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Mocking Mormons

Posted: 01/28/2012 5:01 pm

Mitt Romney is many things. An entrepreneur, family man, a multi-millionaire, a politician. He is also a devout member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. In other words, a Mormon.

Horrors! Those people?

If you thought we went down this "attack Mormons" road four years ago, and it's a non-issue because voters and the media are more enlightened now, guess again.

In the last day, the tabloid website Gawker published an article, using two anonymous sources, that mocked Romney for his religious beliefs. The "charge" is that Romney converted his self-proclaimed atheist father-in-law to Mormonism posthumously.

Gawker, calling the practice "strange" and disrespectful, writes: "It's an exceedingly odd way for the Romney family to honor the memory of a man who was committed, for his entire life, to the notion that organized religion is a fraud."

In other words: if Romney's beliefs, rituals and religious practices aren't within an arbitrary sphere of normal, it's appropriate to judge him and presumably his ability to govern America.

As a side note, the practice was commonly used to convert Jews and Catholics (of which I am one) posthumously. It rightfully came under fire and in 1995, Mormons ceased the practice of converting -- after death - souls of people who belonged to religions other than Mormonism and thereby seemingly acknowledging and accepting other peoples' religious beliefs.

It's worth noting Gawker is writing about the "strange" practice four days before a crucial Republican vote in Florida. Hey, politics is dirty, I get that. And, I'm not saying that the Romney campaign isn't taking a no-holds-barred approach to attacking other candidates, especially Newt Gingrich. If you watched Tuesday's CNN debate, you know the gloves are off and that attack is the new black.

It doesn't matter where this oppo is coming from. What does matter is that in the land of the free - where the right to religious freedom is written into the First Amendment - anyone would mock the tenets and beliefs of an organized religion. Especially one that claims 13 million followers worldwide, nearly the same as the number of Jews.

Every person's religion or lack thereof can be perceived as bizarre. Catholics believe that Jesus' mother's body was taken into heaven; Many Jews hold a bris ceremony where a rabbi circumcises an 8 day-old boy in a room full of guests.

Unfortunately, this is the kind of ammo that could sink Romney's presidential aspirations come fall if he wins the Republican nomination and Americans are faced with voting for a black Democrat or voting for a Mormon.

Many people I've spoken to about Gawker's hit job snicker and shrug that they've always thought Mormonism was "weird." All you have to do is sit in a red velvet seat on Broadway for two hours and listen to the audience howling at the Tony-winning musical Book of Mormon song "I Believe" to know that freedom of religion is on permanent hiatus and mockery is alive and well. In case you've missed the well-acted, well-produced spectacle, cue the music:

"I believe that God lives on a planet called Kolob.
I believe that Jesus has his own planet as well.
And I believe that the Garden of Eden was in Jackson County, Missouri.
If you believe, the Lord will reveal it.
And you'll know it's all true. You'll just feel it."

While I understand the musical is satire and yes, I did laugh during parts of the show, what I don't understand is why voters, not theatergoers out for a night of entertainment, delight in mocking a presumably faithful man's religion, but others are just fine with fellow candidate Newt Gingrich's uncanny ability to convince two women at a time, a wife and a mistress, to love him. At last check adultery is something that the Bible condemns. And it's likely even atheists would believe that it's not a good idea to uh, bed another women while married.

If you want to talk character, look a little closer at the "strange" Mormon Romney. He has never attacked fellow candidate Newt Gingrich for his three wives and two affairs. Or for allegedly asking wife number two for an "open marriage." Or for calling his second wife at her mother's birthday party to ask for a divorce, as "strange" and disrespectful, and worthy of a Broadway musical as that may be.

Hmm. I smell a double standard. Let's get this straight. Voters think it's no one's business that a married man trying to impeach a president for sexual misconduct is himself getting it on the side?

Yet, it's fine to consider disqualifying a man running for president who is acting within the bounds of his religious beliefs?

Come again?

