Hillary or Bernie: Who Will Win Debate #2?

As the Democratic candidates get ready to face off in their second debate on Saturday, November 14, Hillary Clinton enjoys a wide lead in the race for the Democratic nomination nationally.
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2015-11-12-1447344949-1596011-HillarywmikeBernie.jpegAs the Democratic candidates get ready to face off in their second debate on Saturday, November 14, Hillary Clinton enjoys a wide lead in the race for the Democratic nomination nationally. According to CBS News, 52 percent of Democratic primary voters support her, followed by Bernie Sanders with 33 percent, and Martin O'Malley at 5 percent.

This week the Des Moines Register, reported that Clinton is looking ready to trounce Sanders in the Iowa primary.

If Bernie Sanders is going to begin making inroads in the Hillary "juggernaut," he will need to make a decisive move in this next Democratic debate. Conventional political observers have weighed in what they think will be happening with these candidates. But for a unique perspective on what will happen between the candidates and who will win this next debate in Iowa, it's time to look at Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders from an astrological perspective.

So, my astrology colleague Leslie Hale and I looked at their Horoscopes and have prepared this report for you with a prediction for the outcome of this second debate in Iowa. Let's begin by looking at each of their personalities and how they're likely to react in this particular debate.

Hillary Clinton's Personality

With her Scorpio Sun and the aspects made to her Mercury she is an expert debater, a powerful warrior, a fierce fighter, and always in control on the political battlefield of politics. If you have any question about that, check out her performance in the 11-hour Benghazi hearings before the senate. Hillary is capable of taking a punch and delivering a devastating blow to her opponents. With her Moon in Pisces she can go from appearing tough as nails to projecting a naturally empathetic, compassionate, and sensitive side to her public.

With the Sun, Venus and Mercury (in Scorpio) falling in her 12th house, we see her great propensity to keep things secret and hidden from others. Her sense of privacy is deeply embedded in her subconscious mind and naturally creates an air of mystery. Hillary will always have hidden enemies and those who wish to see her fail. She will continue to live a life where she is justly and unjustly accused.

Her Horoscope brings into play Mars, Pluto and Saturn, ruling action, power and control. This is volatile, powerful, determined and potentially explosive with a showman's edge that can act decisively, and without hesitation.

The Saturn-Pluto aspect in her Horoscope is often found in politicians who are highly motivated with staying power. (Despite losing to Barack Obama in 2008, and just like The Terminator, she said to herself, "I'lllllll be baack!"). Individuals like her, possess deep, intense, determined personalities, often afraid of losing control and not accomplishing their objective. In Hillary's case, it could cause her to be extremely watchful and even paranoid.

She is someone who wants absolute power and to be in total control all the time. This obsession and intensity gets in the way of her coming across in a warm, intimate way that creates a close connection with voters. It's a big reason why polls show her to be "unlikeable."

Her Leo/Scorpio planets give her powerful tools for accessing people and situations and the challenge will be for her to not let trivial matters distract her, cause her to become cynical in her speech or insert her ego into the equation.

Uranus in Gemini gives her the gift of quick thought (like Bernie Sanders), a futuristic edge, and the gift of being a formidable debater, but lends an unpredictable element to her emotional nature (because it squares her moon). On the positive side this square allows her the ability to set herself and others free of old past conditioning, ways and ideas.

Bernie Sander's Personality

Astrologers are at a bit of a disadvantage since Bernie's time of birth has never been published, but nevertheless, a lot can be known using his Sun sign chart. Sanders is a Virgo, the most practical of signs. That's why we can typically expect to hear details and/or facts and perhaps even figures in his speeches. He has an Aries moon that lies next to his Mars, which is a placement that stirs up his emotions giving him a reputation of being a political firebrand.

Mars rules the way he takes action, and because it's next to his Moon, gives him a passionate nature that at times can come across as a temper. As his Mars is retrograde the energy is often internalized and the powerful Mars in Aries energy can be suppressed, and he would generally dislike open confrontations. Sometimes a retrograde Mars can be construed as weak action, but like most people born with a retrograde Mars, his progressed Mars is now direct and at some point in his life he learned to take a more direct approach.

This would give Bernie the ability to fight back and "kick ass," if provoked.

His Venus and Mercury in Libra give him balance and harmony, and the desire to be diplomatic. This part of his Horoscope is why he's not someone who likes to get down and wallow in the mud as some of the other candidates. It also gives him an intellectual, cerebral and quick-witted combination that above all is fair.

Bernie's Venus-Jupiter combination gives him charisma and denotes honesty, compassion and a desire for equitability and justice for all, hence the branding of himself a 'democratic socialist.'

