is just a small slice of life on the Wikipedia campaign trail, where the little things can get big fast, and where the edit wars may sometimes say more about Wikipedia and the people who use it than the candidates themselves. Breaking news or living history, Wikipedia evolves with the candidates, the moment, and its enormous editorial cast. One day Dennis Kucinich is a socialist; one day he is not. Stay tuned.
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As an OKshunall Wiki-editer, I caht this emmedeehtly...
~"This led to a "SERIOUS" of furious exchanges on the discussion page, with allegations of abuse of power by the admin, and anger that this had been done without bothering to understand that the "edit-warring" was not a real problem, but simply the result of (in what is so far the phrase of the year, and unlikely to be challenged for that title) "a rolling band of disruptive socks."~
1) I think that shuld of bin..
..a "series" of furious exchanges...and,
2) "a rolling band of disruptive socks" shuld shirley have been identifide by Wiki ( or by you, in using it as reference!..she said, pulling a pencil out of her shirt pocket) as being mismatched and color-impaired. I wuld also question the bias of Wiki's refuring to them as "a rolling band.." This infurs movement forward when we all know that their activity inhibited any forward thinking with their disruption!
I feel an edit coming on...
3) "Wikipedia: Ignore all rules" states that "If a rule prevents you from working with others to improve or maintain Wikipedia, ignore it."
Er, uh, nevermind?...be seeing ya' on the talk page!
P.S. Google "wikipedia huffington" for a good time;}
In a world of Zeitgeist,and u-tube
Zeitgeist:
(http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5547481422995115331&hl=en,)
The lesson is be carefull what you beieve on the internet. I effectivly use Wikipedia, but verify content. The free speech doctrine of the Internet is something to simultaneously embrase and be cautious of. Zeitgeist -Jesus Christ never existed, no airplane ever crashed into the Pentagon, and the world trade center was mined with explosives. All of this may be true, but the world of editing and fact re-information can make anything appar to be true. Amost 2 million people have viewed Zeitgeist. Maybe millions more should, but for a different reason. How many listened to Hitler in Gernmany on the radio and drew their conclusions, or should I say, pre-dispositions. Gore's "Assault on Reason" warns of the dynamics of television on persuasion. Well, the medium is the message, and the medium is the Internet, Wikipedia, U-tube, and Google., and the message is verify content. It's a wild and whooly world out there, and editing is the name of the game.
i wish the Bain Capital section was replaced, IF IT IS TRUE.
there is nothing wrong with an honest and objective telling of the truth. for example: Bill Frist cheated whilst attending Harvard Medical, and he defrauded animal shelters in order to facilitate the cheating. he was awarded a degree, and passed his boards. he now has an M.D.--upon which he parlayed a career in politics.
HE told us all of this in HIS AUTOBIOGRAPHY. it is FACT, not conjecture.
although the admission of fraud and cheating are now mentioned in section 7.2 of his entry, Harvard has never revoked his degree (it IS university policy to recind degrees received through dishonesty...the class for which he cheated was REQUIRED for his degree). this addition to his entry is fairly recent...i have checked several times over the past few years.
as a resident of texas, who knew all along what a georgie-boy in the White House would mean, and i wish that ALL of the factual, ugly truth was available to the general public. but then again, i have to wonder if amerikkans would believe the truth if it was peeing on their living-room carpet.
Makes you wonder about the process that brought us the Bible, doesn't it? And what about the history books we learned from, and those other online teaching tools being used by our children today?
There is a tool available that shows who edited what if the originating ip is know to be at say, the BBC, the CIA, Reuters, etc...
It might turn up interesting info about candidate pages. I haven't tried it but it's gotten good reviews. One of the many articles is at
http://www.infoworld.com/article/07/08/16/Tool-
exposes-self-edits-in-Wikipedia_1.html
The link for the scanner is at:
http://wikiscanner.virgil.gr/
If you don't trust links and want to search for yourself, look for "Wikipedia Scanner".
The disciples of Jesus where chosen out the largest sinners(the largest sexual sinners). Fact is, they where actually anti-Christ's on the moment that Jesus had to choose His disciples. And He told them to go to the city's and the villages to tell the people to stop committing sin, to tell them to stop committing sexual sins, because Jesus came to for-fill the Law, not to make it worse!
And even I could become a president of the USA in the 2000 elections, and I wasn't on the list of candidates, and even become the first King of The United states of America. The Dutch Queen would have liked that a Dutch man as King of the USA. Only the Dutch Queens son Willem-Alexander was wrong because It makes me the first King of America but the Netherlands a new State of the USA, Because of my Dutch pasport !
That means that the children of Beatrix aren't Prince's and Princesses anymore! They became in 2000 ordenary cittisens !
ROTF. I hadn't had a good laugh like this in a while (except for the bit about Bob Barker on Robot Chicken.)
Fascinating. There really is no end to depth of passion, is there?
Wikipedia sites that Alfred E. Neuman has periodically been offered as a candidate for president with the slogan “ You could do worse….and always have!”
When Neuman isn’t busy running for president himself he is actively campaigning for the most Right Wing Republican loser available and also endorsed by Ann Coulter and Bill O’reilly. – just kidding, of course.
Best Regards,
G&M
Coulter and Billo would never endorse Neuman. They hate competition.
I don't know... if THIS doesn't say a lot... I don't know what does. I KNEW the voting machines were a scam... and will once again, be used to win an election for the evil GOP.
I'm sure you all read this already...but this validates ALL of my suspicions.
"Voting-machine company Diebold provides a good example of the latter, with someone at the company's IP address apparently deleting long paragraphs detailing the security industry's concerns over the integrity of th
eir voting machines, and information about the company's CEO's fund-raising for President Bush."
How do we stop these crooks from stealing yet another election? Is there any legal recourse we can take against DIEBOLD?
We cannot allow these machines to be used again.
Faults or not-Wikipedia is more current & more accurate than the ENCYCLOPEDIA BRITINACA.
No, Fact Finder, the facts and truth are not like the price of a turnip at a Bulgarian outdoor market. They never change. Only people's perceptions change, and what you're allowed to say and write changes. That is the problem with wikipedia. Even as a snapshot of what people are thinking, it is worthless, because some articles are so carefully guarded.
Try writing that Patti Reagan was born to Nancy "Just Say No" Reagan as a full-term baby seven months after the Reagans got married, and WHOOOSH, it will disappear within minutes. Try entering that Eleanor Roosevelt was a lesbian. WHOOOOOSH! Gone. Yet both are facts. I wouldn't recommend wikipedia to a 10-year old doing a book report.
I’ve noticed that, too. When I have written about the history of human rights it stays there for about a week and then whoooosh!!! Someone edits my stories away. Sometimes the editor actually comes around to follow my hints and completes the articles as they should be.
I have noticed that Joe Biden’s biography has been rewritten and all of the inflammatory material suspiciously removed; missing evidence and a gap in the tape. Hmmmmm.
As a source to read about history I have found Wiki to be much more complete than the CIA World Fact Book web site or anything else I have seen on-line.
Seeing how Fred Thompson is still in the exploratory stage, his people should make sure that his page does not refer to him as a candid.... oh yea, that's right, I forgot. Federal election laws don't apply to Republicans.
The facts and truth keep changing so they have to be modified.
Wow! Wikipedia is great, even when the politcal candidates get so much edit activity. It reveals a lot about what a certain market of voters are thinking.
Overall it is a great addition to our political knowlege base! Among other things...
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