We have become a society of strange bedfellows when it comes to analyzing our potential leaders' personal lives . Adultery, okay. Some organized religions, not ok. Endangering the soul of a Catholic woman (Callista), okay. Converting the soul of your father-in-law posthumously, not okay. And not just not okay, strange and weird and icky.

Voters in South Carolina, a Bible Belt state, basically gave Gingrich a pass on his immoral behavior with a laissez faire I-don't-care-what-he-does-in-his-private-life attitude, giving him a 12- point win - a thumpin'-- over Romney.

If the Gawker article is any indication, we are back to - or never stopped - Mormon-bashing. By his own admission, Romney has big shoulders and can take it. But maybe, instead of judging Romney's religious practices or Gingrich's lapses of morality, maybe, just maybe, voters need to take a hard look at what this land of equality truly stands for.

 

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06:39 PM on 02/15/2012
In the 5th chapter of Acts (KJV) is recorded a most significant debate taking place in the Jewish Sanhedrin not long after their had sent Jesus to his death. It had now become apparent that their worst fears were taking shape – that Jesus would have as much power over mens hearts after his death as during his life.

A wise member of the council arose to give his input regarding what should be done to those disciples now spreading Christ. Gamaliel adviced, “Ye men of Israel, take heed to yourselves what ye intend to do as touching these men.” He cited several cases of energetic advocates that had created a momentary flurry with their causes only to fail, fade away, and be forgotten. “And now I say unto you, Refrain from these men, and let them alone: for if this counsel or this work be of men, it will come to naught: But if it be of God, ye cannot overthrow it; lest haply ye be found even to fight against God.”

It seems that herein is a profound principle. Any cause having only the energy and power of its creators and proponents to sustain it, cannot abide the test of time. Whether it is a good or an evil cause, if it is not of God it will not survive. Why the great stir over the Latter-day Saint cause? They claim to be of God. Leave them alone and let time be their judge.
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Bob Kellerman
Let's have more sanity toward each other
03:26 AM on 02/12/2012
GEE, MITT ROMNEY REPRESENTS ABT 8 GENERATIONS OF MORMONS, FROM THE FOUNDERS TO HIS OWN PROGENY
-- He projects OBLIGATION and DUTY, not ambition for the job

HE HAS FLOPPED SO MANY TIMES ON POSITIONS
That he seems to be in Mary Magdalene's old profession

HE TRUMPETED "3000 YEARS OF TRADITIONAL MARRIAGE" in a debate
--- but his great-great grandpa fled the country with the US in pursuit, due to polygamy

SO WE HAVE, FOLLOWING MORMON POLICY
--- People with history of being persecuted for their sexual differences
--- Persecuting other Americans who are sexually different and harm no one

THEN, there is the matter that Prop 8 is the result of everyone BUT mormons, according to them, while everyone knows the mormons ran it and funded it

SO MUCH FOR "THOU SHALT NOT BEAR FALSE WITNESS"
WHEN IT GETS IN THE WAY OF MORMON CHURCH POLICY, IT'S TOAST!
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Jubb3500
11:38 AM on 02/10/2012
Look, anyone is entitled to their own religious beliefs and that certainly included Mormons.
But let's set the record straight. Mormonism is more akin to traditional Greed mythology then traditional "Christian" mythology.

Mormons believe that "God is an exalted man" and that as we (or at least all good Mormon men) will all become "Gods" of their own worlds (and with a pantheon of exhalted wife/godesses).

That's just for starters.

Even though Mormon's use the exact terminology of traditional Christians their underlaying beliefs are very, very different.

This is why I think there's an unease about Mormons and particularly Mormon candidates for President like Romney. The gap between a Mormon and a Baptist is much wider then between a Baptist and a Catholic.

