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Ron Paul: Why Isn't He Excited About the Nomination of Paul Ryan?

Posted: 08/13/2012 11:15 am

"Human rights can only be assured among a virtuous people. The general government... can never be in danger of degenerating into a monarchy, an oligarchy, an aristocracy, or any despotic or oppressive form so long as there is any virtue in the body of the people." -- George Washington


With many Republicans excited about Paul Ryan's being selected as Mitt Romney's running mate, there is one Republican who is less than enthusiastic: Dr. Ron Paul.

Ron Paul's budget plan would balance the budget in three years and lower taxes.

In an interview Mid-March 2012, 2012 on Fox News, Dr. Ron Paul called Ryan's a timid plan that adds to warmongering and money the U.S. spends overseas and cuts social programs, like Medicare. He doesn't like that the Ryan plan might balance the budget in 30 years. Dr. Paul wants to cut overseas spending by first stopping "militarism" (policing the world), which he differentiates from national defense spending.

"In my program... I address that first [cutting overseas military spending] I want to get home so that you don't have to attack child health care or Medicare, even though those programs are bankrupt and you have to deal with them. But even in my first year of cutting a trillion dollars, I don't touch that stuff [child health care or Medicare]."

"I'm not going after the benefits the Medicare, I'm not doing that initially... I would cut the money that they are screaming about, this overseas militarism."

"I see people coming together... 67 percent people now want to come home from Afghanistan... I think the Republican lose the political argument immediately." The Republican plan is "We want more weapons but we are going to deny the elderly for their healthcare."

Rep. Paul has an excellent point.

Our liberty depends on two things, being informed and having virtue.

"Convinced that the people are the only safe depositories of their own liberty, and that they are not safe unless enlightened to a certain degree, I have looked on our present state of liberty as a short-lived possession unless the mass of the people could be informed to a certain degree." --Thomas Jefferson to Littleton Waller Tazewell, 1805.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become more corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Benjamin Franklin

 

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04:55 PM on 09/28/2012
I would give anything to see this man's name on the ballot in November. Makes me sooooo angry with the GOP for shoving him aside like he was nothing and ever angrier with msm for completely ignoring him and lying about him during the primaries. Ron Paul is the man I want to vote for. He is the man I want to represent me in the White House. He is the ONLY one that makes any darn sense. I feel soo cheated!!! I will never trust political parties or msm again (not that I really did to begin with).
08:15 PM on 08/21/2012
Ron Paul ReVolution 'Till Death!
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Shelly Jefferson
11:26 PM on 08/19/2012
Lets see,Ryan plan 30 years,not taking into account the things that will happen in that time frame.I will also be dead by then.Ron Paul plan 3 or 4 years.I am bad at math,but this is a no brainer.
09:42 AM on 08/18/2012
Ron Paul would create jobs by reducing the size of government, reducing taxes, and by reducing regulation. Once small business owners had some capital to work with they could grow and create more jobs. Reducing regulations would remove the artificial advantage that the mega-companies have, since they have hundreds of lobbyists who create the regulations in their favor, allowing them to avoid paying taxes while protecting their monopolies. Plus right now the cost of compliance with Sarbanes Oxley and taxes in general forces companies to spend billions of dollars on completely non-productive administrative tasks. Personally I think the federal govt should be limited to forcing companies to truthful disclosure to their customers, and then let customers sue if they have problems, rather than trying to 100% regulate every single thing companies do, preventing smaller companies from being able to grow.
Finally, ending marijuana prohibition by itself would create thousands of jobs, although that is probably offset by all the cops and prison workers who thrive because of prohibition...
As for the civil rights act, it's a god-given right for people to use their property however they see fit, and if a business owner wants to say they won't serve minorities then that's their decision - they'll probably to out of business but that's what they would deserve and it's their choice. You can't force morality by laws and regulations - it doesn't change people's mindset.
09:46 PM on 08/16/2012
Maybe he's not excited because Paul Ryan hasn't been nominated yet.
10:31 AM on 08/16/2012
Ron Paul 's budget stomps Ryan's to pieces. Ryan's plan will only cut about 3 billion as to Ron Paul's 1 trillion in the first year. Ron Paul is the only real candidate in this election. Obama =Romney so there is not difference except skin color. Anybody remember Romney's comments from one of the debates when he was asked what to do when we had to go to war. His responce was ask his lawyers if it was ok. Ron Paul said open up the Constitution and read it. You cannot go to war with out declaration from congress. Our current liar in chief thinks he is above the constitution just like romney does. Do yourself a favor and never vote for the lesser of to evils again. Vote Ron Paul in 2012!!!
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11:18 AM on 08/15/2012
Why would Ron Paul be excited about another lyin' politician, a washington insider & a chicken hawk?
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JohnFromCensornati
Free your mind and your ass will follow.
01:42 PM on 08/15/2012
Hint: black guy in White House. Rand could fill you in.
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06:07 PM on 08/15/2012
Looks like the mod didn't like my reply, just as well, rereading your post it doesn't even make sense.
02:37 AM on 08/15/2012
Ron Paul is the GOP's only chance to win, a vote for Ron paul as a write in is a vote for obama . Too bad the Gop keeps cheating. someone should let them know that cheaters never prosper.
01:29 PM on 08/15/2012
I'm letting them know with MY Ron Paul write in if they go with Romney. If Obama wins because of that, it's the GOP's own fault
03:58 PM on 08/15/2012
You have to check with your election board in NYS if a canidate does not request to be written in it will not count. as of yet no one has requested to be written in. if Dr.Ron Paul does not do so by Oct 15th I will have to go with Gary Johnson. Check with your board and get the word out
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Stephen Schweter
10:02 PM on 08/14/2012
I was a hard core Ron Paul fan, now I just hope Obama wins. Hopefully Obama will stop the militarism and start selling a prosperous free economy. One day I hope to see a world with out a militarized police, endless wars and the Patriot Act. A world that my children can enjoy. I think Democrats are our only hope left. Why would anyone ever trust Neo Cons again?
10:47 PM on 08/14/2012
Crosstopher, the Dems are just as bad about civil liberties Obama signed the Ndaa, banned protesting, is just as much as a warmonger, Vote for libertatian candidate Gary Johnson.
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chitowngal08
Tired of the BS. Time for real Action.
11:16 PM on 08/14/2012
And that is a vote for RR. No thank you. I like Ron Paul's ideas but I certainly think that they RR plan is going to be a disaster for this Country. Initially, it does not give anyone enough time to plan for this draconian plan. How can people in their 40-55 with no doubt, having their 26 year olds in their homes, plan for their future. This is to assume that people make $1M a year. Not happening. I am very concerned about my kids, especially the ones with kids. It is time that the path of this Country is not made by the Uber rich. They have no f'ing clue.
10:35 AM on 08/16/2012
Never vote for the lesser of two evils. evil =evil vote on precedence . Vote for Ron Paul regardless we are not alone in this fight.
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10:15 AM on 08/14/2012
Author corrects two errors: Thank you to the informed readers here for bringing two blog inaccuracies to my attention.

