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Laura Stein

Posted: June 30, 2009 01:10 PM

Losing Bernie

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Instead of a sense of relief or satisfaction after learning Judge Chin gave Bernie Madoff the maximum sentence, this wiped-out investor is left feeling apprehensive. What now? Without Bernie to kick around, how will those he harmed get the media attention they need to pressure Congress?

Legislation is pending that would benefit victims who are being subjected to additional injury (see my previous post, Navigating Through Madoff-Land) as well as future potential victims, who imagine themselves invulnerable.

I've spent surprisingly little time since December 11, 2008, thinking about the man who caused my husband, me, and so many others such pain. Madoff is a criminal, done in by the recession, not the SEC, despite Harry Markopolos's persistent efforts. Madoff will now get his comeuppance behind prison walls, which leave no opportunity for photo ops like the inexhaustible clip of his pushing the cameraman.

Speculation about other perpetrators will get some attention if actions are brought. The paparazzi will stalk Ruth and find unflattering pictures to run. But Bernie was the media draw; his impressive skill caused the havoc and despair. Whatever help he got from his wife and sons, from Frank DiPascali and others in the firm, will be investigated and pursued, one hopes. But, really, other than a possible flurry of prurient interest if Ruth goes to jail, none of them offer the same chance for headlines.

Headlines are needed. See my aforementioned blog. My husband and I will not be affected by the most important issues detailed there. Despite having lost all our savings, we'll recoup as much as is possible given the way the deck has been stacked. It's not enough, or close to what is legally defensible, but it's something. Others are not so fortunate. We've yet to learn how the victims of Allen Stanford will be treated. It's the Wild West when it comes to financial fraud. No investor is safe.

Meanwhile, articles like Eric Konigsberg's in the New York Times, "Investors in a Competition For a Piece of the Madoff Pie", refer to "paper losses" that don't qualify for tax deductions. What's not mentioned is that the phantom money was real enough to pay taxes on, in many cases for decades. We did for 21 years. In addition, while some investors, like one quoted, are concerned about competition for what's likely to be a relatively miniscule restitution from the bankruptcy, far more in my position, who stand to "profit" from clawbacks, are on record as being sickened by the idea of monies sent back from unsuspecting investors.

I found it strange that my thoughts today, post-sentencing, have turned to how the residents of New Orleans feel facing another hurricane season. How much have we heard recently about the status of the levees? Are they safe? At first I didn't understand why I was so suddenly preoccupied by their plight and my ignorance about it. Then I saw the reason: if we've forgotten them...

Like victims of countless less publicized crimes, Bernard Madoff investors will be putting their lives back together for years to come. People are cheated, brutalized and murdered every day with far less attention paid to them than we have had. But few crimes have such broad implications. (Unless you consider those committed with the aid of a gun.) The chinks in our financial industry have been exposed. To what effect? Without Bernie as our lightening rod, I fear the storm will come with no corps of savvy engineers having done the needed work.

 
Instead of a sense of relief or satisfaction after learning Judge Chin gave Bernie Madoff the maximum sentence, this wiped-out investor is left feeling apprehensive. What now? Without Bernie to kick a...
Instead of a sense of relief or satisfaction after learning Judge Chin gave Bernie Madoff the maximum sentence, this wiped-out investor is left feeling apprehensive. What now? Without Bernie to kick a...
 
 
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land2341
12:36 PM on 07/27/2009
I am not the slightest surprised by the "blame the victims" comments on here.

Three years ago the builder we contracted with emptied the accounts and declared bankruptcy. We lost all of our savings and nearly lost the land we had owned free and clear. Yet, many many people blamed us. They insisted we had not done enough homework (we had). They insisted we must have made some mistake.

Blaming Madoff's victims, blaming us is the same as blaming the rape victim for wearing a short skirt. The other person committed a crime. That is why it is criminal. It's wrong it is fraud. They cheated. They didn't play by the rules.

