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Why You're Not Actually Poor

Posted: 08/30/2012 1:44 pm

People have a lot of opinions about money.

In our "Money Mic" series, we hand over the podium to someone with a strong opinion on a financial topic. These are their views, not ours, but we welcome your responses.

Today, LearnVest reader Kimberlee Stiens explains what she thinks it means to actually be poor--and why most of us aren't.

I am sick of hearing about the trials and tribulations of the middle class.

Politicians constantly talk about strengthening the middle class (which is shrinking) or accuse their opponents of waging war on it, when I think the middle class, on the whole, has little cause to complain.

I've seen women here on LearnVest and in my daily life complain about making $40,000 a year, saying that's not enough to support themselves (to which I would add: "in the lifestyle to which they've become accustomed").

The poverty line in America is $22,350 a year ... for a family of four. In 2010, a full 15% of Americans lived below this threshold. Most American adults will live below that threshold for at least one year of their lives.

That's why I think we need to change the way we talk about being "poor" or "middle class."

I Know Because I Grew Up Poor
I became middle class for the first time ever only about a year ago. I grew up fairly poor, my father being generally unable to keep a job and my mother not having legal standing to work in this country. (Complicated story, but she's Canadian and only recently got U.S. residency--I think she always intended to go back there.) I graduated college with some $60,000 in student loans and a temporary internship position for a congressional campaign paying $250 a week. At least it came with free housing.

I graduated with a degree in political science and wasn't sure what I wanted to do, but was mostly looking for admin office jobs. When I started college, I harbored the same illusions as the rest of my graduating class: We were freshmen in 2004, when almost all undergrads could count on getting a job after graduation, and we finished college in the middle of the Great Recession.

After the congressional campaign, I worked at a fast food restaurant for two years while constantly applying for office jobs. I made no more than $10 an hour, with no benefits. So when I managed to get an internship in Washington, D.C. working for the Marijuana Policy Project, I jumped on it. I worked for $9 an hour until I was promoted to my first full-time, salaried position as a membership assistant, at $35,000 a year, with paid vacation and health benefits.

Finally, at age 25, I was middle class, but I didn't know it yet.

It's Our Choices That Define Us
I work at a non-profit, a sector where salaries are notoriously "low." Yet most of my peers here make at least $30,000 yearly. We all have health care and other benefits.

After I started my job, I realized that, for the first time, my life was no longer about what I could and couldn't afford. It was about how I chose to spend my money. I could no longer blame the externalities of a cruel world for keeping me down.

Now I'm the office manager and executive assistant to our executive director at the same organization where I had my first internship. I make $39,000 a year (I negotiated my raise!), and live in Washington, DC, one of the most expensive housing markets in the country. I'm paying off my student loans, and I'm doing fine.

Given that I encounter more than one panhandler on my walk to work each day, it seems delusional that anyone complains that $35,000 a year makes them "poor." I live in D.C. and work on the Hill, where there's a culture of made-up poverty. Many staffers work long hours and live in shared housing, but they all tend to make salaries of at least $25,000 with health benefits (and they have plenty of opportunity to move up after they put in their time!). Everyone complains about being poor, but then goes out to drinks each week.

It's not that they have it easy. They just don't understand how much easier they have it than some.

Try Another Perspective
I'm not trying to diminish anyone's experience. I know that dipping below a standard of living you've always enjoyed will feel pretty crappy. My point is that, comparatively speaking, it's not actually all that crappy. Many middle class people, particularly those who have never really been poor, don't seem to see that there's a whole other side to the economy that they never experience, like this writer who struggles to pay for friends' weddings. I've met people who have spent 20 years in food service, with no health care, no bonuses and usually kids to support.

There are middle class people who say they just can't live in D.C. or New York City on $40,000 a year, but there are also people in those same places living on minimum wage. Take a look at the invisible people around you who make your life tick--your cleaners, the person making your drinks, your interns--and imagine how they make ends meet.

It's a choice that you make to feel disadvantaged. If you make $33,000 a year, the truth is, you are actually in the top 50% of wage-earners.

Everyone can, and should, do a little more to manage their finances better. And while studies may show that we don't feel truly comfortable or secure in our finances until we reach between $50,000 and $75,000 a year, it's a bit dramatic for people to feel anything other than lucky when depositing their salaried paychecks.

