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Kristin M. Swenson, Ph.D.

Kristin M. Swenson, Ph.D.

Posted: March 12, 2010 03:49 PM

The Bible As Porn?

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Recently, atheist students at a Texas university offered porn in exchange for Bibles arguing, "same diff." Inflammatory, to be sure, but are they right? The Bible is indeed full of racy material, from its very first book on. Robert Crumb's Genesis in graphic novel form warns on the cover that adult supervision is recommended. The Song of Solomon's highly suggestive erotic poetry is inspiration for a line of Christian sex toys that you can buy at Book22.com (in one Christian ordering of the books, the Song of Solomon is the twenty-second book). In the New Testament, Paul explicitly lists some of the ways that people "got off" in the ancient Greco-Roman world. Revelation, the final book of Christian canon, describes in gory (albeit symbolic) detail the whoring of Babylon. And that's just a wee sampling of the sex. But pornography isn't just about sex, is it? There's something more that makes it what it is ... and so difficult to define. There's something of the forbidden and shameful about it. There's the debasing and humiliating, the using and abusing of others for a temporary pleasure that drives porn. Violence and the horrors that lay a person out raw, which we watch hungrily, disaffected and complicit. Isn't that combination - the repulsive and our inability to tear our eyes away from it - porn, too?

Wouldn't it be nice to say that the Bible includes no such narratives, images, and invitations? But it does. Saul is castigated for showing mercy to a vanquished king, so we watch smugly as he carries out the righteous act of butchering Agag. We watch as a nameless woman, gang-raped and left for dead, is cut into eleven pieces to rally the Israelite tribes against their own. The prophet Ezekiel likens the capital cities of Samaria and Jerusalem to two young women and proceeds to subject them to graphic humiliations and abuse. We watch comfortably, even titillated, knowing that "they deserved it." Doesn't Jesus's crucifixion - an innocent submitting to a twisted power of the state, of hatred and fear, brutally humiliated and strung up in bloody torture ... and accepted as somehow right and good - meet the criteria for porn? Paul's stern rebukes (whether they came from him or became attributed to him) of women thinking, acting, and speaking with equal humanity as men, and the ways in which those texts have denied women their fullest expressions of humanity ... is that porn? When biblical texts serve the purposes of the powerful to circumscribe individual growth and even to dehumanize the other ... well, a case could be made.

Finally, though, the Bible is not the same as the porn those university students are handing out. It is far more rich and nuanced. It is also full of the very things that lead us to push back against the arrogance of brutality and to cringe and to cry out in sympathy and compassion for the oppressed and abused. Even while it throws into our faces the ugliness of hatred and fear, violence and humiliation, it invites us to challenge (demands that we do!) whatever is life-denying to the least of these, the poorest, and most vulnerable. For that's finally what each of us is, what we all are. Hannah's song becomes Mary's Magnificat. Power is overturned and the weak become the strong. Expectations and assumptions are derailed and reborn in compassion and joy.

If we loose our grip on what the Bible can and cannot do, on what we allow that the Bible says and doesn't say, and if we are intentional about bringing our full humanity to the demanding (and unavoidable) task of interpretation, then maybe we'll witness, even participate in the Bible's transforming that potential for porn into a mandate for the fully realized life of all beings in a family at home on this breathing earth.

 
 
 

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Recently, atheist students at a Texas university offered porn in exchange for Bibles arguing, "same diff." Inflammatory, to be sure, but are they right? The Bible is indeed full of racy material, from...
Recently, atheist students at a Texas university offered porn in exchange for Bibles arguing, "same diff." Inflammatory, to be sure, but are they right? The Bible is indeed full of racy material, from...
 
 
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07:57 PM on 03/24/2010
You can see lots of examples at
www.mwillett.org/atheism/scat.htm
12:06 PM on 03/16/2010
Like any other book, the bible is read with the subjectivity of the reader. Many read judgment and intolerance. People read that slavery was condoned by god. Women were to be subjugated by men (and like it). Children were to be beaten (another place contradicted this, but that's the point - you take what you like). Mysogeny is everywhere - without any empathy or sorrow, women are ordered raped, murdered, married off, forced into prostitution. Babies are specific targets of god's wrath in several places. There is sex, violence, and every kind of torture imaginable. Yes, there are a few afterthoughts about mercy, love and justice in the NT, but this is FAR outweighed by admonitions for violence by a wrathful, unpredictable and jealous god. Is this is god to worship? I grew up christian, but when I opened my mind and read what was actually IN the bible, and not just the good stuff that I had been told, it was the beginning of the end of my faith. I am grateful that I did this because I found out that religion is built on a house of sand. So is it porn? It is, if that's what you're looking for. You will find legitimacy in the bible for whatever you wish to be. So lose the bible, and just be who you are.
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12:00 PM on 03/17/2010
I just have to say, VERY well said. I too was raised Christian and lost my faith when I delved deeper into the "myseries of the Bible". I really truly believe that if Christians really did read the Bible and actually read it, not take what they want from it, that their eyes would be opened as well. It's impossible to resist. At least it was for me. I'm glad my eyes have been opened for years now. I was NEVER ONCE happy while I was in the Christian Church, ever since I've left I'm strained to recall a time when I WASN'T happy.