This divide and conquer tactic is working out very well for those at the very top who continue to defraud you. You can keep your fingers stuck in you ears and sing loudly and hope it doesn't happen to you. You will swear to yourself and others that you are smarter, sharper and craftier and no one can get you.... Whistle louder cause we are all getting cheated and your singing keeps them dancing!
09:28 AM on 07/14/2009
There are many stories - some are victims and some are happy that people lost money. A judge appointed a "trustee" - a lawyer, Mr Picard not a nice person. He has asked in 6 months for 46 million in administrative fees. No one can bill that much and accomplish so little. Mr Madoff is finished - the outcry should be against the trustee.
Outside pressure, he setup a hardship program to expedite SIPC claims for the elderly. These people qualified, but he is using money-in, money out scheme, which the IRS doesn't use. If you pay taxes on profits, whether they are real or not, they add to basis. Then in the hardship ruling, he states that his decision is final - no appeals - even a murderer on death row is allowed to appeal. Finally, for those of you who had invested prior to 1996, you must produce your records - deposit and withdrawals, prior to 1996 - does anyone have 13 year old records. So the trustee giveth a hardship program and then takes it away.
His billable hours are minimal for processing claims and less than 600 / 14,000 have been processed in 6 months - but he stands to get up to 3% of the money he recoups - so which path is he taking?
It is time the victims and media rose up against the trustee, because he will be the lead to follow when other ventures fail and other innocent people wait for
03:17 PM on 07/02/2009
I'm staggered by the ignorant 'blame the victim' comments here. Sure, it was too good to be true, but these people were receiving statements that showed how diversified (allegedly) their portfolios were. Do poor people have the monopoly on compassion? this was a terrible thing that happened to a lot of people - it completely wiped out their american dreams. just like enron. and while this isn't as catastrophic as Katrina - people lost their homes, were violated because the government was warned and didn't do it's job (botching not one but two investigations.) I'm grateful to Stein for her relevant warnings and her honest 'telling' of what it's like on the inside of this scandal.
04:37 PM on 07/01/2009
I will address a few miconceptions about 99% of Madoff victims.My account was opened 17 years ago with $225,000 saved over a 50 year career as a meat cutter.The account balance as of 11/30/08 was $783,000.It vanished on12/11/08 when Madoff admitted he stole all the money and ran a Ponzi scheme.Madoff was a SEC approved broker with SIPC insurance.Each account,by law, is insured up to $500,000.The brokerage industry finances SIPC,not the taxpayer. There are fat cats such as the owner of the NY Mets who had as much as 300 million with Madoff but can only collect 500k from SIPC.That is the law.The 10-12% return from Madoff in 1992 was less than I was making in the market at that time.I went with BM because it was simple and safe since he was a past president of NASDAQ and his company was given a green light by the SEC.I am not greedy.I am a WW2 veteran
who worked hard all his life,saved his money for retirement.My account was insured by SIPC and I want to be paid what is due me.JustJoy7,my portfolio had 35 blue chip stocks plus options which is a diversified portfolio,not all eggs in one basket.I hope this never happens to you.It is hard.If your money isn,t safe with your broker,your money in your bank is not safe even though you have FDIC insurance.
Ease up .
03:36 PM on 07/01/2009
I hope you continue this regular column on the madoff, stanford victims, etc. and update people's stories and circumstances! Pay no attention to self-righteous posters, they are merely hiding their own imperfections!
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JustJoy7
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01:43 PM on 07/01/2009
You "victims" forgot to wear your thinking cap. When you were being educated, didn't you learn ANYTHING about "return on investment?" You all had to know that this was too good to be true, now you want the sympathy? Also, didn't you save anything? Why are all you folk flat out broke now? Didn't anyone ever teach you to never put all your eggs in one basket? This was too good to be true; yet, you put your ALL in it. SMH
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runforfun54
02:08 PM on 07/01/2009
You folks are so ignorant here. FIrst of all, let me address the "eggs in one basket" theory. Diversification is intended to protect one stock from taking down an entire portfolio, not intended to protect against a Ponzi Scheme (and certainly not one that the government had time and again given green lights to). Too good to be true? Do some research, and don't believe everything you hear ... hindsight is 20/20 ... even Markopolis -- the whistle blower says there was NO WAY for the average investor to know this was a scam. Before you throw stones, learn the facts.
03:03 PM on 07/01/2009
Actually I have learned the facts. I talked to my financial advisor at length about it, and about how he does things differently--for example with the reporting of earnings, where you receive information from, etc. However, any average investor should know that the rate of return Madoff's clients were receiving was too good to be true. I have no great knowledge about investing, but I do look at my monthly, quarterly and yearly reports from my investments and never expect to receive more month after month than average. I consider that my responsibility because it is my money.
04:20 PM on 07/01/2009
You don't get it. Madoff investors received trading slips in the mail for every (alledged)trade as well as those trades showing up on the monthly statements. So these slips and statements say that they owned, bought or sold shares, puts, calls etc. in Apple, IBM, Exxon, GE etc. Perhaps 25-35 different companys. Is that puttting all your eggs in one basket? For example, your broker puts you in 25 diversified companys and all of the stock is in "street" name, as was that with Madoff. Now your brokerage company goes belly up or you find that the broker never bought the stock. And you thought you were diversified. In addition, the prices of the trades were within the price range for that day. Get it now?

