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Lauren Ashburn

Lauren Ashburn

Posted: June 16, 2010 07:03 PM

Ex-Oilman Trace Adkins on Obama: 'He's Hamstrung'

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Trace Adkins may be best known for his cowboy-style country music crooning, but in his first in-depth interview about the BP oil spill, this former oil rig roughneck and derrickman reveals he's unhappy with BP's "company man" mentality and the media's portrayal of his former profession. And he insists the president, despite his rhetoric, is powerless.

"He's hamstrung now," Adkins says. Without opening leases on the continental shelf and drilling for oil in "depths that are more manageable," he says companies are forced to drill in deeper water where the risks are exponentially greater.

But he believes the actions that led to the Deepwater Horizon well disaster are not the fault of the federal Minerals Management Service (MMS). While President Obama named a new head of MMS today after firing the previous leader for not adequately monitoring rigs, Adkins paints a different picture of the agency. "As far as the coziness with MMS...when that orange helicopter landed on the heliport, everybody's butt puckered... [MMS] had complete free reign."

So what's Adkins' solution? "There's nothing we're going to do to stop it," he says. "They don't want to come out and say 'well there's really nothing we can do about it'. They can't say that, but I can. "

We caught up with Adkins on his 64-acre farm in Tennessee.

Q: What is the advice you have?

Lift the moratorium on drilling, first of all. I don't know how many tens of thousands of wells we drill in the Gulf of Mexico. But how many times have you heard about this happening? I think that is a pretty good track record, and the chances of it happening again are even less now because they're going to learn from this and this is not going to happen again. I'm not going to say never. Chances are going to be slim.

The President was going to open up some of those leases on the continental shelf, in water that we absolutely know how to do it, in depths that are more manageable. And he should go ahead and do that, but he's hamstrung now. But he should.

As far as any advice about the well, it's gonna have to sand itself up. It's going to have to bridge over is what we call it; at some point bring enough material into bore that it will clog itself up and it will stop. Could take some time. That's what's going to stop it. There's nothing we're going to do to stop it. Nobody will tell anybody that, but I'll tell 'em. They don't want to come out and say 'well there's really nothing we can do about it'. They can't say that, but I can.

Q: What about a nuclear explosion?

God, what a bad idea. No, it's not a solution. You have an open hole going into a reservoir that is under high pressure. And if you create enough of an explosion that you cover it up with a bunch of material, it will just be a few months and that pressure is going to find its way out of there and seep through all of that material. If that's what they're trying to accomplish by blowing it up and creating a pile of rubble; I don't know what they expect to accomplish by something like that.

Q: What's your advice to BP?

Pay for your mess. That's' all they can do. They're going to have to pay for the mess and probably change their name. They've pretty much soiled BP at this point.

Q: Will the oil stop at some point?

Yeah, it will. It's not like an artesian well. It's not going to continue in perpetuity. If it did, we wouldn't have the oil crisis we have today. Every well we ever drilled would still be producing and we wouldn't have anything to worry about. But they do deplete. It will stop.

Q: Do you watch the coverage of the BP oil spill?

I've been keeping up with it, sure.

Q: Did your time on the oil rig make you feel closer to the story?

Yeah, sure. As a matter of fact, I was asked by the folks at Transocean [drilling contractor]...to record a video for them [that] addressed that audience there at the memorial service [May 25th]. I was proud to be asked to do that and glad to do it. It's a brotherhood out there. It's a very dangerous occupation. We all knew that and we all looked out for one another. It was a team- type atmosphere out there. You were looking out for one another. Always.

One of the things I've been a little dismayed by is that some of the coverage seems to try to make it look like some of those guys out there are reckless, irresponsible yahoos. And nothing could be farther from truth.

And as far as the coziness with MMS, I'm here to tell you when that orange helicopter landed on the heliport, everybody's butt puckered. There was no coziness. When MMS landed on the rig, everybody got really uptight. They'd come unannounced, they'd get off helicopters and start walking. They wouldn't even tell anybody what they were looking for, where they were going to go or what they were going to do. They had complete free rein. And you had to be ready any time for them to land. And we always were.

I worked on a drilling rig and derrick for 6 years- three years as a roughneck --and was promoted three years as a derrickman- assistant driller. I don't know how many wells we drilled, but we ain't never drilled a well in over 200 feet of water. So the blowout preventer was always above water. It was on the riser pipe - it was standing up below the rig floor. We maintained it, serviced it, function- tested it every week. More regularly if we thought we needed to. And that's what failed on the Deepwater Horizon well - was the blowout preventer. When a blowout preventer fails in just under 5000 feet of water: Game over. There's nothing you can do about it. The reality is that they haven't been able to secure the rights to drill where they know how to do it. So they've been forced out into deep water and the risks get exponentially greater and this is what this you end up with.

