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Lee Stranahan

Posted: August 12, 2008 08:12 PM

Did John Edwards Meet Rielle Hunter On March 20th?


Last night on the Larry King show, National Enquirer Editor David Perel dropped another bombshell -- that John Edwards has had three meeting with Rielle Hunter at the Beverly Hills Hilton. Perel has previously claimed that there were two meetings with Hunter, the one that Edwards has confirmed happened in July and one around the beginning of June.

So when did Edwards see Hunter aside from June and July? I think the date might be March 20th, 2008. Looking into Edward's schedule, he appeared on The Tonight Show With Jay Leno on that date. The Tonight Show tapes at the NBC studios in Burbank, California and usually wraps taping a little after five o'clock. Burbank is about a half hour from the Beverly Hilton hotel.

This may answer some questions that have been raised about the infamous 'Spy Cam' baby photos. For example, some have wondered about Edwards wearing a short sleeved shirt in the photo while reporters from the Enquirer stated that Edwards was wearing a long sleeved shirt when they confronted him at the Beverly Hilton. A careful reading of the Enquirer story that ran with the photos, however, shows that Enquirer never said the Spy Cam photo was from the July meeting.

In his ABC interview that aired this past Friday, Edwards gave an unusually parsed answer when asked about the photo.

EDWARDS: The picture in the tabloid. I have no idea what that picture is.

WOODRUFF: But you've seen it right?

EDWARDS: I did see it and I cannot make any sense out of that. When I went to this meeting you've already asked me about, uh, I was not wearing a t-shirt, I was wearing a long-sleeved shirt with the sleeves rolled up. I don't know who that picture -- I don't know if that picture is me, it could well be, it looks like me. I don't know who that baby is, I have no idea what that picture is.

I've spoken with sources close to the Edwards camp who told me that Edwards hadn't worn the light blue shirt seen in the baby photo 'in months' and who said that the photos of the baby was also months old. Significantly, these sources didn't deny that the baby was Rielle Hunter's, just that it was an older picture. This would be consistent with a March 20th meeting date.

Wikipedia says that Rielle Hunter's birthday is March 20th.

I spoke with National Enquirer editor David Perel who stated that the Enquirer has dates for all three meetings and plans to publish them in upcoming issues. Mr. Perel said he would neither confirm or deny my speculation about March 20th as being the date of a meeting between Hunter and Edwards.

UPDATE: I was just a guest on The Young Turks radio show. I mentioned the March 20th date and the host of show and Huffington Post blogger Cenk Uygur told me that he ran into Edwards on March 20th, jogging outside the Beverly Hilton hotel. Edwards said he was staying at the Beverly Hilton and that he was appearing on the Tonight Show later that night.

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Last night on the Larry King show, National Enquirer Editor David Perel dropped another bombshell -- that John Edwards has had three meeting with Rielle Hunter at the Beverly Hills Hilton. Perel has p...
Last night on the Larry King show, National Enquirer Editor David Perel dropped another bombshell -- that John Edwards has had three meeting with Rielle Hunter at the Beverly Hills Hilton. Perel has p...
 
 
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03:07 AM on 08/14/2008
The only part of the story that interests me is the money. You have to pay unified estate(death)/gift taxes on annual amounts paid to a non-spouse (which has an unlimited deduction). As an attorney (who needs knowledge of estate planning), and a rich guy who is worth millions he has to know this. Have any gift tax returns been filed or taxes been paid. If not he could go to JAIL, not just political purgatory. If he had voted to rescind the death tax, he may not have this problem.

FYI .. Gov. John Corzine paid over $350,000 in gift tax when he forgave a loan to his girlfriend the head of a teachers union. He knew about those taxes. I wonder if Sen. Edwards did.
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08:26 PM on 08/13/2008
I heard Lee on Young Turks, he's really upset that political blogs like Kos banned him. That's like being upset Peta refuses a post from the Beef It's What's For Dinner campaign Kos is a progressive political blog. They are not going to let Lee post ad infitum about Edwards, his wife, his love child, his parking tickets etc.

First, Kos is mostly about electoral politics, not tabloid journalism. They speak to actual really important issues not about who is sleeping with who and what celebrity decided to go commando. Next it is not unusual for folks who may feel some sympathy and understanding for what Elizabeth is going through to find Lee's opinionating objectionable. The woman is dying. Put yourself in her shoes. Of course neither he could or most of you could...you're not dying.

