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A Space For Grace: Catching Song With Bobby McFerrin

Posted: 06/17/11 10:11 AM ET

Years ago, when my children were young, we danced around the house to Bobby McFerrin's Hush album. I've followed his adventures with magnificent orchestras and with the jazz great Chick Corea. I've heard his setting of the 23rd Psalm, addressed to a female deity, played in churches. And I've watched him leading thousands of strangers in the "Ave Maria" — singing notes they did not know they knew to sing — to their own deep delight.

Bobby McFerrin is an explorer on frontiers of the human voice; he sings the territory between music and the human spirit. I knew this when I sat down to speak with him, but I couldn't guess how beautifully he would be able to put it into words or how theologically he does so. As an interviewer, I've learned that words can be unfamiliar and blunt tools for people whose principal mode of expression is art.

As we first begin to speak, this famously hyperkinetic performer is very quiet. He tells me that as a teenager he considered becoming a monk, because of his love of quiet. He tilts his head upward, with a thoughtful smile, and says he was fascinated by the monastic rhythm of life that brought one, compulsively and predictably, back to an awareness of the presence of God.

Bobby McFerrin instead took up art as a measure of his days. His way of making music — "catching songs" as he describes it — points at the elemental force of music, especially the human voice, in what is human and what is sacred.

Bobby McFerrinAs I was preparing to interview him, I found an online review struggling with the spirituality that is never far from the surface in Bobby McFerrin's music. "He may be spiritual," the blogger wrote, "but he apparently knows the world of the flesh as well, and has a very wicked sense of humor." Here's the truth as I see it: spirit, body, and playfulness are of a piece in Bobby McFerrin's music and his person, as they are in all of us when we're getting the complexity of our being halfway right.

But he takes it a step further. He uses music, as he tells me, to lean into that place where flesh and spirit are in tension. He sings the Psalms, pacing back and forth for his morning prayer. He loves that they mine the sweep of human experience, from gratitude and delight to rage and self-pity. He even proposes singing in moments of temptation — singing, before saying a word or lodging a critique that you know is unkind, or that you know would be best kept for another moment. Singing as an ethical discipline.

I begin to wonder if this is a subtle part of the reason that we find music and musicality of wondrous variety at the very heart of our many religious traditions. As breath has a power to join body, mind, and spirit, so too and more passionately does music. Bobby McFerrin's projects across the years — including his "instant opera" Bobble, inspired by the biblical Tower of Babel story — have incorporated Tibetan throat singing, Qur'anic recitation, and liturgical chant. He attends an African-American church sometimes, he tells me, and it cannot help but be soaked in energy and beauty, because the worship service is a kind of addendum to hours of singing together.

In recent years, Bobby McFerrin has taken the mysterious and life-giving delight of singing together to rooms full of strangers. On a stage with neuroscientists at the World Science Festival, he moved his body and the audience saw and sang the pentatonic scale. Science is now able to study what is happening in our brains in this kind of musical moment. And at the same time, we rediscover the primal joy and homecoming in the simple act of singing together with a bunch of other people. There's a parable of our time in there, one that I like.

Near the end of our conversation, he tells a remarkable story of an ethnomusicology student who came to one of his concerts and approached him backstage with some urgency. She had been unearthing and cataloguing dead, extinct languages in Africa. How, she asked him, do you know some of these languages? He was, she said, singing their vocabulary and syntax when he was ostensibly improvising.

We are "embodied memories," Bobby McFerrin says. Music may be one key (the only key?) to unlocking some of those. For me, this story also makes me wonder, "Is music older than language? Is song at least as elemental to what it means to be human as words?"

Bobby McFerrin says, "This is what I want everyone to experience at the end of my concert … this sense of rejoicing. I don't want them to be blown away by what I do. I want them to have a sense of real, real joy from the depths of their being. Because I think when you take them to that place, then you open up a place where grace can come in."

Grace came in to my conversation with Bobby McFerrin. And it's left me humming.

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In the Room with Bobby McFerrin from On Being on Vimeo.