Kim lives in Washington, DC where she works as an office manager for a medium-sized non-profit. She blogs at Business for Good, not Evil.

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People have a lot of opinions about money. In our "Money Mic" series, we hand over the podium to someone with a strong opinion on a financial topic. These are their views, not ours, but we welcome yo...
People have a lot of opinions about money. In our "Money Mic" series, we hand over the podium to someone with a strong opinion on a financial topic. These are their views, not ours, but we welcome yo...
 
 
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04:52 PM on 09/06/2012
I agree with her. It is possible to live in DC on your own and make ends meet with money to spare. For those that disagree I challenge you to this budget which was created from actual DC costs.

Rent: $850/mo (utilities included) Normandie Apartments - Studio
Transportation: $100/mo (Metro bus pass is $16/7-day pass) plus a little extra for cabs occasionally
Food: $225/mo (Avg 1 person food budget)
Cable/Internet: $70 (Comcast) You don't really need this, but its fun to have.
Phone: $50 (ATT GoPhone with unlimited talk and text)
Misc: $100 (For the little things along the way)

Total: $1395

A $30,000 job will net a single person $1613 which is after taxes (state. local, fed) and health care

That leaves another $218 unaccounted for at the end of the month. Even putting away just $100 of that in savings would provide a cushion for a bad day. It is entirely possible to live decent in DC for $30K.
06:40 AM on 09/04/2012
"I work at a non-profit, a sector where salaries are notoriously "low." Yet most of my peers here make at least $30,000 yearly. WE ALL HAVE HEALTH CARE AND OTHER BENEFITS"

Many people making $30k don't get those benefits thrown in for free and since in the US health care insurance alone is easily $5k or more (especially when you have kids), much more than in other developed countries, that is not something to be glossed over. Your student debt would also be considered incredibly high in other countries. These factors do cause an American making $30k to be a lot less secure in his/her middle class status than a person in another developed country making $30k, then there's the low value of the dollar...
01:25 AM on 09/03/2012
Agreed!
One of the things that annoys me about some people, are the complaints along this line:
"Ugh, I'm so poor! I have to either wait for Christmas to get that game/jacket/whatever expensive item. I don't want to spend my gift-money on that!"

Yeah, no... That's not what poor is.

Try wondering if you can afford rent to your tiny, dingy apartment, or if there'll be money for food at the end of the month. Stealing toilet paper at gas stations.
And that's not even those worst off. There are homeless people out there in our wealthy nations too.
07:00 PM on 09/02/2012
Considering that some billion humans on the planet live on less than a dollar a day, that 2.6 billion humans do not have a safe and sanitary place to poop and that 24,000 children die of starvation everyday, yes, every single person reading this is incredibly wealthy.

Yet, one sees more misery and less happiness here in this wealthy land than one does in the Third World villages.
01:18 AM on 09/03/2012
"Yet, one sees more misery and less happiness here in this wealthy land than one does in the Third World villages. "

No, one does not.
Seriously? You might want to support you claims.
03:15 AM on 09/03/2012
Look at the faces of the first 100 people walking past in any American city and few, if any, are smiling or showing any joy on their faces. Contrast this to what one sees in a poorer country. In the USA, the kids are miserable with the sickness of always wanting more, where poorer kids have gratitude for anything that comes to them. Obviously, there are places where things are terrible and the people suffer greatly. But here in the USA where people have so much, there is so much misery that half the people are obese and a quarter are on anti-depressants.
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12:53 AM on 09/02/2012
If you have benefits and no kids, $30,000 is good. But if you're on your own for insurance and have any pre-existing conditions, expect to pay at least $8000 a year for basic healthcare. $30,000 can get your far, but it depends on a number of factors.
09:04 AM on 09/02/2012
Health care is the number one financial challenge for Americans - it is criminal how the insurance / health care system is set up.
07:57 PM on 09/01/2012
Well Its Nice To See SomeOne Understands POVERTY Is Man Made UnFortunately "Invisible People" Are The Ones WE Really Don't see, Living Under Bridges,HIDING themselves From Society Because of Pride of SelfWorth,TOO Proud To admit They Got screwed by "GreedMongers" That Sell Dreams that Having a 35k a year JOB will Get you through Life. Reality Is There Should Be No Way ONE Man Such As Carlos Slim Or Mark Zuckerburg Should Have 10,20or30 Billion Dollars Sitting in a bank account DOING NOTHING While Others Are Running NOT for Profits Or Charities TRYing to make a Difference,TRYing to Feed Homeless"Invisible People" BIG BANKS Have Insurance for Losses,Big Business TOO Democracy Has Definite FAIL Points, Poverty Is One Of Them.The President of the United States of America should Have Power to Declare #WARonPoverty Without ANY Body or Entity Interfearing With His Doing So. Basically I'm Saying Clint Eastwood Had The Concept Right With The Chair But He should Have Been talking toThe Bankers,Brokers&Big Bussiness Men of society Like Richard Branson That are Spending Billions of Dollars Dreaming of ways to Bank More&More Money Rather than Helping Humanity Survive With Dignity on THIS Planet Like Bill Gates&Warren Buffet Seem To have Figured Out...Sorry Kim But There Are Far Too many REAL Highly Visible POOR People On This Planet. Congrats On Your Own Personal Situation Though I Truely Commend Your efforts BUT OUR Planet NEEDS A DoOver on How we Value MONEY
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06:54 PM on 09/01/2012
I think, what some might be missing, is that it's hard to see those who can afford vacations (we've not had one in over eight years), brand new cars (ours are both over 10 years old), and other things and not know how they got there.

