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Larisa Alexandrovna

Larisa Alexandrovna

Posted: May 16, 2009 01:51 PM

Cheney MVP of the GOP?


Apparently political suicide is a surest way to become MVP in the GOP these days, at least according William Kristol anyway:

[Cheney] made himself the Most Valuable Republican of the first four months of the Obama administration (ably assisted by a few bold denizens of the Hill like the ranking Republican on the House intelligence committee, Pete Hoekstra).

Since when is attempting to stay out of prison for crimes against humanity a selfless act of heroism? Does Bill actually think that Cheney is being entirely selfless for the Republican cause? No wonder Republican beloved Ronald Reagan called Bill and his pals "the crazies in the basement." I always find it amusing that the current base of the Republican Party can continue to claim a love-affair with Reagan, but still fully embrace the lunatics that Reagan laughed at.

Another hero in his brave defense of torture, according to Kristol, is Pete Hoekstra. The very same Hoekstra who had strange meetings with Iran Contra arms dealer Manucher Ghorbanifar. I had always wondered if Hoekstra went on behalf of Cheney to help "fix the facts" around yet another war. Perhaps while they are defending torture so bravely together, they might answer that question?

Apparently Hoekstra is also defending Cheney's position on torture out of selflessness. Yes, the GOP is packed wall to wall with heroes like Cheney -- who never went to war, but was more than willing to send others to die for his lies.

Hoekstra spends most of his time attacking the Speaker of the House these days and for political reasons, instead of actually doing his job. Perhaps if Hoekstra had been doing his job all along, he would not have made a fool of himself by publicly claiming that WMD were found in Iraq. Let me remind you:

GIBSON: I'm really confused about this. You had to pry this information out of the Department of Defense, evidently, and they're in the business of trying to convince us that Saddam did have WMD. So why was it like pulling teeth?

HOEKSTRA: Well, I'm not sure of that. That's one of those questions. Obviously, what is happening here, John, is that they see that WMD is a threat to our front-line troops.

So perhaps the answer to that question is buried in, we need to make sure we get a hold of all of these weapons. We have found 500, and we need to get a hold of all the other ones that we think may still be in Iraq because they do pose a threat to our front-line troops.

By all means Mr. Kristol, do send more such "bold denizens of the Hill" my way. Anyone who defends torture is going to be fairly easy to discredit and quickly.

 
 
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Nomccain
01:54 PM on 05/18/2009
Cheney simply represents the lack of "class" in the Republican party by hanging around and criticizing everything this administration does. He also illustrates just how desperate the Republicans are to try and justify the crimes they're guilty of. In the end, Bush just went away like old Presidents are supposed to do, but Bush's head man, Cheney, just hangs around like the guilty man he is and tries to incite division, suspicion, and fear. This man should, by all rights, be put in Jail or forced to return to Wyoming to talk to the wildlife. Perhaps they'd believe the jerk. As it is, he's destroying the Republican party better than if George Duyba had hung round. 2009 depression, Bush, Cheney and the Republican party.
11:27 AM on 05/18/2009
Since Pres Obama has put the kibosh on prosecuting those associated with W & Co, including Cheney, he isn't facing jail. Pres Obama is about the future, not the past; he said so. As it stands, Cheney will never see a prison cell unless some group renders him to the Hague & the ICC.
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ProfessorDuh
09:35 AM on 05/18/2009
The Bush administration, in brief: "We didn't torture. Also, we briefed some Democrats and swore them to secrecy about all the torturing we were doing. At least we claim we did. In addition, torture works wonderfully. However, even though it worked wonderfully, we didn't do it again after 2004. Except when we did. And torture shouldn't be called "torture." It should be called 'harsh interrogation' or, better yet, 'enhanced interrogation.' That makes the deliberate infliction of agony on helpless people sound like something nice."
12:09 PM on 05/18/2009
Since our "brave" ex President and ex-VP claimed that the US does nor torture by redefining waterboarding as not torture, I think it only incumbent upon them, being as "brave"" as Bush's AWOL and Cheney's 5 deferments, to step up and volunteer not to be tortured by being waterboarded. But let the Syrians or the Egyptians do the waterboarding to remove any doubt as to the validity of the non torture. Come on Bush-Cheney be a man not a right wing cowardly chicken hawk.

