Pastor Mike Addresses The Flock In NH

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For most Presidential candidates stumping in New Hampshire, today is nothing more than a crucial opportunity to expand and rally their base. But for Mike Huckabee, it's also Sunday. Today in the town of Windham, Huckabee stood in the same suit and spoke in the same voice to two different crowds, for two very different reasons. This morning, he did double duty as pastor and Presidential candidate. And while he uttered not a word about his campaign or political career in his sermon, the two performances--one from Pastor Mike, one from Governor Huckabee--were strikingly similar.

For the 75-odd% of Americans who live outside the world of electric worship bands, whose cars bear no fish icons, and who are thinking about a personal relationship with their health care system and economy, instead of a personal relationship with Jesus, Huckabee is an introduction to a new sort of Christian candidate. To the megachurch set, he's as familiar as a favorite Bible verse. He's as different than the slick, paternalistic, damnation preachers like Pats Robertson and Buchanan, who before him dreamt of expanding their pulpit to the presidency.

Huckabee's self-deprecating humor, comfort with secular culture, and essential reliability is the stuff of any soul-saver finding success in Christian America today; the preacher who is comfortable sitting in with the band, playing the devil's music like he did on Leno the other night, or traveling with a star of the sort of movies and television that yesterday's Christian leaders would have pilloried as violent soul poison. Today he let that persona hang out in its more familiar environs, before he brought it in front of a larger public, some of which is looking to this former long-shot as a possibility for national salvation.

What Pastor Mike said this morning has been spoken regularly at any Evangelical church in the country, by any pastor. It wasn't fair tax or foreign policy he preached on today, but what it means to be a soldier for Christ, and what it means to sacrifice ones selfish needs to serve the Lord. In church speak, he delivered a message on "death to self." But while his battle for votes in Tuesday went unmentioned, many of his musings spoke allegorically to his bid for the White House, and his Iowa win which to most people seemed unthinkable just weeks ago.

"Most of us start as losers," he said. "It's what we're trying to get away from," reminding the parishioners gathered before him in turtlenecks and snow boots that "patience is from a Greek work that literally means victory." Huckabee referenced the marathons he's run in terms of what it means to persevere in a life dedicated solely to Christ. "If you finish, you've had a victory. You trained for the moment of finishing." Eyes on the prize, indeed. But when reading fro Timothy 2, he made no mention of the apparent irony in the verse he discussed: "what it means to be a soldier for Christ," he preached, " is no one gets involved in civilian affairs." He continued, without an eye towards the political rally immediately following the service, at another school down the street, " committing to Christ, a lot of us want to bounce back and forth between two worlds. It doesn't work."

Perhaps that's because, the order to avoid civilian affairs aside, Huckabee is successfully collapsing his pastor self into his presidential candidate self. His cadence, his anecdotes, his jokes, his timing, his references--all these things are identical whether delivered form the pulpit or the podium. His church service this morning could have been recast in mad lib form, substituting his experience as a Christian with his experience as a governor, exchanging notions about sacrifice and freedom as a Christian for those same ideas as a citizen. Throw in a few mentions to his support for the second amendment, his opposition to abortion, and his constant circling back, in this income-tax-free state, to his plans to reform the tax code, and you've got the same guy. "Government didn't give us these rights," he said at his rally after the service. "God did."

Of course, it makes perfect sense that the same type of performance that would draw seekers hungry for identity, community, and the promise of salvation into a relationship with a church and a perceived Savior would also work to sign people on to a political platform. I've traveled throughout Evangelical America and listened to Christians tell me everywhere I've gone that they came to Christ because they were searching for authenticity, they were looking for a leader to believe in, in what they consider to be a leaderless world. They're referring to the Lord, sure, but also to the pastor's whose charisma and accessibility many of them follow like Jesus himself.

Speaking to Huckabee supporters this morning, Christian or secular, I heard the same words spoken in the same tones. People would gush that they feel he's "something real," "truly authentic," "something to believe in," whether he's discussing the energy independence or his executive experience. They don't talk about him in the terms of political leadership, but spiritual leadership. In this state, the second least-church-going I the nation, where Evangelical churches average 70 members--compared to the 2,500 are the lowest limit to qualify as a megachurch--the gospel Huckabee preaches may be, in the vernacular of that other boy from Hope, the economy stupid. But the experience they're having in rallies across the state between now and Tuesday feel like the stuff of the modern American pulpit, no longer a world apart from the modern American presidential election. Whether that will translate into a political mandate in this state or nationwide remains to be seen. But no longer does a Christian soldier need to change his uniform to do civilian duty in this supposedly secular nation.

For most Presidential candidates stumping in New Hampshire, today is nothing more than a crucial opportunity to expand and rally their base. But for Mike Huckabee, it's also Sunday. Today in the to...
For most Presidential candidates stumping in New Hampshire, today is nothing more than a crucial opportunity to expand and rally their base. But for Mike Huckabee, it's also Sunday. Today in the to...
 
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- nofltwlt I'm a Fan of nofltwlt 4 fans permalink

Oh Holy Fuck! Here we go again! Desperate to win, this huckster is going to steal all the money of old ladies and then steal the election. Then like a true christian he will turn around, award tax breaks to the rich and knock all the old ladies up (throwing the fuck to them).

