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Why Should Anyone Respect Teachers?

Posted: 04/15/11 03:23 PM ET

Last week a young man strode into my classroom sagging his pants, flexing a chest tattoo beneath an undershirt and tilting a red cap across his scowling face.

Not like I've never seen that before -- but this was a guy I've coached for four years, a young man whose maturity and self-respect I've come to take for granted. I didn't think I'd be having to get in his face two months before graduation.

But that's how it is some times. And it shouldn't have surprised or disappointed me -- not any more than it surprises and disappoints me still when I read what politicians are saying about teachers and about our students.

Teaching -- especially in the inner-city -- is work that both consumes and isolates, and that can make it easy to forget, for a moment, what is going on beyond the walls of the classroom. Especially when the work of teaching gets a little easier, which sometimes happens with experience and enough success and longevity at a school to earn a positive reputation among the students -- and so it is sometimes jarring to suddenly have to prove ourselves all over again to someone who just isn't buying the rep or doesn't care.

Maybe teachers shouldn't have to prove anything to be respected in the first place but that's how it is, at least in this country where some public officials and others have taken it upon themselves to marginalize our positive impact and lay the inadequacies of our contemporary culture and economy at our feet.

These insults are what a thick skin is made for.

If sports fans think that buying a ticket or watching a game on TV entitles them to insult the players who've mastered the game, so then goes the logic of those tax payers and tax-spenders who've entitled themselves to pick on us. And though we might not -- like pro athletes -- get paid the kind of wages that would make the abuse seem worth it, there it is anyway and there might not be anything much we can do about it, except keep doing our jobs whether or not anyone recognizes us.

Educate this generation of children because democracy and freedom are not entitlements. Every generation must learn them and then earn them or we may ultimately lose them. And sometimes it seems we're on the verge of just that -- or maybe beyond the verge -- and that is why we should be screaming about the travesty of education dollars wasted outside of classrooms while the teacher lay-off notices pile up. Not because of the insult but because of the damage.

And as always we've got to find it in ourselves to minimize that damage -- visited upon us and our students by the economic cycle, government mismanagement, and Wall Street greed -- step up to the challenges of larger classes and fewer resources because students cannot wait for us all to sort out the politics and economics and ideology.

Just yesterday, that same young man I had to call out a few weeks ago with the sagging pants and the bad attitude handed me an acceptance letter from the state university and then put his arms around me and in his embrace was a thank you and a plea to keep helping him get ready to live up to the promise of that letter.

Our work is not done.

It never is.

 
 
 

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Bill Jones123
12:16 PM on 04/18/2011
In the nadir of the Wall St. crash, all of the conservative talking heads praised the vast experience of Wall st. executives, and how they savvy, and years of experience were going to save us all.

What was not mentioned at the time, and is now becoming apparent with the opening of the Fed's private bank books, is how much money taxpayers shoveled to these VERY EXPERIENCED Wall St. executives.

Exactly what did the level of their experience have to do with the financial rescue?

Couldn't we have paid a recent Wharton MBA 1/100 as much and achieved the same result.

Is there any connection, anywhere in this economy, between experience and higher pay.

Please, show me.

This logic CAN BE USED IN ANY LABOR MARKET AGAINST ANY ENEMY OF OUR CHOOSING.

Read Matt Taibbi's article in the Rollin Stone about the Wall Street bailout to fully understand their full court press attempt to distract the public from this recently released information.

Their tactic is to wage a war on teachers to redirect the rage of the public from Wall st. If one looks back to the origins of the TP movement it was populist, pro Main st., and absolutely anti-capitalist and Wall st.

It has been co-opted by the right to attack teachers.

Look at the recent Pew poll and public credibility. Journalists and investment bankers are at the VERY BOTTOM.

Teachers still rank near the top.
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Bill Jones123
12:03 PM on 04/18/2011
With double degrees in math and physics and a master's in mathematical physics I get the frequent opportunity to talk to professors from other countries.

I would like to share with you the comments of one Chinese woman who completed her Ph.D. in mechanical engineering from the University of Illinois, Urbana.

1. American students are lazy.
2. American students are not prepared.
3. American students are inferior to chinese students.
4. American students do not attempt to understand difficult concepts.
5. American students face no consequences for cheating.
6. American students seldom come to class.
7. Most immigrant students beat American students at public schools.
8. American students are not willing to wait for gratification.
9. American students do not bounce back from disappointments.
10. American students do not accept a grade less than an A.

There you have it. And she finished her scathing criticism with this last remark:

The USA needs me because it can't make its own.

With that I dropped my fork and said I had to use the bathroom.