1) The interview cited above did not occur August 11, 2012 but appears to have happened in Mid-March 2012. This link shows a 3/21/12 broadcast date to Youtube but I wasn't able to verify that date.

2) It is not accurate for me to refer to Ryan as the Vice-Presidential Nominee as Romney has not been officially nominated by the GOP. Ron Paul has won the majority in enough states to have a 15 minute speaking slot and be on the list of potential nominees at the Tampa convention the week of August 27, 2012. There is an effort by the GOP to have the Ron Paul delegates thrown out in multiple states where he won the majority of delegates by refusing to seat them. The Maine Governor is threatening to boycott the GOP convention if the Maine Ron Paul delegates are not seated. The GOP efforts also include ignoring Ron Paul and speaking prematurely about Romney and Ryan as the actual nominees.

I have forwarded my comment here to the blog team. and requested that a) the date August 11, 2012 be deleted or corrected. b) "about Paul Ryan's vice presidential nomination", be changed to "about Paul Ryan being selected as Mitt Romney's running mate."
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JohnFromCensornati
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05:16 AM on 08/15/2012
"The Maine Governor is threatening to boycott the GOP convention if the Maine Ron Paul delegates are not seated."

The GOP is threatening to yawn about that. lol
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11:21 AM on 08/15/2012
If you think corruption in gov't regardless of party is amusing you must be laughing all the time.
01:53 AM on 08/14/2012
Obama isn't as big of a socialist as Romney and Ryan are trying to convey, and Ryan and Romney aren't as radical as the left are shouting about.

They aren't miles apart in ideology, yet many are trying to get us to believe that.
12:56 AM on 08/14/2012
I been keeping an eye on what happens around the middle east, in particular Syria. Non-intervention (as Rep. Ron Paul champions) just is not working for the people of Syria. Giving the dark storm clouds building other side of the world nothing but a shake of head, and "well it concern us" attitude benefits no one, because evil is allowed to grow undisturbed. Neville Chamberlain had the same idea as Ron Paul, and look what happened, mainland europe was swallowed (except for Russia) by Nazi Germany, and to all think that all started appeasement... There is a key fact that must be addressed (one of many) before a proper retooling of the current lead-lease program can be enacted, the supplies to topple Assad must not fall into the hands of extremists. Lastly during our revolution against England, our young nation recived help from the French and Spanish fleets
11:39 PM on 08/14/2012
First, you have no idea of what is really going on in Syria. You are just watching talking heads on television.