 
 
 
Years ago, when my children were young, we danced around the house to Bobby McFerrin's Hush album. I've followed his adventures with magnificent orchestras and with the jazz great Chick Corea. I've he...
Years ago, when my children were young, we danced around the house to Bobby McFerrin's Hush album. I've followed his adventures with magnificent orchestras and with the jazz great Chick Corea. I've he...
 
 
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09:27 AM on 06/19/2011
thanks 4 this......
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Cindbird
11:43 PM on 06/18/2011
What an amazing interview. The idea that music is nothing more or less than the sounds of our heart beat. Thank you Mr. McFerrin and Krista Tippett.
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Abdul-Halim Vazquez
02:19 PM on 06/18/2011
What I think is surprising is that he even had several Grammys under his belt before "Don't Worry...".
02:13 PM on 06/18/2011
I don't own any of his albums but I love a good voice and he's got a great one.
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LisaLisa1234
11:55 AM on 06/18/2011
As a music student at UCSD, I went to see Bobby McFerrin give a concert on our campus. Since this was well before "Don't Worry...", we got to sit in the front row. Then he called some of us up onstage to be a human piano, a joyful (funny how the author of this piece also uses that word) experience that I will never forget.

He hugged each one of us on the way back to our seats. I was floored by his talent, but I was inspired by his ability to draw people in and draw out their inner musician. I changed my major from music because I am too systematic and lack creativity; however, that night, I felt like I could do anything, and my musicianship improved, because my belief in it grew. A very powerful night.
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08:27 AM on 06/18/2011
I think "Don't Worry Be Happy" was the worst song ever recorded.
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flootz
10:05 AM on 06/18/2011
I wonder what your point would be? He has done so much more than that.
11:39 AM on 06/18/2011
You clearly haven't heard much music. There's lots of truly terrible recordings. And anyway, that song was just a fun exploration of some things and wasn't meant to be serious. It's just goofy.
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01:55 AM on 06/18/2011
"60 Minutes" once had a piece on Bobby McFerrin. He withdrew from the public eye because he did not want to be a celebrity, preferring to spend time with his family. Great guy.
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03:55 PM on 06/17/2011
McFerrin could perhaps be the ambassador needed in the Middle East? Imagine him somehow getting embattled parties to sing together. It's awfully hard to hate someone you have just sung with. Find the right music, bring in the politicians, run through a few songs together, who knows?
09:01 AM on 06/18/2011
This image you paint is just lovely, something that would be transcendent to witness. And, why not in our own political arenas here in the U.S. too! ~Trent Gilliss, senior editor - On Being
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flootz
09:59 AM on 06/18/2011
What a beautiful idea, Stuart. Concentrate on beauty, music, and imagine the possibilities.
02:23 PM on 06/17/2011
I met Bobby McFerrin years ago, early 1980s, backstage in San Francisco before a show. He's the only person I've ever seen who had a visible aura, gold and glowing. Jon Hendricks introduced him by saying, "You've heard of 'never-before-seen' ? Well, now you're going to hear never-before-heard'." Was he right. The world is a much brighter place because he's in it. Keep up that glow, Bobby.
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edrice222
04:21 AM on 06/18/2011
I want to live in a world filled with people like Bobby McFerrin. This earth would be an extraordinary place.
Thanks for your post, Cassandra. Really beautiful.
FnF
03:01 PM on 06/18/2011
Thank you! It was an extraordinary night and I'll never forget it. He wasn't famous at all then and I'm so happy he wasn't changed by fame.
09:05 AM on 06/18/2011
Cassandra, we producers at On Being had a similar experience prior to the start of Krista's interview with Bobby McFerrin. We were waiting for him to arrive in a rehearsal room at Minnesota Orchestra Hall when we heard a playful be-bopping of a voice from down the hall, slowly stepping forward. Then, as he emerged from the sound lock, he comes in and says something like, "Oh, you have to try these ginger cookies I was just eating in the car." And he runs out of the room and comes back with a tin of ginger snaps. Just a delightful moment.

Thanks for sharing yours. ~Trent Gilliss, senior editor - On Being
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flootz
10:02 AM on 06/18/2011
Thanks for keeping my opinion of Bobby 'glowing'. I have always adored his work and agree so much with what he has to say--both through music and in his words.