The truth really hurts.
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08:28 PM on 04/20/2011
if I could kiss you, I would. this is the truth. suck it up people.
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08:32 PM on 04/20/2011
but we're not inferior...just spoiled. if we'd step up to the damn plate we'd be fine.
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granitegirl
so much information - so little time
11:03 AM on 04/18/2011
I think that societal attitudes towards education differ in Asia and perhaps some European countries. Many Americans do not seem to value education. These are observations with no links to support them.
When I see bumper stickers that say - My 8th grader can beat up your honors student - I have to wonder about the attitude of these people towards education. And I do see these or similar bumper stickers.

While many see education as a road to good employment, I question what happened to education preparing students for a common discourse.

BTW - my state (NH) passed a law 2 years ago that students could not drop out of school until they were 18 - even with parental permission. For some, alternative learning could count towards a high school diploma - on-line courses, alternative programs or schools,night school, or creative individualized activities.

Guess what - the legislature just changed that law back to age 16 with parental permission!!!
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Greg Mirsky
Riga dimd, Riga dimd, Kas to Rigu dimdinaj?
02:34 AM on 04/18/2011
American system of education heavily depends on parental participation. I compare it with one that I was educated in, with the Soviet system. We had more hours at school. We even had, are you ready, school on Saturdays. We were graded from the first grade, with report cards and everything. If you misbehaved - teacher would not hesitate to tell you and write a note to parents. We had tests, exams to take to move from grade to grade. And, more or less, you can move across the country and use the same textbook and not miss much of the material. Was it the best? Could be better. But it helped many of my friends to succeed despite failure of the Advanced Socialism. (My parents had no idea what I had for the homework with exception of rare painting assignments that mom pressured my dad to help me with).
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AZreb
equal-opportunity Independent heathen
09:54 PM on 04/17/2011
Now 74, I am one of those who has always respected teachers - not always liking them, but that is not needed if you want to learn. A couple of my children complained about one teacher who would not answer questions they had. My reply was "It is up to you to learn IN SPITE OF the teacher. You want answers - search for them in your text book, in the libaray (back then we didn't have the internet."

They found the answers and remembred them more because they had to work to get those answers. Frankly, I wouldn't have a teacher's job on a bet - too many of them are trying their best to prepare students for the world outside of school by giving them the best instruction they know how to give, but are fighting parents, administrators, classes that are too large and budget cuts. I would love to see some parents, administrators, politicians try to teach some of the students now - might be an eye-opening experience for them.
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01:00 AM on 04/17/2011
Good teachers have my complete and utter respect, and gratitude. It is not the role of teachers to take over parenting. It appears that parenting has all but gone out the door in some homes. I am shocked at what I have witnessed in schools, both in what is said and done to teachers. It is amazing that anyone still wants the job. My grandmother was a dedicated teacher all her life; profoundly changed many lives, and lived until 93. She receive numerous letters in her latter years thanking her for all she did to change their lives. Before she died, she said there was no way she could teach today's kids. I could see the hurt in her eyes that society had transformed, and not for the better.
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modeforjoe
We had the experience, but we missed the meaning
08:57 PM on 04/16/2011
Have read several of your posts and know for sure that you are a terrific teacher. But you are in the minority. Far too many of your colleagues are time-servers and much less imaginative, creative, insightful and inspiring than you. So you need to stop lumping all "teachers" together. Go after your union that protects under-performers. Your greatest enemies are within your own profession, not outside it. I know. I have seen it and experienced it for decades. You are barking up the wrong tree.
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MiddleMolly
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10:51 PM on 04/16/2011
You really think that caring, dedicated teachers are in the minority? On what do you base your opinion? Do you have or have you recently had a couple of kids in school?
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Larry Strauss
11:41 PM on 04/16/2011
Thanks for your kind words, Modeforjoe.

I'm not sure anyone knows for sure what percentage of teachers are seat warmers -- and I'm not sure anyone knows -- but I don't disagree that they are out there doing their damage. How could I? I've had to work with them and see the miseducation they inflict on our students (in fact I've addressed the issue several times in previous posts, including the one before this one--http://www.huffingtonpost.com/larry-strauss/reform-this-improve-the-a_b_845796.html and this one -- http://www.huffingtonpost.com/larry-strauss/why-teachers-go-bad_b_806231.html -- for which I took quite a bit of heat from other teachers)...

I have some ideas for how teachers might one day police our ranks -- which is a subject for a future post -- and I have certainly done my own personal share to rid my school of cynical and/or ineffective teachers over the years, not always endearing myself to my colleagues (although most of my colleagues feel the same way about the dead weight, whatever percentage that is).

I don't know what our "greatest enemies are" -- those who disgrace what we do or those who debase what we do? I'm not sure it matters, but your point is well taken.

On another note -- pun intended -- are you a devotee of the great Joe Henderson?
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free speech isnt free
A bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy
11:51 PM on 04/16/2011
Every time I read something from one of you teachers,

I learn something. (Bet you thought I would say something mean).
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Bill Jones123
11:44 AM on 04/18/2011
From a guy with double degrees in math and physics and a master's in mathematical physics.:

The last thing I want is someone like you telling me what to do. There is a pecking order in this society and I rank above you.