His Jupiter-Sun aspects give him a warm, active, optimistic and social nature. This transit is greatly beneficial for him as a politician because it shows his appreciation for law and order, his desire to act in the best interests of society, while respecting differences of opinion, all the while being conciliatory.

Interestingly, Bernie's Jupiter in Gemini gives him the gift of attracting young people, as well as people of all ages. It also gives him a quick wit and a sharp mind like his impersonation of comedienne Larry David, after David impersonated him on Saturday Night Live.

His Saturn in Taurus makes him grounded and practical as he strives for solid socialistic and economic policies that have proven the test of time (e.g. which is why he often mentions Medicare and Social Security). Saturn makes a wonderful aspect to his Neptune in Virgo, the planet of dreams. This is an important aspect in his Horoscope because it gives him the ability to inspire, and passionately talk about how he can turn dreams into reality. It's the part of his Horoscope that shows his trustworthy nature. Unlike, Hillary, there are no hidden agendas with Bernie: what you see and hear is what you get.

These descriptions give you a sense of their basic personalities based on their birth charts. But each candidate will be affected by astronomic events that uniquely affect them on debate night. Here's how each will be affected.

Hillary On Debate Night: What to Expect?

Hillary's Horoscope at this debate will be especially challenging to her, because her ideas, ambitions and goals will be opposed. She will be more forcefully confronted about her bad judgment over her past decisions such as voting for the Iraq War; and flip-flopping on her previously-held positions such as the TPP trade agreement; and the image that she'll "say anything" to obtain her goals.

Neptune is finishing up its opposition to Hillary's tenth house cusp (which rules her career) over the past year and meets Saturn in her Horoscope. This astrological aspect has brought out her secrets and her deceptions relating to her past actions, how she operated as Secretary of State during the Benghazi attack, what she knew, and whether she acted negligently. In addition, it's raised questions about her email server and whether she broke the law as well as her overall credibility since she began her campaign.

On the night of the debate, the Sun and mercury will set off a reaction to her natal planets in her Horoscope causing her communication style to be somewhat negative, sarcastic or even angry, if forcefully confronted.

Sparks could fly as Sanders confronts her over her past actions, changes in positions, suggesting that they speak negatively about her character. If she feels trapped, she will then go into "fight" mode with him. This is when Hillary will be tested in a battle of wills with Bernie Sanders.

Her Horoscope shows the potential of breaking off a relationship with a rival in order to be free, on center stage, unencumbered. So, she could decide to attack Sanders and engage him in a fight, as a way of eliminating him as a competitor. However, if she adopts this aggressive strategy, she's likely to be the one who ends up bloodied, and "feels the Bern!"

Bernie on Debate Night: What to Expect?

In contrast to Hillary, Bernie has some extremely positive astrology happening in his Horoscope during this debate, giving him an opportunity to best her. In the first debate he passed on a great opportunity to defame her when he famously said, "The American people are sick and tired of hearing about your damn emails."

This debate gives him a second chance to take the gloves off and clearly explain how he, and his policies differ from Hillary. His positive astrology will allow him to communicate that he's a wise, and trustworthy leader who can bring transformation to America. He can make an even more powerful case that he is not an establishment candidate like Hillary who can excite the Democratic base, guarantee a large voter turnout, and lead a revolution to transform the country with his progressive agenda (i.e. raising the minimum wage, free college tuition, guaranteed maternity leave for new mothers, single payer healthcare for all, et. al.).

Sanders will be formidable opponent, controlled and relentless - not shaken by any attacks or innuendos by Hillary. He will be seen as being someone not to be trifled with and to be taken seriously. Look for him to do a better job of explaining what it means to be a Democratic Socialist (as he did in the Wall Street Journal). His fortunate astrology will give him the ability to reach debate viewers on a deeply powerful psychological level and move them to his camp.

With Mars making a powerful aspect to his natal Mercury, ruling speech and communications, Sanders will be coming across in a spirited and feisty mood, perhaps even causing him to show nervous irritation, quickness to respond. He will have plenty of mental and verbal energy, which could turn into righteous anger if provoked. It would be a mistake for Hillary to take a shot or make a misleading comment about Bernie as she did when she used his "Let's stop shouting" remark at the first debate to call him sexist.

It's the wrong debate to pick a fight with Bernie Sanders. As long as he does not come across as aggressive he will be able to sell his points in a strong and effective manner. Look for him to be in control and feeling determined and powerful!

Prediction: Expect strong interaction, challenges and even hostility between Hillary and Bernie. If Hillary picks a fight, there will be blood. She will "feel the Bern!"

Winner of Debate #2: Bernie Sanders

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