Second, if you believe we need to do something about Syria, why don't you head over there yourself and help out.

Thirdly, the European Union is a $16 trillion economy sitting right next door to the middle east...and we are a $13 trillion economy sitting half way around the world........why should we spend billions more of our own smaller economy to protect the Europeans...than the Europeans spend. Especially when it would be much cheaper for the Europeans...as they are right there.

Fourthly, if there was a civil war here, would you really want the Russians to come in and pick sides?

Fifthly, since you think we need to be the policemen of the world, I hope you were just as passionate about the United States stopping the genocide between the Hutu's and Tutsi's.
03:27 PM on 08/15/2012
Firstly, I agree. Depending on what news channel you listen to they say different talk abo ut issues (any issues).

Secondly, I would have most certainly would have answered the call to serve, to carry on family tradition of military service (Dad = US Marines, Dad's Dad = US Navy, Mom's Dad= US Army.) I would have enlisted at 18 (I'm 24 now) if I hadn't cerebral palsy. Also I have talked with military recruiters, I've tried to find other ways I could serve my country, I am also working on inventions that could improve life for everyone.

Thirdly, I think we should send designs for anything needed (tech wise), and possibly food.

Fourthly, The French and Spanish fleets stop the British from escaping at York Town during the 13 colonies revolution to keep the British from escaping. During our civil war the British helped the CSA (at least for awhile). Also If a hate group KKK and/or Neo-Nazi movements gained political and military power to the point where their military might surpassed ours and all attempts to both make new weapons, and/or provide man power for more troops could not be replenished because of a bioengineered air or water-borne illlness causes stillbirth (babies born dead) in 100% of births.

Fifthly, A joint international effort to make the world a safer place, and more research needs to be done better understand, and deal with these problems. We are are after all One SPECIES called humans.
11:53 PM on 08/14/2012
Are you really comparing the geo-political environment of a post-westphalian, inter-war Europe with the internal politics of a 21st Century Syria? Do me a favor...Quantify that. Try.

BTW, Chamberlain was opposed to the intervention of a nation-state by another nation-state, what Hitler was ultimately guilty of and actually caused WWII (Poland). Or, he [Chamberlain] could have been a Hitler and invaded Germany in1933, preemptively instigating WWII. In the end, Chamberlain would have been the villain.

And, you are really comparing the internal politics of a 21st Century Syria with the 17th Century politics of a British colony, which really makes no sense. None. Again, I would love to see you quantify your comparison. Try.
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12:48 AM on 08/14/2012
Paul Ryan is a joke.

I'm voting Ron Paul, even if it's a write in.
05:45 PM on 08/14/2012
If Paul is out, I am voting Gary Johnson.
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chitowngal08
Tired of the BS. Time for real Action.
11:20 PM on 08/14/2012
So, give it to RR. That is what a vote like this will be. You need to take a stand. Your favorite isn't in the running. Is that what you would do at a racetrack, when you have your own dough on the line? Well, mine is on the line, and I don't wish to give it to wealthy people, I don't care what color they are.
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chitowngal08
Tired of the BS. Time for real Action.
09:56 PM on 08/21/2012
Take a pick.  Romney or Obama.  Better think about this.  One wants to give himself a tax decrease and the other wants to stop that. This has been going on for a long time.  I don't care about the wealthy at all. I care about the people that are trying to make it. This is no Obama - that is me.
07:23 AM on 08/15/2012
I'm writing in Ron Paul as well. It is a vote for sane fiscal policy, A realistic national defense, not policing the world, and for auditing the Fed.
01:39 PM on 08/15/2012
He'll get my write-in too if he (most likely) isn't nominated for Repub ticket
The poll count at the end of the night will show that GOP lost because of the write-in vote to Paul or another 3rd party. Hopefully they will get the message
10:43 PM on 08/13/2012
It is always good to get a different perceptions on the selection of Raul Ryan as Romney's running mate. He should get it by during the convention unopposed,
10:22 PM on 08/13/2012
Paul Ryan is an intelligent person, but if you look at his voting record it will not match with his image as being budget conscious. He pretty much was a blanket vote for all of the excessive spending during the Bush years, from voting for the bloated prescription drug plan in 2003, to voting for the equally horrific no child left behind bill, and lets not forget about the bailouts as he voted for the bank bailouts and the auto bailouts.

To his credit Ryan now has developed a plan to try and tackle entitlements, but when you keep increasing the military budget which dwarfs the size of every other country and insist on policing the world, it makes it very difficult to be a fiscal conservative. That is why Ryan is not one in reality.