And the Madoff victims are supposed to be paid up to $500,000 by SIPC. This has nothing to do with taxpayers paying to help the victims.SIPC is funded by the Investment Banking firms, not by us taxpayers. Every slip of paper showing trades today, by any firm, show that you are covered by SIPC. Except when it is time to collect. Then they try and change the rules. Losbajos
12:33 PM on 07/01/2009
My heart bleeds for you. I have worked hard all my life and I have never had a spare dollar to invest. If I had, I can tell you I'm smart enough to not throw good money away on a ridiculous return.

You almost are comparing your predicament to the survivors of Hurricane Katrena??? That takes balls or ignorance. I'll go with the latter.
05:18 AM on 07/01/2009
I'm afraid your own greed sank you. No apologies required from you, no restitution required from us, the taxpayers. Learn to live on Social Security. (I'll bet you *still* won't have to live in a double-wide!)
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quindy
09:01 AM on 07/01/2009
Lot of people and institutions invested their money with other investment companies only to find that their money was ultimately invested with Madoff. Two big educational institutions I know of have explicitly said to their financial people not to invest with Madoff but found out later that they have been invested there. One lost some money the other lost a huge amount. Once you give your money to the financial adviser to invest it for you, you basically don't know who is on the other end of the investment. So it is not always greed that brought this calamity to people.
10:55 AM on 07/01/2009
That's not entirely true. Any responsible financial advisor will provide you with statements that tell you precisely what you have invested in. When you are routinely getting a much higher return than the market, it should set off some red flags. If you invest money, you have a certain responsiblity for due diligence.
09:52 PM on 06/30/2009
From New Orleans, thank you for thinking of us! We're down here, lovin' life, making music, eating really good food. We'd love to have y'all come down and joint the party. But it's HOT now, so best come around October for Voodoo Fest. Again, thank you!
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jeanrenoir
09:50 PM on 06/30/2009
Madoff was a tiny sideshow compared to the bankers who legally destroyed the American and world economies in the past decade. And all the millions of people who've been devastated by those jerks, who are now toasting each other on Nantucket after their winters on St. Barts and in Aspen, have no recourse whatsoever. Huge numbers of people around the world will starve and die early because of the greed of these clowns, so while Madoff did indeed have more victims than any other Ponzi scheme operator in world history, he and his victims are still small potatoes compared to these much more destructive people who have always been beyond the law.
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09:41 PM on 06/30/2009
First, I want to show my compassion for the loss of your savings, due to Madoff's swidle. Second, let me ask what you mean with "attention they need to pressure Congress" in regards of "legislation that would benefit victims?"