Q: Do you feel for families of the victims?

Only in last couple days have I being hearing stuff about some of shortcuts the BP company man was making out on the rig and some of the things that I heard that he demanded of Transocean. I know I worked for some tool pushers [rig managers] when I was offshore who would have looked at that company man and told him to' go to hell- 'it's going to be the end my crew and I'm not going to do it'. But for some reason they did what the company man wanted them to do. I trusted my life a lot quicker to that old tube pusher who had been drilling wells for 30 years than I did to that company man who just graduated from college.

Q: Why did you quit?

I wanted to try [singing]. In '91, things were getting a little tough in the oil field and Global Marine was starting to lay some people off. I talked to my wife and said, 'hey, you know, I think I'm going to take a voluntary layoff and let's go to Nashville and see what we can do' and that's what we did.

Trace Adkins grew up near Shreveport , La. He spent six years in the late '80s as a roughneck and derrickman for Global Marine on an oil rig in the Gulf before launching his music career. He'll be on tour with Toby Keith beginning June 19th in Holmdel, NJ. He releases a new CD 'Cowboy's Back in Town' August 24th.

 

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Tom Czubernat
Seeking answers in a time of belief
09:33 AM on 06/19/2010
It's funny how the government is so keen on passing legislation to keep me safe from myself, but stops short on legislation which would keep us all safe from man made disasters and corporate greed. I guess I don't pay enough in taxes . . . or contribute enough to their re-election campaigns.
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posttime2010
12:01 PM on 06/18/2010
So now way to really stop the leak, either the relief wells work or we wait till this oil runs out. Wonderful, and I can see why the government or BP doesn't want to tell us that. It does explain WHY the President has not been more proactive in taking ontrol of the well.

BUT, doesn't explain why he hasn't been more proactive in containment and clean up.

So, we must have oil to keep our economy going but enviromentalist have pushed us into deep waters that made the risks a thousand times higher and of course we know now the damage...so again good intentions with very bad consequences...I'm beginning to think that should be the new motto of the USA..."Good Intentions with really Bad Consequences".
04:12 PM on 06/17/2010
Yes, about the mid-80's, the oil companys had to quit drilling in the oil industry, but NOT because we ran out of oil. They pull up the rigs because there was no money in drilling domestically. We got oil for around $18 to $20 dollars a barrel the entire time Clinton was president and during that time everybody else except big oil companies had jobs. Bush came into to office and the economy was wiped out, as every cent was given to big oil charging whatever the market would bear and an unreal housing bubble market too.

Since Obama is giving everything over to big oil, American will continue to bleed jobs. We are not a nation of oil company jobs nor should we be. We have to get off oil or we will go bankrupt as a nation. The more we focus on this oil only bubble, the faster this country will head into ruin both enviromentally and economically. As Ted Dancin said, the peak will happen around 2030. We are NOT there yet, the Oil companies are merely price fixing.
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342HP
03:40 PM on 06/17/2010
How many Ixtocs/Deepwaters are acceptable? Over what period of time? I would say: none. If the government has no way of ameliorating an activity that has the great potential to go wrong, it shouldn't allow it. This has nothing to do with the Constitution, it's common sense. Besides, the potential for a man made disaster of this proportion did not exist at the time. This is a violation of natural laws, you can't wound the earth to the extent that you ruin the environment. Adkins is a certified idjit.
03:33 PM on 06/17/2010
The reality is that we have no idea how to immediately stop this well. And that is 75% of what people are complaining about. The other 25% is ensuring that BP pays for the damage, which Obama is doing his best to ensure, within the confines of the law. Beyond that what can anybody really do? As far as the moratorium is concerned, it is the appearance of safety over the substantive act. If you really want safety, tell oil companies that they need to stop taking shortcuts, pass a law that provides stiff penalties for doing so but permits the pass on the cost for more safety, require relief wells and keep people working towards enhanced safety on new and existing rigs and wells. This is once again show over actual action. Theatre is prevailing in Washington and the Gulf is quite literally on fire. And I am from Houston with a good deal of knowledge of oil/gas industry both downstream and upstream.
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nikto
03:02 PM on 06/17/2010
Absolutely nonsensical.

The scrambled logic would be funny if it weren't so tragic.

Is there a frikkin' LAW that says country music folks and rural people have to worship conservatism
and stay stupid and reactionary no matter what?

America's problem is that it is about 65% stupid.

True insight is spat upon because it reveals politically INcorrect answers, as
in, THE TRUTH.

I know there are many wise rural people out there.

Sure love to hear from a few.
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posttime2010
12:08 PM on 06/18/2010
Don't know abt wise, but I do know this rural farmer could not operate without oil, well not quite true, I do have Amish neighbors and if I had to I could take care and feed my family with that lifestyle, what about you nikto? Could you live without gasoline and electricity?
I'm all for getting off oil, but at what cost..do we throw the baby out with the bathwater?
Need to have something in place before we jump and looking at how Spain is doing with there Green Jobs, well, doesn't look good.