While I am no teacher I certainly know this: Those who bash their fellow workers are often those who know very well that their heads are ON THE CHOPPING BLOCK.

I have thought a few times about becoming a teacher, but then I steered away from it because of the holier than thou liberal arts teachers that run most public schools. They insist and adoration and obeisance from their students and inculcate a specific suspicion of anything scientific. It is in every way a war pitting the emotions of the liberal arts against the intellectual endeavors of science.

What our schools need is less of you, and more of me.

The sad thing is the pay stinks, but it is obviously good enough to keep you preaching in the classroom.

If I were to TEACH in Japan, I would earn much more than you do.

So be careful what you wish for. It may just be time to pay teachers like you, with run of the mill skills, a whole lot less.
08:13 PM on 04/16/2011
Great quote "students cannot wait for us all to sort out the politics and economics and ideology.". Which is why schools that figure out to get past the politics, will be the ones that are successful.
06:58 PM on 04/16/2011
Does anyone have a reputable source which describes in detail the differences between teachers in the U.S., their teaching styles and curriculum, their salaries and benefits, the teaching duration per day and year, with teachers in China and/or South Korea?

I've always wanted to know the actual difference seeing how it's often brought up. I've googled it but unfortunately I cannot find any solid information.
09:09 PM on 04/16/2011
Along this same line, as this article indicates, I would like to compare student's behavior, dress, respect and attitude compared to Asian students or European students. What is their attitude towards education. I think in American schools students seem to have more rights then the teachers trying to teach them. Furthermore, how do Asian schools handle students with ADD or ADHD plus other learning disabilities that teachers face every day. Last, how are teachers respected in society compared to America, in which teachers carry the "brunt" of societies problems instead of vice-versa.

I ask anyone of you that has never taught or have been in a classroom recently, spend a day and tell me what you think of teachers and what they face everyday.
A proud retired school teacher
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HamletsMill
All Myth is Astronomy
09:17 PM on 04/16/2011
I believe your questions have hit the nail on the head. Teachers today - especially in the inner city - are expected to be a parent to far too many of their students. This is not fair. If a student does not want to learn anything they should not be in school. Period. We need some kind of other approach. What could it be?
10:11 AM on 04/19/2011
In detail?

What you want is Linda Darling-Hammond's book "The Flat World and Education: ..."
It has everything you're asking and more.

And she should have Arne Duncan's job.
02:33 PM on 04/19/2011
Thanks :) I'm going to scan my local library/amazon now.
04:35 PM on 04/16/2011
The sad thing is teachers are too nice and think that this deform movement is about them. It has nothing to do with education; it is about the takeover of all our democratic system by the obligarchy for their benefit. Witness the attacks on SS,Medicare, taxes, etc. The teachers and other workers probably should have stayed out in Wisconsin and other places and gained power. Power is respected and feared. Unfortunately, at some point some workers are going to have to suffer the consequences so our system can survive. The unions particularly the teacher unions do not want to fight and sacrifice, they keep hoping that someone will rescue them. In the past, workers and civil rights had to strike, were jailed, and even died for the rights of all. If we keep giving away the store, we will be left with nothing. We must stand strong and fight against the oppression.
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06:35 PM on 04/16/2011
Very well put.
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MiddleMolly
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10:57 PM on 04/16/2011
I agree with most of your points. Much of the brouhaha against education stems from the desire, either consciously or not, of certain elements of our society to create a Third World Country here.
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McBuckwyld
04:28 PM on 04/16/2011
Because I had a teacher effect me profoundly.Harriet Swartz she made me understand she never failed a student. They fail themselves.She was one of the most wonderful people I ever meant.
avanteguard
Truth, Justice, and the American way
04:07 PM on 04/16/2011
I would love to see an experiment (although I know it would never happen) that takes 10,000 kids from a non privileged socio-economic environment, divide them in half arbitrarily, send 5,000 to a school that practices the normal cirriculum of today, and 5,000 that ONLY teaches the subjects of traditional learning, history, math science, english, foreign languages, geography, chemistry, etc...and NO political-socio-babble at all....and track the two groups to age 40.....and see the results.


My postulation is that the 2nd group(traditional) would rocket past the other group, I wish we could prove it and it become the great indictment of the present system.
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To interject reason
Time wounds all heels....
05:00 PM on 04/16/2011
That experiment has already been done...LQQk at the generations from our founding up til about the late 1950s and the generations coming out today. Your answer is all around us.
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MiddleMolly
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11:09 PM on 04/16/2011
Please...

Teachers and kids in the 50's didn't have to contend with overpowering and pernicious t.v. And, in the school district in which I was enrolled as a kid in the 50's and 60's, we had a very liberal education including social studies, art, music.