I have read quite a few blog posts and articles about this. Most of them try to constitute some sort of federal fiduciary responsibility, and indirectly call for compensation. Despite the fact that investors had to pay taxes on non-existing gains, I still can't see any federal liability here. Those who took their money out early, like attorney Sorkin, or Mr. Picower, actually did pocket gains. The Feds were asleep at the wheel, and could have uncovered the swindle years ago. Shame on them. Yet, trying to constitute a federal liability in the Madoff case is like making the cops responsible for a crash at high speed, because they didn't pull you over.

Why not go after those who really profited? Most of Madoff's victims are still much better off than the average Joe, who recently lost his house in an even bigger derivatives swindle. Instead of whining for a bail-out victims should organize, put some money on the table, hire independent investigators, and go after Picower&Co. and their Billions of assets in tax havens.
06:40 PM on 06/30/2009
Laura - great to have your front row thoughts and perspective. It is obviously invaluable for us all to stay focused on insisting SIPC provide the coverage they are required to by law instead of the newly concocted and unlawful version invented to protect their failed organizational administration and their failure to collect fees from the pbroker dealers who fund them. The average American would be greatly helped by understanding the SEC has also proved itself repeatedly ineffectual and disinterested in investor protection and the entire package spells future disaster if allowed to continue without serious Congressionall oversight and their implementation of solutions:
1. IRS dollar for dollar refunds of back taxes paid on all phantom income
2. SIPC levying of uncollected back fees from the private sector of broker dealers at an appropriate level to raise the money necessary to cover its obligations
3. An increase in the SIPC refund amount to the 2008 level equivalent of $500K as previously established in 1978 equaling $1.6mm for each victim of fraud applying for refunds as of 2009
4. Expanding SIPC’s definition of investor to include all investors, direct and indirect, violated by fraud.
Thank you for keeping the attention where it needs to be - on all American investors who need protection and solutions.
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Change Is Now
08:49 PM on 06/30/2009
I agree smartinvestor, that's why I suggested to her that she could turn this around and help us, write a book tell their story how this has effected she and her husband and what we should do if by chance we should want to invest. Who better else to help others than someone whose gone thru the ordeal, although mrs. Laura is an intelligent lady, she still got got by this man and we want to know now that it is all out in the open were there any warning signs, that now she can think of.
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Balzac
06:19 PM on 06/30/2009
"What's not mentioned is that the phantom money was real enough to pay taxes on, in many cases for decades. We did for 21 years."

Good point. Being victimized by fraud (which should have been detected so long ago by regulators) and paying taxes on top of it is more of a valid reason to be bailed out than just bad luck.

Madoff's investors got bilked by Madoff and by those who were responsible for stopping him. I got burned too in the sense that my tax bill won't be forgiven and it'll pay for those executive bailouts. The bail-out/bonus CEOs have to be pretty happy with their take.
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Balzac
06:13 PM on 06/30/2009
Since Madoff was seen as a complete fraud, there was less protection for investors than if he'd been seen as having had a similar level of corruption to other bigwigs of finance.

Too bad for his investors that he was so thoroughly scapegoated while the bail-outs were happening. I'm not saying he wasn't a terrible scoundrel, just that there were lots more of them who got bailed out and thereby had their offenses arbitrarily forgiven.

He really isn't comparable to Jeffrey Dahmer, nor is the 150 year sentence reasonable. Supposing people were capable of living long enough for him to serve the whole sentence, that would still be really harsh.
06:10 PM on 06/30/2009
Are we really supposed to pity these Madoff investors?
You all knew damn well that you were profiting unreasonably.
You willfully turned a blind eye because the going was good.
Please don't dare compare yourself to true crime victims - you were nothing more than a willing participant in this ongoing fraud.
You should be thankful that you are not held accountable in other ways besides losing your ill-gotten gains.
Shame on you.
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land2341
12:37 PM on 07/27/2009
I truly genuinely pray that you are never victimized and seek the slightest empathy fro anyone else.