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Women's Rights and Gay Rights: What Can Be Learned in the Quest for Equality

Posted: 01/14/10 01:36 PM ET

Perhaps people find it easier not to support the gay rights movement, to tell themselves that these individuals are somehow less deserving of equality under the law, because gay and lesbian individuals make up a relatively small sector of society, one which, in many communities across the nation, one hardly encounters at all, certainly not with any personal face attached to it.

But think of it for a moment in comparison to a movement that, as a straight woman, I have plenty of personal experience with and which it closely mirrors, a movement which affected more than half of the people in the United States, and indeed, in the world: the women's movement. Before the current battle over the evolution of marriage, a different war for marital and personal freedoms was fought in this country, by and for women who were hoping to find something more than just marriage, as well as more rights within that union.

Up until very recently, then, women and gays have been, if not in the same boat, then at least sailing in the same direction.

In the distant past both groups suffered from the sort of discrimination that today we find abhorrent; women not only couldn't vote, they couldn't own property, divorce an abusive husband, or act as a witness in a court of law. Up until the 1860s, sodomy in Britain was punishable, and through the 1830s actually punished, by death.

Moving into the early twentieth century, women were still without a vote, and thus a voice. At this time, gays were the targets of police raids, and, as laws were on the books barring them from activities as simple as public assembly, they, too, were unable to speak for themselves in any meaningful way.

But in the 1920s, the tide began, however so slowly, to turn in the direction of justice. In 1920, a Federal decision (boy does that sound familiar...) gave American women the right to vote, regardless of the fact that, in many parts of the United States, this was still an incredibly unpopular move. In 1924, after years of being forced into the shadows, the first homosexual rights organization, The Society for Human Rights, stepped out into the light. True, it didn't last long (the group was soon broken up by police forces), but it was a giant step in the right direction.

Incremental gains have been made by both groups throughout the twentieth-century. After WWII forced thousands of women into formerly 'men-only' jobs, the idea of women doing something outside the home started to take off. Detailing all the amazing achievements, the risks taken, the sacrifices made during the intervening years would take 100 op/eds. Suffice it to say that I am proud to say that because of the crusading women of the last few decades, the last generation or two of women growing up in this country have rarely if ever had to question whether or not they would be able to pursue their dreams, their goals, and their passions due to something as fundamental as their gender. Hundreds and thousands of women who came before them, and who spoke out against the way they were being treated, have given them a place in society that even fifty years ago few women would have dared hope for.

The gay-rights movement has gained ground, too; that same generation of young people who are daring to dream for more are overwhelmingly in favor of equal rights in all things, including marriage, for gay men and women.

But here is where the story of women's rights and gay rights diverge; while both groups still face discrimination, while neither battle has been "won," only gay and lesbian individuals are still being subjected to a legally-enforced brand of second-class citizenry. Whereas our young women are being told to shoot for the stars, that there is no glass ceiling anymore, that they can be and do anything if they put their minds to it, gay and lesbian individuals are hearing a different message: you can live your lives the way you like, but only up to a point.

In 2010, would you be willing to look at more than half of the people around you, your mothers, sisters, daughters and friends, and tell them that they should continue to put up with a "less-than" position in society? If the answer is no (and I hope it is), keep in mind that the gay individuals who are asking to marry are also sisters and brothers, daughters and sons, loving parents and loved children; would you tell them, then, that they are not as good, not as deserving, not as worthy of equality? If it was your friend, loved one, or child, could you like him or her in the eye and say "this right isn't for you?"

This isn't a problem being fought in distant courtrooms and the halls of justice for a group of unknown people, this is a fight being fought just down the street, in your local public high school, by your friends, neighbors, and family members. We have to stop thinking about gay and lesbian individuals as a group of "others" and start seeing them as they are - people just like us, living the same sorts of lives as we are, with the same hopes and dreams for themselves.

If the struggles of the women's movement have taught us anything, it's that there's no limit on what an individual can do when given a real chance. But until we give them those chances, tell them they're deserving, allow them to be equal, we'll never know just how much we're missing.

 
 
 
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06:28 AM on 01/16/2010
Most women in developed countries today have a relatively comfortable life, so sometimes we forget gender inequality is still affecting many many women and men. What's sad is some of us do not appreciate early feminists' endeavors as if being associated with those feminists would somehow diminish our femininity .
05:05 AM on 01/15/2010
I see this as another example of the gay rights movement attempting to hitch a ride with another cause.
Women's rights is not gay rights. The issues are different. I see this as an attempt to enhance the legitimacy of the gay rights movement by association.
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proggirl
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10:53 AM on 01/15/2010
The gay rights movement is legitimate, whether you choose to see it as such or not. Gay rights are related to privacy rights, property rights and employment rights, the same as the rights of any disenfranchised group. the correlation is clear to anyone not blinded by fear and H8.
02:49 PM on 01/15/2010
Why is it that you are unable to disagree with someone without having to throw in abusive terms like "hate"? Don't tell me what I feel. I'll tell you what I feel. They are my feelings, not yours. Since you are so concerned with rights, what about my rights to own my own feelings and not have someone else tell me what my feelings are?
05:06 PM on 01/14/2010
I have been pondering whether the animosity directed toward gay men is not actually based in misogyny. It appears much of the anti-gay rhetoric uses terminology that is designed to cast gay men as having "feminine" attributes, which is intended to be considered as a slur. The focus of the ongoing same sex marriage debate and the Prop 8 trial seem to be more on "gay" marriage and "gay" partners and "gay" activities. However, women in same sex relationships are not being targeted in the same way. It's almost as if a man could do nothing worse than exhibit "feminine" attributes. There are many examples, but one seldom hears a lesbian described as "not a real woman" but gay men are often described as "not real men." The message being: that in this culture, nothing is worse than being a woman. As a second-wave radical feminist, I was so hoping we'd be past all this by now. Sadly, apparently not.
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05:25 PM on 01/14/2010
I think there's much in what you say. Those attitudes about gay men (here, anyway) go back to a time when American women were legally second-class citizens. I'm sure some of it is holdover of stereotypes; I'm equally sure - make that, I know - some people still hold such attitudes about women.

I remember not too many years back, a beer company was considering an ad campaign directed at women, because, as the marketing "genius," behind it said, "They drink beer, too...just like real people."

AAAARRRRGGGGHHHH!
09:27 PM on 01/14/2010
As a straight male, I think that there is something to what you say. Straight guys will "laugh off" lesbians with a wink and a nod but may get nasty when it comes to gay men. Based upon what I have observed, some straight men seem to think that it is a disgrace to the male genitalia to not go around making babies, as if that "proves" something.
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03:51 PM on 01/14/2010
Why can't our country GROW UP and treat us all as EQUAL SOULS instead of basing it all on genitalia? Intersex people cannot get married because they don't fall into NUT or BOLT.

NUT, BOLT, BOTH, NEITHER, INDETERMINANT - they ALL have a freakin' soul-spirit-consciousness-whatever-you-wanna-call-it. And they ALL deserve to have equal protection under the law as taxpayers.