P.S.Bush-Cheney did NOT keep us safe b/c 9/11 happened when they were asleep at the wheel after having several warnings beforehand. I don't see the killing of over 2700 Americans as keeping us safe on their watch. Guard soldiers are executed for sleeping on their watch.
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realpolitic
GOP is full of sound and fury, signifying nothing!
05:32 AM on 05/18/2009
Voting against torture is part of what the country voted for when we voted for Obama. The media still speak to Cheney as if he is an oracle. They should speak to him as a man who has been wrong about every major policy statement he has made, like the fact that Saddam had WMD and ties to al Qaida. They should speak to Cheney not about what he believes, but about what the facts are.
12:36 PM on 05/18/2009
I would rephrase that as "speak to Cheney not about what he believes or thinks, but about all his failures during the 8 Bush years." And they should not give him a pass or such things as WMDs, Iraq-Al Qaeda links, Osama bin laden on the loose and keeping us safe at home -all of which he and Bush failed miserably on. Liars must be confronted by their lies and held accountable not passed over.
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realpolitic
GOP is full of sound and fury, signifying nothing!
08:28 PM on 05/18/2009
Yes, they gloss over it as if he never made those blunders.
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SgtMac
Hail Azathoth!
01:02 AM on 05/18/2009
WMDs are a threat to our front line troops in Iraq? Really?
When I got to Iraq (Dec '04) our cavalry unit received training from the regular Army unit we were replacing. One of the first things they told us was to stash our gas masks in our duffle bags and leave them there. The reason? There were no chemical weapons for the local insurgents to use against us. And also seeing gas mask mights scare the daylights out of the Kurds, having dealt with Chemical Ali and all.
Why is it that those who are the most gung-ho have never been in combat?
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dems08
2012: 60 US Senators / 218 House Seats
12:50 AM on 05/18/2009
Cheney "is attempting to stay out of prison... "

Hardly.

Cheney wants the investigations to begin, and he can't wait for his fall partner, gw, to get hauled off to prison.
08:24 PM on 05/17/2009
I rather sing Dick Cheney is the OPP of the I.C.C.
The International Criminal Court.
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dianhow
former Repub till W
04:48 PM on 05/17/2009
Cheney HAD HIS TIME IN office. He blew it - big time. Voters said GOODBYE - GO AWAY.
NO other past vice Pres. has ever tried to undermine a new Pres .
Wost part is that the Pres is struggling with a crisis- much of which Bush / Cheney created.
Yet the corp owned gutless news media keeps giving Cheney air time to lie and misinform.
I hear no tough follow up questions- They all cower to Cheney'. Are they are scared of this guy or what.
It's sickening.
08:26 PM on 05/17/2009
No war crimes trials? You're willing to let him go live on a ranch in luxury after what he's done?
01:59 PM on 05/17/2009
yawwwwn

We all know Cheney is a bad guy.
What about prosecution? Who is in charge of that?
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jsgaetano
Semper Fidelis Tyrannosaurus!
12:05 PM on 05/17/2009
I love seeing the Goopers tie themselves to Cheney.

If he gets prosecuted for torture, they will sink along with him. Not that they can actually be discredited any further- they've long since hit rock bottom and started to dig.
11:19 AM on 05/17/2009
Absolutely.
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01:44 AM on 05/17/2009
I know this may be slightly 'off-topic' but I've long had an idea - having studied military history and war for the best part of 25 years.

I think it should be written into the contract of every politician (anywhere in the world), a clause which states clearly and unequivocally, that if they choose to run for office their first born child MUST join the military and serve in a combat unit.

I wonder how many of them would then prosecute wars of aggression knowing THEIR child would be the first to go fight in that war?

Itchy.
08:54 PM on 05/16/2009
nice work...
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Gidster
Not so much Liberal as I am anti evil.
08:42 PM on 05/16/2009
Cheney is a hero to the GOP, because they all reside in some bizzarro upsidown world where cravenness, lying, and warmongering is heroic and defending the Constitution and the rule of law is "Unpatriotic", or "Sympathizing with terrorists"!

They spend hours upon hours each day trying to shift the consensus reality to their view, they are spending millions to attempt to shift blame onto Pelosi!

The sooner we root out the appeasers in the media, the talking head apologists and the perpetrators and enablers of war crimes, the sooner we can move forward as a nation!
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Pupadup4oBama
06:17 AM on 05/18/2009
Well said, Gidster!
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SamEllison
I feel so clean!
08:16 PM on 05/16/2009
Pete Hoekstra took Porter Goss' s place as one of the Eight Members of Congress to be briefed not only about the enhanced,read torture, interrogation techniques but also about the unlawful wiretapping that the criminal Bush admin was performing.

In other words, he is as culpable for prosecution as the others.

As well as all the other things we don't know about yet!