Isn't anyone tired of these religious fanatics yet? It's all a joke people. Go to church, come out feeling refreshed and keep your fantasy to yourself.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:51 PM on 01/07/2008

Would he appoint an atheist? Even if he has said he would I doubt it seriously. I can just imagine the congress discussing if passing into law intelligent design is a good thing to balance evolution, his words. I wonder if he would require the same for evolution for kids who are home schooled because their parents don't believe in evolution, amongst other reasons? Don't think so. Do you think he would name a pro choice judge to any court? Doubt it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:39 PM on 01/07/2008
- terryb I'm a Fan of terryb 2 fans permalink

Say hello to the next president. Mike (i want jesus as a running mate) Huckabee. Christian America, will eat it up like candy. There are some on this post, that are already doing so.
Heres another reason.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e6W3T7MTh4M&feature=related

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:30 PM on 01/07/2008
- richw23 I'm a Fan of richw23 3 fans permalink

The most distressing thing to me is that so many people seem to ignore that Huckabee is more or less saying openly that he will try to run a de-facto theocracy.

As I say as often as possible, if God said "Mike, kill me a son", I think Huck'llBearWithNoSins would comply in religious ecstacy; knowing this wasn't just the voices in his head.

Same deal with Armageddon.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:00 PM on 01/07/2008
- FOXYLADY I'm a Fan of FOXYLADY 16 fans permalink

GOD HELP US!! NOT ANOTHER "BORN AGAIN" LIKE BUSH.........SUCH HYPOCRACY...BUSH IS A WAR MONGER - SOMETHING THAT NO REAL CHRISTIAN NOW WOULD BE.......WE DIDN'T NEED HIS GD CRUSADE IN IRAQ.........I WONDER WHAT HUCK WOULD SAY ABOUT THAT?????

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:50 PM on 01/07/2008

A teensy nit: Buchanan is a Roman Catholic. (Small difference, extremists of any religious stripe are extremists not to be trusted.)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:58 AM on 01/07/2008
- Mormondude I'm a Fan of Mormondude 27 fans permalink

I once heard Orrin Hatch give a talk in a church meeting. He wasn't running for President at the time, but his talk was the antithesis of politics. He could have spent an hour arguing the theological and moral considerations of embryonic stem cell research, of which he is a proponent. Instead he talked about experiences as a young missionary decades ago and his love for hymns and inspirational music.

Personally, I would find any politician that took the pulpit to sell themselves as a huge insult. Especially someone that has run ads portraying themselves as a "Christian leader". There's a time for campaigning and there's a time for preaching, and the two should not ever overlap. If Huckabee wants to attend the service to worship, that's great. But he should have the deference and respect for other people's worship to abstain from preaching during his Presidential bid.

When you use political ads to call yourself a "Christian leader", and then you go preach sermons on Sunday, you are campaigning from the pulpit, period.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:56 AM on 01/07/2008
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I'll give these two points to Huckabee, he's not in bed with Wall Street, and the effect he is having represents a huge split within the Republican Party.

One that divides the Evangelicals from the Corporatists, thanks primarily to the Corporate interests being so stupid and greedy, they actually screwed over the Evangelists - like the rest of us.

Both need each other for the Republicans to have a shot in '12, much less '08, and I don't see anyone on the horizon in that party that can reunite them.

Oh well, count down to Corporate America having a cow in 5... 4... 3... 2... 1...

But that's it. I don't care for most anything else from Huckabee.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:28 AM on 01/07/2008
- wmbear I'm a Fan of wmbear 24 fans permalink

I LIKE MIKE...

Not! (Go Huck yourself.)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:50 PM on 01/06/2008
- Qbear I'm a Fan of Qbear 51 fans permalink

I don't underestimate Huckabee as a skilled preacher and he applies his clown make up artfully, and his statement "he's Conservative he's just not mad about it"...is brilliant.
It's as Rovian as dismissing any criticism of this administration with "you Just Hate Bush" which seemingly ends the critic's legitimacy.
But make no mistake he is a mean spirited AIDS hysterical fag basher.
He's NEVER going to know the pleasure of putting People With AIDS in Camp trains or cutting the funds for the neds we need to live,(I've lived with HIV/AIDS for 23 years, and lost friends and my lover.)
He won't know that pleasure, because one or the other of us won't be breathing.
http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2006-8/1210139/huckatrain.jpg

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:16 PM on 01/06/2008

Mike Huckabee is still lost in medevial time. He doesn't accept evolution. Who would his Secretary of Education be? Would that kind of an administration be even more hostile to science than the current Bush idiotocracy?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:15 PM on 01/06/2008
- Mariel I'm a Fan of Mariel 10 fans permalink

This is an article which at least understands the current Christian scene, or that part of it which is represented by Huckabee. Good article!

What I like about Mike Huckabee is this: he is a populist, wanting a fair shake for the common man and woman, and for small business people, and for the troops and veterans. He has good ideas about education and making roads work; he is practical as well as visionary. These ideals are similar to those of Jesus, who spoke up for the common man and woman against the Pharisees, who also valued education (note Jesus' knowledge of the Old Testament scriptures and other supporting literature which is lost, as well as his Hebraic skill in using metaphor and other figures of speech). I don't know if Jesus cared about roads, but in his day the Romans took care of that; our "Romans" have given up on roads and most practical concerns of ordinary human beings. So maybe the Christians have to build roads now too.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:02 PM on 01/06/2008
- Pdubya I'm a Fan of Pdubya 44 fans permalink

he is another CFR shill.

only gravel, kucinich and paul are not.

only reagan, jfk, and eisenhower were the last non members of the globalists' agendas.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:01 PM on 01/06/2008
- AKJM I'm a Fan of AKJM 20 fans permalink
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Hucklebee is being savaged by Republican cannibals his message of economic justice is anathema to them.

http://www.townhall.com/columnists/GeorgeWill/2008/01/06/the_tearing_of_the_conservative_fusion

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:19 PM on 01/06/2008

Onward Christian Soldiers!

Should produce a lovely fissure in the Republican party.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:18 PM on 01/06/2008
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