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Apple Says It's Not Tracking Location: Look at This Map and Judge for Yourself

Posted: 04/27/11 11:12 PM ET

In a statement issued Wednesday morning, Apple said "The iPhone is not logging your location. Rather, it's maintaining a database of Wi-Fi hotspots and cell towers around your current location, some of which may be located more than one hundred miles away from your iPhone, to help your iPhone rapidly and accurately calculate its location when requested."

Apple CEO Steve Jobs and other executives also talked about the incident with All Things Digital blogger Ina Fried and with the New York Times. Apple admitted that there was a "bug" in the software that kept the file for too long and prevented users from keeping the data from being collected when turning off location services. Jobs insisted to the New York Times that "We haven't been tracking anybody" and added, "Never have. Never will."

Alasdair Allan and Pete Warden, the researchers who originally found the file on their phones, praised Apple for fixing the problems but commented on the O'Reilly Radar blog that "Apple doesn't address our claim that this reveals sensitive information about your travels. At this point we're just relieved to get an explanation and a fix."

Call it what you want, but I had an iPhone with me on a bus trip recently from Boston to New York and as you can see from the map below, my route of travel was tracked. Sure, the phone didn't report my exact location, but it did give an approximate location which could be used by curious spouses, divorce attorneys, snooping bosses and others with access to one's phone or a computer synced to the phone to find out where someone may have traveled. Not shown is a detailed map of New York City which displays my approximate locations around the city during my two days in the Big Apple.

If you have an iPhone and a Mac you can download your own copy of iPhone Tracker. Click here for my previous coverage of the tracking issue.

 

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laterthanyouthink
My snark font is: ON
03:25 PM on 04/29/2011
"The walls have ears."

"No we don't!"

(cold war joke)
09:31 AM on 04/29/2011
"Alasdair Allan and Pete Warden, the researchers who originally found the file on their phones..." -- Not counting the guys who explained what the file was in “iOS Forensic Analysis for iPhone, iPad and iPod touch,” a book published in December 2010. Allan and Warden deserve credit for sensationalizing the issue, not finding it.
https://alexlevinson.wordpress.com/2011/04/21/3-major-issues-with-the-latest-iphone-tracking-discovery/

Also: http://www.gottabemobile.com/2011/04/26/apples-not-spying-on-you-youre-spying-for-apple/
02:16 PM on 04/28/2011
Certainly looks like covert GPS tracking to me.
01:30 PM on 04/28/2011
Why not blame the folks who made apps available to easily display maps of the locations? I mean, few would be able to use the data without it. Also, why not just encrypt your backups? I understand the importance of privacy, but really, for the majority of people out there, why so worried about this cell phone location log? There are thousands of other ways to track you without it.
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ProgressivesLoveAmerica
Former disciple of Mises, Hayek & Milton Friedman
01:29 PM on 04/28/2011
The funny thing about corporate information gathering is that it COULD also be used to track you.

That makes it really difficult -if not altogether IMPOSSIBLE- to tell which is being done to you.

The truth is that it's really useful for both corporate marketing purposes as well as the police-state initiatives that George W. Bush instigated.
12:28 PM on 04/28/2011
Am I the only one to think that resistance is futile? There is too much money involved in making this feature commonplace.
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Jason N
Proud Firebagger Lefty
01:29 PM on 04/28/2011
Lol, see the South Park episode last night?
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laterthanyouthink
My snark font is: ON
03:32 PM on 04/29/2011
I'm afraid you are right.

I decided to stop fighting Microsoft years ago.

So, look on the bright side.

I kinda like targeted advertizing! I like it when Amazon suggests stuff that actually interests me and I had no idea existed. My GPS even pops up coupons when I get near a business that might be of interest. Well ... creepy ... but ... OK ..... I'll go with it.

It's a little disconcerting when the Charmin ads pop up .... well .... when you might .... ah ....