This isn't a personal slam against Mormons. I don't think God, whoever or whatever he/she is, gives a hoot about how we worship the divine. But this difference is HUGE if you're a Fundamentalist.
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04:03 AM on 02/12/2012
"GREED MYTHOLOGY'

PERFECT!
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KaAp
03:40 PM on 02/01/2012
What a completely inane article ... it does not discuss the practices of this group or why they are repugnant it does nothing to interrogate the subjugation of women or their stance on gay rights ...
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COPESTIR3
08:04 PM on 02/02/2012
excellent comment
12:49 PM on 02/01/2012
continued:
And our mutual loving Father also sent His Son for those in the Spirit World. For it isn’t in this life only that we have hope in the Messiah. ALL who wish will be given opportunity to hear, and to accept or reject the glad tidings. All those accepting will have faith, and must be buried with Him according to the commandment, and be ordained, etc to enter the highest states of being, or Heaven. LDS don’t know who will accept, and we enjoy going up to the Temple (as early Christians and Jews did) and entering the waters (or, if you wish, the womb of mother earth, primordial sea, etc) on behalf of those we love.

(for preaching in Spirit world see 1Pet. 4:6&3:19; 1Cor. 15:19&29 (Baptism for Dead); Rom 14:9; John 5:25, etc)

This merciful omniscient God (who seeks to save all) is the God I know. He is real, and all are alike unto Him, both Jew and Gentile. His plan is wonderful and inclusive.

I hope our Catholic, Jewish, Muslim, etc friends do not believe Mormons or others will suffer forever because of differing ways of viewing our loving Father. I also hope they love me as much as I love them and would pray or do whatever they can to help me exit any suffering in purgatory, Hell, Gehenna, etc.
I hope we love each other as children of the same God, no matter how we view Him/Her. : )
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12:19 AM on 02/01/2012
Wait....so accurately stating what the Mormon church holds as revealed truth is "mocking" it?
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12:01 AM on 02/01/2012
"What does matter is that in the land of the free - where the right to religious freedom is written into the First Amendment - anyone would mock the tenets and beliefs of an organized religion."

Yep, that right to mockery is written right in there. Anyone can organize their religion, and anyone can mock anyone else's religion. (Heck, they can even mock their own religion if they want to.).

It's called "Freedom of Speech".
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COPESTIR3
08:49 PM on 02/02/2012
excellent post
05:11 AM on 01/31/2012
I hope my last comment makes it....if not, thank you again for writing this article. As a LDS I'm really feeling the hatred in our Country. I thought we had grown past such things....

One question we should ask ourselves is: Are humans capable of intentionally being dishonest in order to stir up hatred against a religious minority? OR, is it the Mormons who are not telling the truth about who they really are and what they really believe? Could it be that Mormons, who are largely educated, female, brown skinned, etc, could it be that beneath that kind exterior they are all “sexist” “white supremacists” who are so moronic and foolish as to not even know what their Church really teaches and that their scriptures have all been proven false? (I’ve been accused of all these things). Or, for the more subtle hater, it’s “they control the banking system,” “they are trying to take over the Country and make a theocracy” they appear nice, but I lived in Utah once,” (some have learned that making a movie showing minorities “breeding like rats” doesn’t work so well anymore, so they tone it down a bit)

I think history bears out that fact that people really do lie about Mormons, and the idea that Mormons are really lying about themselves, and what they believe is as silly as claiming that atheists lie and say they believe in God to get people to be atheists... : )
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KaAp
07:09 PM on 02/01/2012
When you stop
1.Interfering in the civil rights of other people as in Prop 8 in California then maybe we can talk
2. When you take care and love your GLBTQ children that walk around on the streets homeless in SLC
3. When you stop appropriating Je wish symbols and stop posthumously baptizing our families (see your 1995 mediated agreement which you broke and then the new and improved 2010 agreement which seems to have been broken).
4. Add to that lying.f.o.r.th.e.lo.r.d and of course the White Horse Prophecy
After all of that is rectified then lets get some cheese with your huge whine ...
05:07 AM on 01/31/2012
I really enjoyed this article and appreciate the thoughtful honesty. As a Latter Day Saint I'm really feeling the hatred out there, and it is surprising that we are still like this after all that we should have learned from our human foibles and holocausts, and genocides.