It's not envy as much as it's "I want to be there too. How do I get there?" There are people like myself who did what they were "supposed" to do -- get a job at 16, work hard, go to college, and graduate. Work whenever you are asked to, take initiative, volunteer for projects, work when you're sick, work until the last minute (as I did with my pregnancies) and come back after only 6-8 wks (when doctor OK's it). All for a $0.25 per year raise.

There's got to be something I'm missing.
09:13 AM on 09/02/2012
Unfortunately, few employers reward loyalty. Every advancement I have made is by leaving one employer for a different position. A few companies promote within but for the most part employers take advantage of employees who are not able to for whatever reason move on.
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11:03 AM on 09/02/2012
Agreed. I've always had to move jobs to get ahead. Where I work now I really like, though, and don't wish to leave. It's so frustrating.
06:43 PM on 09/01/2012
Guys, she talking about people who can't afford the basics of life like food and shelter, not those who can't afford having a cell phone or going on vacation. Yes, it does suck to not be able to have nice things, but it doesn't mean you are truly poor.
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06:27 PM on 09/01/2012
It's all relative. I also know people, combined fam of 4 making 200k, saying they struggle to make ends meet. Yet compare how they live to some third world country. But what bothers me is... We live in a rich country, and it's not right to make your millions off the backs of struggling people, paying them minimum wage and no benefits. Then hoarding all that money they made for you, and they continue to strggle.
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06:22 PM on 09/01/2012
Well written article. Big glass of "shut up and stop whining" to the many who constantly complain about what they can't afford like they're homeless rather than unwilling to adjust their standard of living. A bit of personal accountability is refreshing.
10:20 AM on 09/02/2012
Anyone whose boss makes 10+ times what they make has a right to whine and demand more. All the income being hoarded at the top is not what makes this country great. It's what threw us into another recession and keeps people from moving up economically, keeps unemployment high, keeps people stressed their whole lives even if they are housed and fed. Nobody needs a large screen TV, true, but nobody's boss needs three houses and a vacation every month, either.
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01:59 PM on 09/01/2012
Kim makes some fair points. If you're single and relatively happy, you can survive in NYC or another big American city making around 40 k a year.
01:05 PM on 09/01/2012
Some of us may not be happy simply existing.

What is life without a little bit of excess?
10:48 AM on 09/02/2012
Normal
10:26 AM on 09/01/2012
You're not poor because you live in a first world country, period. Poor people die of starvation not a lack of brand named clothing and tech gadgets.
09:07 PM on 08/31/2012
Single, $39,000 per year = plenty of disposable income. Married/children, $39,000 per year = struggling.
10:22 AM on 09/02/2012
I'm single and in my area, $39k would be barely subsistence. There is no public transportation to get to work, e.g., and we have hard winters -- heat is almost never included in rent, even for apartments. Gas to get to work is $50 a week. My advice: Head Out of Sand.
08:55 PM on 08/31/2012
Funny that people with electric, tap water and internet accu