What I really do not understand is all those ads targeting male .... well, I can't figure out how they could tell over the Internet ... never mind.
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mediamarv
1-2-3 Is this thing working?
11:56 AM on 04/28/2011
How did you access that map??
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Larry Magid
12:34 PM on 04/28/2011
I generated the map on my Mac using the iPhone Tracker program provided by the researchers. I just updated the post with link to where you can download the software. It requires a Mac.
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03:33 PM on 04/28/2011
So I guess my iPad is traced too?
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mediamarv
1-2-3 Is this thing working?
03:35 PM on 04/28/2011
Great, thanks. I have downloaded it and I am anxious to see the results.. especially since I am about to visit GA and my relatives who survived the storms.
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Robert Turner
News? I hurt the news.
11:42 AM on 04/28/2011
Good grief, Larry. Most people are completely oblivious to the copious logs their computer maintains. If I were to reveal your WiFi log-in attempts or IP lease / renews that you never realized existed, does that mean Microsoft is spying on you? If I were to obtain that data off your hard drive, I could track your whereabouts by using the DNS data from your WiFi log.

This is nonsense. It's one of those "nothing to see here" moments in IT where someone found something and, ill-intended or not, wrote about those findings in a way that made it seem larger than reality would otherwise suggest. There's loads of data on any computing device being collected at any given moment and unless it's a trojan you downloaded, chances are it is meaningless, only used as a diagnostic or for some simpler purpose. If I hack your iPhone, trust me, the last thing I care about is where you ate lunch.
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Mitchman57
I might be indecisive. But... maybe not.
02:09 PM on 04/29/2011
If I hack your iPhone, trust me, the last thing I care about is where you ate lunch.

....Unless you were an abusive husband. I trust the gov't more than the jack**ses I meet on the street.
10:50 AM on 04/28/2011
Easy enough to fix. Call the carrier, pay the early term fee, put the phone in a drawer (or sell it.) If the cost in money is too much, apparently it isn't a real problem.

The case for smartphones lies in this equation: networked data plus location equals useful information. The traffic on the network is less, the results arrive faster if the location does not need to be recalculated via gps and cell tower strength readings and if a new calculation is saved unencrypted on the phone.

Which is why we are finding that all the other smartphone makers are caching location data, though Apple, as it admits, was not purging old data.

So, there it is: a clear cost/benefit proposition. Make your choice.

Incidentally, to determine old data, some correlation of date and location needs to be saved, so it can determine what data to toss. Save all wheres and the phone need not care about when. Food for thought, privacy worriers.

Regarding your trip: yes, your phone knew you were in those locations. You ran an app and you saw your locations. Then you published your aggregated data so now I and thousands of others know your locations. If there are any consequences to this information being public, it's pretty much your fault. But, I think you're safe. I don't think any one cares. I don't. Apple doesn't. You would know if you have jealous spouses or divorce attorneys within your sphere of concern.
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MyTake
Release the Hydrogen Economy now!
12:42 PM on 04/28/2011
Ah, you forgot the GOVERNMENT here.

Let's say the NSA is putting together a "population" database which records electronic footprint of those citizens that have these devices.

Let's say that database starts with a compilation of all government records under you name.

Let's say that the Corporate State routes all of their customer data to NSA for inclusion on that database.

Now, since NSA (a remarkable evil enterprise funded on the tax dollar and reporting to The Pratt House and the House of Bilderberg (the NSA head attends their PRIVATE and POWERFUL meetings)) is pulling all this data in from all of their listening posts, satellite's, phone, fax, email and GPS and processing right down to your personal identity, EVEN YOU MIGHT START GETTING CONCERNED.

After all NSA HAD to build two new DATA FARMS in Idaho and Florida just to house all of this vast data in real time.

So let this man make his statement.

Google (Schmidt hold membership in the House of Bilderberg), Apple, RIM, Military and all of the Corporate Communication carriers route everything to NSA.