I don't understand what kind of curriculum you are espousing.
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To interject reason
Time wounds all heels....
12:27 PM on 04/18/2011
Math has NOT changed, English has NOT changed, Geography has NOT changed, History has NOT changed. now compare performance scores then and now and tell me your assertions hold water.....And as far the kids needing more cultural education that is hooey that is what parents are for you know to learn how to treat others. Schools only need reinforce what parents should be teaching in regard to behavior and respect.
06:44 PM on 04/16/2011
It would do America some good to see this comment plastered on billboards for the public to see.
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glockman
04:01 PM on 04/16/2011
"Educate this generation of children because democracy and freedom are not entitlements. "

Careful. Saying such things can be dangerous around here. Anyway. our current education system is based on Horace Mann's awful idea of educating the country's citizenry. And he formulated his idea based on the Prussian system as enshrined in Fichte's Addresses to the German Nation, in which he wrote:

"The new education must consist essentiall­y in this, that it completely destroys freedom of will in the soil which it undertakes to cultivate, and produces on the contrary strict necessity in the decisions of the will, the opposite being impossible­. Such a will can henceforth be relied on with confidence and certainty. "

Until we remove ourselves from this factory type of assembly line education, we'll never see meaningful reform.
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HamletsMill
All Myth is Astronomy
12:04 PM on 04/17/2011
BINGO. F&F. That educational philosophy led to national suicide by the Germans in the trenches in WWI and the trigger fingers of the Einsatzgruppen in Poland in WWII. Then it ended in the mass national suicide of the Vietnam War for us. Yet it still goes on. This is the problem. We are not really educating souls to have basic history, reading, math, and science skills combined with critical thinking. The system is to indoctrinate people into an Industrial Revolution process that is long gone. Endless war was once part of that process too but that is now national economic suicide. Why can't our educators see that they have been set up to be only automaton stewards on the Titanic?
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glockman
07:15 PM on 04/17/2011
"The system is to indoctrina­te people into an Industrial Revolution process that is long gone. "

It's heartening to know that others have looked into the history of education at least a little.

Our educational system does nothing to teach critical thinking, the understanding of individual civil liberty, and the concept of true freedom of thought.
03:25 PM on 04/16/2011
Mr. Strauss,

Read your excellent article with interest. You hit the nail on the head. Somehow, the reason for educating America's young seems to have gotten lost in the shuffle. It's our duty. It's our obligation. It's in the best interests of the country to educate children, otherwise the country will go out of business. That is, of course, not a problem for the well to do. Unfortunately, most of us aren't. Instead, we just throw away the poorer kids. What a waste! I propose a different way to run public education. I hope you will have time to read my paper on "Education Reform" on theamericanrevolutionnow.org. It's a non-partisan, non-profit.

Thanks,

Old Granddad
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MiddleMolly
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11:20 PM on 04/16/2011
I bookmarked your link. Thanks!
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HamletsMill
All Myth is Astronomy
12:06 PM on 04/17/2011
F&F. Thank you so much for the link! I will read it.
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01:55 PM on 04/16/2011
There has to be an enforced principle of mutual respect for all people at the school. That would also stop bullying. Tecahers are looking for "training" regarding bullying. Anyone who violates that principle can't attend or work at the school and if that means kicking out 30%, so be it. Put all the bad apples in separate barrels. No exceptions.
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dmgoss
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02:36 PM on 04/16/2011
So, basically, your solution for bullying is another form of power abuse that singles out those individuals who can't meet your criteria, then punishes them for it. Sounds like a refined type of bullying made more insidious by the fact that an adult suggests it as a means of dealing with a child in their care.

I agree, it is far easier and cheaper to exclude people instead of helping them reform their behavior to fit the acceptable mold, and a lot of your fellow citizens agree with you. It's probably why we lock up more non-violent offenders than any other country in the world.
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06:46 PM on 04/16/2011
You don't get it and never will.

At least 1% of the population are sociopaths that can not be reformed.

Bullies are cowards but they only show they are cowards when they meet resistance. I'm more concerned about the kids that are thinking about suicide because they are being bullied. You are obviously more concerned with how bullies are dealt with.
avanteguard
Truth, Justice, and the American way
03:54 PM on 04/16/2011
Namitha...You are so correct respect to the athority and supervision of the teacher in the calssroom MUST be a given and an absolute....it would automatically filter down to the interactions of the students themselves. Your second observation is also correct, those that will NOT BEND should not be tolerated in the least, so they cannot corrupt or lessen the chances of the others, as to what should happen to the non-compliant...I say put the pit bulls with the other pit bulls, and make the rehabilitation attempt, as some may see the light and if not then their fate is in their hands. Thank you for your courage in going against the coddling tendencies now inplay!