Most definately Fanned.
01:47 PM on 03/17/2010
Thanks for the feedback! Although I think it takes real courage to read the bible with a truly open mind, not just ready to rationalize the contradictions, untruths, and violence. That's because many christians are taught that doubt is the ultimate sin - the only one that won't be forgiven. It frightens people out of thinking for themselves. So it takes a lot for a christian to truly to be open to a journey of discovery, searching for real truth (wherever it takes them). But if you and I did it, I'm sure there are many others too. Cheers!
03:45 PM on 03/13/2010
Why didn't they just come out with a picture Bible like they do for the kiddies. You know, Adam and Eve gettin' it on and so and so "knowing" his wife and his wifes' handmaid etc. Could have been a best seller.
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capitaldysfunction
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04:19 AM on 03/14/2010
I would have actually read that version of the Bible.

Carried it with me to school. Shared it with my friends.

Brought it home and opened it at night.

And I've been an atheist since my teens.
11:49 PM on 03/14/2010
Do all the pages still open on that hypothetical Bible?
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mabinog
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02:51 PM on 03/13/2010
I got the impression that the point was not that the Bible was porn but that the Bible can be read as just about whatever you want. As is obvious from the articles here the entire political spectrum has no problem finding something in it to justify their proclivities.
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Weirdo
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02:03 PM on 03/13/2010
I do think that's inflammatory. I wouldn't do it, and I'm an atheist. The Bible is certainly not porn, but I think I get the idea of whacking back hard at the religious who seem to have no compunction about whacking at unbelievers as hard and as often as they can. I just wouldn't do it that way.

I think you touch on something interesting here:

"The prophet Ezekiel likens the capital cities of Samaria and Jerusalem to two young women and proceeds to subject them to graphic humiliations and abuse. We watch comfortably, even titillated, knowing that "they deserved it."

Christians do like to fantasize about non-believers getting their comeuppance, and they act this out toward those who don't believe as they do. It's a major cause of trouble.

There's a section in Slaughterhouse Five where Kurt Vonnegut talks about why Christians find it so easy to be cruel, while touting a Gospel that speaks of mercy. It goes like this:

The flaw in the Christ stories, said the visitor from outer space, was that Christ, who didn't look like much, was actually the Son of the Most Powerful Being in the Universe. Readers understood that, so, when they came to the crucifixion, they naturally thought...:

Oh, boy - they sure picked the wrong guy to lynch that time!

And that thought had a brother: "There are right people to lynch." Who? People not well connected. So it goes.
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oMeoMi
01:10 PM on 03/14/2010
"whacking back hard at the religious..." "whacking at unbelievers as hard and as often..."

Hmm, why is it I find your choice of words in this context mildly amusing?
01:56 PM on 03/18/2010
lol
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Uncle Bob
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12:54 PM on 03/13/2010
wow. That was a fair piece. Good to see.
09:50 AM on 03/13/2010
The bible we talk about today is a book that was created, edited, approved by the Emperor Constantine. He was a human who was more inspired by complete domination of all humans everywhere on earth than by "doing god's work". He apparently correctly saw the value of religion as a tool for that end though. So yeh, I can definitely see the parallels to porn in such a deceitful and ultimately disrespectful tome.
JEP57
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12:49 PM on 03/13/2010
You and I both know that there isn't a shred of truth or evidence that Constantine wrote the bible, either old or new testament. You can reject what it has to say in its scriptures, but don't make things up to try to discourage Christians or others from believing it or getting something from it.
04:17 PM on 03/17/2010
And just who do you think commissioned the Council of Nicea to put the Bible together? Constantine. And he was there. Watching.

Do you really think the Bishops couldn't figure out who they needed to pander to? That they didn't realize the politics involved? That there was no horse-trading going on? And that Constantine sat back like a good boy and let the Council decide without his input?

PAH-LEEZE!
03:24 PM on 04/05/2010
No, constantine didn't write the bible. He, with the council of nicea, compiled it and decided was was truth and fiction in christianity. He dictated what people were to believe. And people have been following this blindly for millenia. It's time to stop and question it - we now have unlimited access to information. And I understand that some people need the structure of religion. But that does not make religious claims true.
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gal416
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12:52 PM on 03/13/2010
That's like saying king James wrote the King James Version of the Bible.
01:54 PM on 03/13/2010
King James commisioned the translation of the bible. The council of Nicea decided what would constitute the bible.
09:11 AM on 03/13/2010
Larry Flint is God
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TheBodySacred
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07:28 AM on 03/13/2010
To compare scripture with porn is ridiculous. Porn is all about using sex as entertainment and stimulating sexual desire. The Bible on the other hand is a spiritual book, which contains accounts of the activities of humans - whether good or bad. These accounts are placed there to teach, educate, and inform. Unlike humans, God is not into covering up sin but in exposing sin. Nothing is hidden from the eyes of God and all will come to light one day.