LOCATION SERVICES is a both a front and cover story used by Google/Apple and obviously a person like you laps up with the utmost efficiency!
02:47 PM on 04/29/2011
So why is it bad that the NSA has a database of what devices the public carries and where they carry them? Can you tell us what implications this carries? Unless you are being facetious and making fun of all the other crazies who are worried about government conspiracy and privacy concerns. Then hats off! Great comment!! I almost peed myself. I think Dannyo152 said it. Don't like it? Don't buy one or sell the one you have.
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inmyhumbleopinion
Vote third party.
10:49 AM on 04/28/2011
I laughed out loud when I read that Wi-Fi explanation from Jobs' PR team. They need to put tracking software on individual devices to figure out whether their network is adequate for users? If that were really the case, I suspect they could have easily gotten that information from AT&T and Verizon on a more general basis and without intruding on privacy. After all, who would know more about the user networks than the wireless carriers themselves?

Ridiculous. Thanks for calling them on their BS.
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PRONESE
Somewhat Opinionated Curmudgeon
10:24 AM on 04/28/2011
Can you imagine what would happen if the DOD decided to push "The Big Red Button" and disable civilian access to the GPS Satellite constellation?
THAT would be interesting...
More Coffee...
R/ PRONESE
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wernerholm
pushing buttons
01:01 PM on 04/28/2011
Men everwhere still wouldn't stop and ask for directions.... that's what would happen!
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03:35 PM on 04/28/2011
Most of us men would only do so after many sighs from our nagavator, lol.
10:13 AM on 04/28/2011
but havent cell phones been tracking people all along with pings?
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Larry Magid
12:42 PM on 04/28/2011
Yes but that data didn't reside on an unencrypted file on the phone. This is more of a security problem than a spying issue
03:47 AM on 04/29/2011
And Apple said it will release an update that 1) will encrypt the file on the iPhone, 2) prevent iTunes from backing it up to your PC, 3) immediately delete the file if you switch Location services off and 4) only keep 7 days worth of data.

Tell me something - if you did a google search for all the Starbucks around you, are you going to "worry" about the security of your coffee preferences at a certain time of day? Because Google has that information.

I suggest you read Macworld's explanation of how Assisted GPS and location technology works before making hay over this "security" issue.

http://www.macworld.com/article/159528/2011/04/how_iphone_location_works.html

Seriously, if someone stole your iPhone or broke into your Mac/PC, the LAST thing a potential thief would be the locations of WiFi hotspots and cell towers near where you've been.

They might be interested in the your Contacts, your incoming/outgoing call list, the autosaved login to your FaceBook account via the FaceBook app, and a whole host of other things much more valuable than anonymous trilaterization data.

This "security" issue you are arguing is wholly RIDICULOUS compared to all the personally information that will be right in front of the thief without needing to jailbreak the iPhone or break into your computer.

It's like worry about the "security issues" of a thief rifling through your junk mail pile after breaking into your home. Please have some perspective.
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08:25 AM on 04/28/2011
We're slipping ever further down that slippery slope and hardly anyone seems to care anymore.
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fgbouman
Curmudgeon & Designer
08:41 AM on 04/28/2011
Yes we are, but this isn't part of it. Attack the real issues. This is a diversion.
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09:31 AM on 04/28/2011
As long as you have the option of turning it off it's not. But once you don't, then it is most definitely part of the real issues.
04:12 PM on 04/28/2011
OK, please list the "real issues" for us...
02:36 AM on 04/28/2011
Tracking is vital if you are ever in need of emergency services.
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frank day
Obama cares about all of U.S.
08:34 AM on 04/28/2011
Why not just put chips in all of our heads?

Then we can all be "SAFE"?
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03:37 PM on 04/28/2011
How about the back of your right hand? Google pg. 1004 health care law.
01:01 PM on 04/29/2011
People can send emails and make calls to let others know there whereabouts. Emergency services existed before this tracking.
01:40 AM on 04/28/2011
Any phone that tracks your location should immediately be disabled obviously lol.