So an answer from a not wise rural person.
02:16 PM on 06/17/2010
The more I read about these workers the more I see workers that are in great fear of their corporate masters. Macho, these guys are not! They act more like indentured slaves then roughnecks.
12:56 PM on 06/17/2010
@Trace Adkins -
One of the things I've been a little dismayed by is that some of the coverage seems to try to make it look like some of those guys out there are reckless, irresponsible yahoos. And nothing could be farther from truth.

This sounds pretty reckless to me, and Traces later comments about the managers taking shortcuts is offered as some kind of afterthought...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/05/27/top-kill-results-awaited_n_591522.htmltml

Transocean rig worker Truitt Crawford said: "I overheard upper management talking saying that BP was taking shortcuts by displacing the well with saltwater instead of mud without sealing the well with cement plugs, this is why it blew out."

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2010/05/29/95064/oil-spill-is-taking-a-toll-on.html?#ixzz0pMxCVZxT

Many are especially concerned that two top BP executives aboard the rig, known as "company men," didn't testify last week at a joint U.S. Coast Guard-Minerals Management Service inquiry into the cause of the accident.

Robert Kaluza invoked his Fifth Amendment right to avoid self-incrimination; the other company man aboard the rig, Don Vidrine, was on an original witness list but also declined to testify because of an undisclosed illness.

Without their testimony, there's no public accounting of their decision-making,”
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Nickolette Sanello
12:14 PM on 06/17/2010
This guys logic is about as impressive as country music !! He gets his coffee at Bumpkin Donuts!! Twang Twang Twang!!
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walterblue1
11:49 AM on 06/17/2010
He is a out of touch
11:40 AM on 06/17/2010
I stopped reading as soon as he said to lift the moratorium. These people are irrational. If you can't figure out what caused the first explosion and how to fix it, why should we bother giving you another chance. Sorry, but that's like trying to send another mission to the moon during the Apollo 13 crisis. First, figure out what went wrong. Then decide whether to continue.
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propitiousmoment
the journey is the destination....
12:51 PM on 06/17/2010
Faved for pure common sense. Thank you.
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jmpurser
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10:39 AM on 06/17/2010
I love his music but he missed the boat on a few things here. Opening up the shallower water just means more drilling closer to shore. Mexico's massive gusher a few years back was in shallow water and we don't appear to have learned much from that now did we?

He is right to a certain extent that the President is hamstrung but ONLY because we insist on playing a game where we CAN'T win. We need strong regulation, stiff penalties, excellent enforcement in the SHORT TERM while we get our asses off oil. As long as oil is king we lose.

He's also right that in the short term, say 2 or 3 months, there's NOTHING we can do about this but try to clean up the little bit we can. For the most part this oil is GOING to come out, it's GOING to spread with the currents, and it's GOING to kill things wherever it goes. We can't stop it and we can't fix it. And having Obama "get mad" or "kick butt" or "take over BP" isn't going to change that one iota.

When you gamble with something priceless eventually you lose it.
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ZDuck
09:36 AM on 06/17/2010
But if Bush was in office, he'd be defending him saying there is nothing he can do so back off. All these repugs talk so tough but have no substance. Stick to singing Trace.
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jmpurser
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10:40 AM on 06/17/2010
Unfair. He said there was nothing Obama could do. He's stuck and we can't fix it. Mr. Adkins has it right.
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Bluebloodsbastardson
03:18 PM on 06/17/2010
His MMS visits from MMS officials were in the '80's way before the Bush-Cheney team gutted or suspended the regs and packed MMS with their industry lackeys from top to bottom, he hasn't been on a rig in over 20 years. He can't extrapolate those experiences to today's disaster or oil rig culture as it exists now....the future turns out not to be what it used to be Trace,I appreciate the insights he's given but they're about as relevant today as Kris Kristoffersen's would be from the early '70's when he was a helicopter pilot servicing the rigs, ie not very much at all......
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sasidechick
Math, Science, History.....The Big Bang
08:33 AM on 06/17/2010
Maybe MMS worked that way back in the '80's but when you are SLEEPING WITH AND GETTING STONED with the people you are to oversee, it has certainly changed.

He spoke honestly and appreciates the tough spot Obama is in. I don't even like country music but he has one song that makes me tear up everytime I hear it--that rarely happens with me.

I did love him on The Apprentice. I loved how he reacted to whatever boy band was on there when they wanted black nail polish. It was the best moment of the season!
08:19 AM on 06/17/2010
Of course he is right, and I applaud his honesty. I almost think The President would be better off to just admit it as well.