I would like to add that Baptism for the deceased is a Biblical practice and several Christians groups reportedly still participate in it. It does not make anyone Christian or members of the Church of Jesus Christ. It is not unlike praying, lighting candles, etc for the dead etc It is an act of love, burying for new life. It can do no harm, and, as we are all children of the same God, it just might help. Feel free to perform any Jewish, Catholic, Evangelical etc rituals you wish on behalf of my ancestors, even circumcision if you want : ). I have no fear that it will hurt anyone, God only will decide our fate.
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ellenell
03:17 PM on 02/01/2012
And may I add in another way, that it is those, for whom the baptismal ordinance is performed, may choose to accept or reject. It is there for them if they embrace it, or not if they choose otherwise. There is always a choice in God's plan for man.
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KaAp
07:11 PM on 02/01/2012
However as you well know you ENTERED into a MEDIATED agreement with the J e wish people because you baptized Jewish families and said in the 1995 agreement that you would stop and did no such thing. Instead you went right back to doing it rationalizing all the way ... and the 2010 agreement ... well ... we see what you think. http://www.jewishgen.org/infofiles/ldsagree.html
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KaAp
09:05 PM on 02/01/2012
Yes. too bad you made a mediation agreement which y'all violated .. http://www.jewishgen.org/infofiles/ldsagree.html
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COPESTIR3
07:42 PM on 02/02/2012
You demonstrates a disrespect for the wishes of Jews. This lack of respect, empathy and disregard of the suffering is one of the reason you feel the "hatred out there." I content it is not hatred, but frustration of the lack of respect and regard for the wishes of religous groups other than Mormons.
12:16 AM on 01/31/2012
Of course Romney has attacked Newt. The SuperPacs are what they are and serve a purpose. With spending near $12million and 5x more than Newt, Romney's loose relationship with the SuperPacs is a joke. You are very very wrong. The nastiness is there and nothing about being a Mormon is changing the nasty politics. It will come back on Romney and with a vengeance.
10:46 AM on 01/31/2012
I'm not plugging for Romney or anything, but a poll in Florida showed that Newt had run the most negative campaign.
01:47 AM on 02/01/2012
This is not the case at all. Romney SuperPacs spent 5x that of Newt and that amounted to over $12million with thousands of ad placements. They were all negative ads against Newt for the most part. This is being discussed in articles and talk shows. It is hardly a secret. It has been viscious by Romney. Yes, Newt has done a little, but the difference is amazing. This is the result of the Citizens United decision by the SC.
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COPESTIR3
09:11 PM on 01/30/2012
I think it best to be respectful of an individual's religious beliefs. That how one worships is a private affair between the individual and the higher power. I think it best to focus on policy. Would Romney afford that same level of respect to Gays and Lesbians? Would he focus on who they sleep with and how? Would he fight for their civil rights? Would he support things like Prop 8?
10:45 AM on 02/01/2012
As I have explained to you elsewhere, his actions as governor answer these questions so I am not sure why you keep restating the same strawman arguments over and over again.
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COPESTIR3
08:29 PM on 02/02/2012
As I have explained to you elsewhere, I am of the opinion that he lacks capacity to support and defend the Constitution of United States, if to do so would go against church directives. I am not sure why you have the need to keep stating that this is a straw man argument. It is my opinion. And as protected under the Constitution I can say it as many times as I want. and conversely you can lecture and explain all you want. I guess you haven't had folks disagree with you much?
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COPESTIR3
08:52 PM on 02/02/2012
Because this is my belief. Just like you have to repeat over and over.
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ellenell
03:29 PM on 02/01/2012
He has and will continue to support gay rights. I don't think bedroom activity is on his schedule. THose things are quite different than what prop 8 was about. Just ask President Obama.
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KaAp
07:12 PM on 02/01/2012