When Bill Clinton was going through his even worse violation of the public trust by having sex...in the oval office and other locations in the White House with Monica Lewinsky..most liberals and Dems defended Bill. In fact MoveOn.org was formed to defend the Clintons. We all screamed 'it's a private matter'...why is it a private matter for the Clintons but not for the Edwards? Where are the Hillary supporters supporting Elizabeht for the same damn thing?
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09:38 PM on 08/13/2008
It's not political blogs 'like' DailyKos that banned me. It's only Daily Kos that banned me.

There are respected left leaning political blogs like TalkingPointsMemo.com that not only haven't banned me, they've had their reporters talk to me to get background on the story.

But head right back over to Kos - they've got Kool-Aid waiting for you!
03:51 PM on 08/15/2008
When Bill Clinton won the first time, his extramarital whatever was known to voters and knowingly voters voted for him, not for being a family man.... but as a very good candidate and He proved us right.
Edwards on the other hand, ran in the primaries, as a wholesome family man and basically that attracted the voters. We are not to be the judge and the jury, but this is still about election and the voters needed to know to make their decision.
..I will refrain from saying what could have been, it the affair was known early on....
05:58 PM on 08/13/2008
While I have mixed feelings about Edwards' handling of this, it would seem that the people involved have come to some kind of resolution amongst themselves, haven't they? I just don't understand why people think a politician's personal life should be any of our business. Did this have any influence on Edwards' stands on the issues? Did it influence public policy in any way? Is the political arena changed in important or relevant ways as a result? If not, why should any of us make it our business? They are under no obligation to divulge the juicy details for our amusement or condemnation, merely because "inquire-ing" little minds want to know. Hypocrisy?..hypocrites hold our politicians to a "holier than thou" image, dictated by a morality barometer we don't all share.

We know all about other past politicians' and political activists' personal lives, most after the fact, and it hasn't seemed to diminish their standings in history, their accomplishments or had a lasting impact on government policy..FDR, Kennedys, Martin Luther King, Bill Clinton all have legacies beyond the "naughty-naughty" business. Let it go already..there seems to be some kind of vendetta mentality on this. What's the end-game strategy? How will this make us or the country any better for the knowing? Our knowledge won't change the outcome for the parties involved and shouldn't influence the positive contributions John Edwards has made to this country!
08:42 PM on 08/13/2008
But we all know that the tabloids are not going to let this one go. If any jounalistic genre or media entity wants to investigate this story, then it shouldn't be about the sex. America has proven that with Bill's escapades. There is only one person that can end this story and put it to rest and that is John Edwards. He was my second pick in the primaries and it infuriates me that I might have actually voted for him (not because he had an affair). It's definitely about the hypocrisy. I think he knew that his political career would survive the affair and that's why he never ended it. Most think the reason he didn't come clean about the timeline was to cover up that he's the father of Hunter's baby, which is definitely costing him money being that he is the father. Since he involved Fred Baron, I doubt the money is coming from his personal bank account. Has any other political sex scandal involved hiring the mistress with supporters' money? This one is different and because of it the core of Edwards' lies.

Yes, he's not a candidate anymore, but a serious contender for attorney general. I seriously doubt that will play out despite his many accomplishments (really sad). Edwards needs to come forward before the tabloids really chew him up during the DNC. This whole mess could end up hurting the man who is our Democractic candidate.
04:18 PM on 08/13/2008
Thanks CSNS56--- my thoughts, only infinitely more articulately stated.
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02:00 PM on 08/13/2008
Pleeeeeeasssssssse let it go! We just don't care! Bring it up if he ever decides to run for public office again. If he doesn't, why does it matter anyway?!?
02:02 PM on 08/13/2008
What people need to understand about this matter is that Edwards may have used campaign money to fund both Hunter and Young. This, as most should know, is unethical and highly illegal. So with this said, digging for more information as to how long the affair lasted is important....especially to all of Edwards' contributors. Why? It raises questions as to how long money was being funded. Fred Baron has to be a fool if he thinks he can get away with saying that Edwards had no knowledge that he was supporting the duo. Hunter was a nobody novice that staffers for the Edwards campaign said was not a high ranking person. Why in the world would Fred Baron have any interest in helping her out? I think we all know now the answer to that question. It's not just about the affair and the cheating, which I could care less about myself. Bloggers who know how to investigate well should go after the money trail.

As for the Enquirer, they have something dirty up their sleeve and it doesn't take a genius to figure out when they are going to release the rest of their information. Are you willing to bet it's 8/25?
04:57 PM on 08/13/2008
The story is still alive because it's about sex. Who's child it? Is he still seeing her? etc.
There may issues that need to be looked at, but at heart--the reason this story is still around--is because it's about sex.