The vivid sexual content in the Bible shows us that the sexual struggles of man are nothing new. What is being done today sexually, has been done sexually before. One thing is certain though - the Bible does place a high value on celebrating sex as a sacred gift from God, so anything done to mar the sacredness of sex is condemned (rape, incest, adultery, and so on).
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metogamekun
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07:59 AM on 03/13/2010
Yep, good literature does that. Makes you think and forces your mind to stretch outside of its known boundaries.
01:49 AM on 03/14/2010
Where does the Bible condemn rape? The truth is, rape appears to support rape at times. See the story of Jabesh-gilead in Judges. Or the rape of the Midianites in Numbers. Or see Deutronomy 20. In fact, in Deuteronomy 22 we learn that the "penalty" for rape of an unmarried woman is to marry the woman--and they cannot be divorced. What kind of morality is that?

And the penalty for raping a married woman is that they should kill the woman, because evidently its a sin to be raped. And they should kill the rapist, too, though, as the Bible is clear, it's not because of what he did to the woman, but because he violated his male neighbor's property..

As for prohibitions against incest, it's evidently not an overly important prohibition. Lot gets drunk and commits incest when he gets drunk and sleeps with his daughters. Yet the bible calls him "righteous".

Adultery? Yes, it's condemned in word. But Solomon had several hundred wives, not to mention hundreds of concubines. King David cheated (and killed). Abraham cheated. Yet all "rigthteous" heroes according to the Bible.

I'll also point out that the Bible has no prohibition agains child molestation either.
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TheBodySacred
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09:56 AM on 03/14/2010
Hi Drsas!

Where does the Bible condemn rape? Deuteronomy 22:25-27:

" 25But if a man find a betrothed damsel in the field, and the man force her, and lie with her: then the man only that lay with her shall die.
26But unto the damsel thou shalt do nothing; there is in the damsel no sin worthy of death: for as when a man riseth against his neighbour, and slayeth him, even so is this matter:
27For he found her in the field, and the betrothed damsel cried, and there was none to save her. "

1 Timothy 3:1-6:
"1This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come.
2For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,
3WITHOUT NATURAL AFFECTION, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, FIERCE, despisers of those that are good.......
6For of this sort are they which CREEP INTO HOUSES, and lead CAPTIVE silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts."
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divine diva
10:03 AM on 03/14/2010
Deuteronomy 22:25-29 is not dealing with rape. It is dealing with a man seducing a virgin to go to bed with him.

"28If a man find a damsel that is a virgin, which is not betrothed, and lay hold on her, and lie with her, and they be found;
29Then the man that lay with her shall give unto the damsel's father fifty shekels of silver, and she shall be his wife; because he hath humbled her, he may not put her away all his days."

The penalty for casual sex is payment of the bride price and marriage! If the father of the virgin however refuses to give his daughter into marriage, the seducer must still pay the bride price as 'damages' for ruining this woman's virginity, and hence value. Below is the paralell passage found in Exodus 22:16-17.

"16And if a man entice a maid that is not betrothed, and lie with her, he shall surely endow her to be his wife.
17If her father utterly refuse to give her unto him, he shall pay money according to the dowry of virgins."
02:24 AM on 03/13/2010
What would have been really ballsy is if this student atheist group had made the same offer with the Koran. I bet these "edgy" college kids wouldn't have the guts to mess with Muslims. Muslims fight back.
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12:56 PM on 03/13/2010
"What would have been really ballsy is if this student atheist group had made the same offer with the Koran."

They did. It was offered for all "holy" books.

Something that is often missed by the :"persecuted christians", atheists draw no special distinction between them.
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12:15 AM on 03/13/2010
In time, the Bible corrects all of the false, incomplete, and unbalanced interpretations of its content. Much of what passes as orthodoxy today gives excuses for sin when one can find no such excuses in the Bible. But God is no sadist.
Satan and his demons will be tormenting the lost.
God is love.
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05:01 AM on 03/13/2010
You said:
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In time, the Bible corrects all of the false, incomplete, and unbalanced interpretations of its content...."

Huh? the Bible fallible? why, then is it held up as a standard of righteousness? Many of the horror stories of torture, death, and destruction is God-inspired. And exactly why didn't God make it clear up front? God corrects himself?
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gal416
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01:08 PM on 03/13/2010
Godis said; "false, incomplete, and unbalanced interpretations", just like yours.

1Co 2:13 Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.
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TheBodySacred
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07:30 AM on 03/13/2010
Actually the Bible is not contradictory at all, but is in complete harmony. The problem of interpretation lies with us. People who are unskilled at the Word may find discrepancies, but the perceived discrepancies are due to their lack of experience, not because of any real discrepancy in the Word.
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03:02 PM on 03/13/2010
portions of the scripture when taken literally are contradictory. To deny that is to be dishonest. The problem of interpretation does not lie with us unless you are going to condemn all of us for being human.

Being skilled at the Word = being skilled at finding gullible students.
07:16 PM on 03/14/2010
Tell us about the proper interpretation of the story of Jacob and Esau.