Cut it look at all the beautiful GLBTQ children whose parents have thrown them to the streets in SLC ...
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COPESTIR3
08:28 PM on 02/01/2012
I have concerns that he would not support and defend the
constitution if to do so would counter directives from church authorties. Would you?
12:03 PM on 01/30/2012
The beliefs of the Mormon church are no more strange than the beliefs of other churches; which is to say that they are very, very, strange.
11:52 AM on 01/30/2012
For Christians who believe in the Bible, the practice of "baptism for the dead" (or providing any earthly ordinance on behalf of one whe has passed on) is mentioned (1 Corinthians 15:29). So, while some moderns think it strange, it is not new. An ordinance, like baptism, is not synonimous with 'conversion'. Agency always allows for an inidividual to accept an ordinance like baptism and the covenenants involved, or not --on this side of the veil for those living and for those who have passed on. Providing an earthly ordinance for one, who has passed on and did not have that opportunity, in no way assumes that it is automatically accepted by that person in the after-life.
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KaAp
07:13 PM on 02/01/2012
Yes but alas you have an agreement which you have continually violated since 1995 to leave our families alone ... http://www.jewishgen.org/infofiles/ldsagree.html Do you really think we are going to trust your 2010 new agreement because you just could not keep your hands off of our families?
Did not think so ...
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COPESTIR3
08:32 PM on 02/02/2012
As a Mormon converted to Judaism, I don not want to be baptized . Dead or alive.
11:21 AM on 01/30/2012
In re:baptism for the dead. 1) Of course it is "without their consent". Ever try to get into a conversation about religion with a person who died in 1720?
2) It is NOT conversion to the Church; they are not hereafter considered to be Mormons, listed on the rolls or asked to pay tithing and take part in service projects. See John 3:5. It is a simple service performed for those who did not or could not do it for themselves. Compare proxy marriages when one of the partners is not available at the moment, serving overseas for example.
3) In general, though not always, it is done for deceased family members. I myself for example performed the service for the deceased mother of a close friend, at his request. Being male, he could not do it but had to find a woman to do this for him, and for her.
The person receiving the ordinance has free agency; he/she may accept or reject it. But without it? Again, see John 3:5 and Corintians 15:29. And yes, Mormons do believe and live by the Bible to the best of thier ability.
12:17 AM on 01/31/2012
Huh?
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KaAp
07:15 PM on 02/01/2012
They have a history of posthumously baptizing Je wish dead ... (Anne Frank, Albert Einstein on and on and on) ... In 1995 they entered into an agreement which of course they broke http://www.jewishgen.org/infofiles/ldsagree.html ... they made a new one in 2010 but broke that as well. Could you imagine being marched into an oven because you would not change who you were only to have them posthumously baptize them (and it is not anything to do with an afterlife but their contempt for other people).
10:55 AM on 01/30/2012
The most basic question is, what business is it of anyone outside the family? Who does it harm? Apparently there are lots of busybodies who are offended when anyone does somethingbthat does not conform to their own beliefs about reality. And mybgurss is thatnthese busybodiesnarebalso people who will insist society has no business interfering with or criticizing the sexual practices people engage in. Their toletance for abnirmal behavior is strained to the breaking point by religious rituals involving people they have no relationship to.

To clarify: it is long standing policy by the LDS Church that people bringing in the names of people for whom to perform vicarious ordinances should only bring in names of their own relatives. Those who think they can tie themselves to a celebrity or historical event like the Holocaust are disobeying LDS Church rules. Anyone who defies those rules would have his privilege to perform any ordinances in the temple withdrawn.
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KaAp
07:17 PM on 02/01/2012
Hey morhole can you learn to spell? Stop violating your agreements with other people http://www.jewishgen.org/infofiles/ldsagree.html and keep your misogynistic se. x.is.t. stuff out of other people's bedrooms ... being gay is not abnormal being someone who is so tied to heteronormativity is ...