Not that the possibility of misusing campaign funds is not an issue, but I look around--John McCain's ties to lobbyists and subsequent influence peddling, Russia/Georgia, the illegal firing of federal prosecutors, the CIA possibly making up documents to get us into a war in Iraq, the sudden quiet around the anthrax investigation, White House officials ignoring subpoenas and refusing to testify--these matter a heck of a lot more. Will these stories have the same legs as Edwards story? No, because the Edwards story revolves around sex.

If reporters went after the big stories like they are going after John Edwards, we'd have some real change in America. But they'll never do it.

Remember how the press went after Clinton?
It's always about sex.
05:09 PM on 08/13/2008
I disagree. They're not going after McCain, & he appears to have had plenty of sex. People hate overt hypocrisy - and this is a particularly weird story. It's so easy to say, "Oh, Americans are such prudes, etc," and try to divert from what really does interest people. This was not a hot, young mistress. She's an older, weirder, strangely-selected mistress, and the wife is a particularly sympathetic, and tragic, woman who is easy to identify with. There are a lot of components in this - and the least is sex. That is what's interesting - and what wasn't interesting in Clinton's escapades, nor McCain's.

I think those who want to pin it on sex miss how deeply the Edwards family ingrained themselves as an ideal family, supportive and close, and very real. (which, in the last part, may be the case) Even if we weren't voting for them, the less cynical among us very likely believed that. I preferred Obama, but Edwards was always a close second - and stupidly on my part, the family story factored in more than I might like to admit. When I reflect on his actual policies, his light-weight history as a Senator, his methods as an attorney, and the sanctimonious nature of his speeches, I wonder what I was thinking. It was an image - a false one - but it held a lot of people entralled. Let's hope Obama has more substance.
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07:53 PM on 08/13/2008
Totally agree. If Edwards had not had sex with Hunter would Lee even be following this story? We all know the answer to that one.
01:16 PM on 08/13/2008
What are you investigating? He had an affair. He may have lied about some aspects of it.
So What? Edwards is done. Done. Done!

Is there a columnist at Huff Post that hasn't written a column on the Edwards affair?

Seriously, why aren't reporters going after McCain? It's not sexy enough for them, I bet.

All this is doing is diverting attention away from real issues that actually affect Americans.
My goodness, we're doing the republicans work for them.

Somewhere Karl Rove is laughing. Once again, we're eating our own.

Edwards is done, but McCain may very well be our next president. Sleep tight.
12:09 PM on 08/13/2008
Who cares? We can talk about John Edwards on January 21st. How about we focus on something more relevant - like John McCain's affairs. Or maybe even his incredibly dangerous and bellicose "War Today, War Tomorrow, War Forever" policies.
12:03 PM on 08/13/2008
Love the smell of hypocrisy in the morning..

If Edwards had been a Republican, everyone on the hysterical Left would be BEGGING for new information instead of begging everyone to forget it and move on...

Michale.....
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12:14 PM on 08/13/2008
That's because Republicans like to pretend they're holier than everyone else. Which is where the real hypocrisy lies.
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03:13 PM on 08/13/2008
I think the Republicans just find it disturbing that a politician has an affair with a woman instead of a male page or a guy in an adjacent bathroom stall.
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11:22 AM on 08/13/2008
With all the dire issues facing this nation, you get bogged down in this?
This is fodder for readers of the National Enquirer seeking vicarious titillation through the misadventures of others and for Republicans desperately looking for a scandal that does not involve them.
11:44 AM on 08/13/2008
Enough already! I think Edwards was out of his mind to run for president with this type of thing going on (and yes, I don't think what he's saying now is the full truth). But he's finished in politics now and has provided a cautionary tale for all future candidates for the presidency. My anger at his poor judgement in putting the Dems at risk (if he'd gotten the nomination) has passed and I feel sympathy for Elizabeth and his family. This media obsession now with their tradgedy is getting more and more discusting to watch. I guess many of us love to watch the mighty fall - the joy of seeing them twist in the wind. Meanwhile, Bush and Cheney puncture holes in the constitution and get away with it.
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11:59 AM on 08/13/2008
Love the smell of schadenfreude in the morning.....
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08:04 PM on 08/13/2008
I was an Edwards supporter and I'll be damned if I would characterize him as the least bit 'mighty' even before this came out.

This whole exercise is like beating up a D-List celebrity. Fun for the cruel and disgusting to everyone else.
11:14 AM on 08/13/2008
Thanks for the dogged journalism. We must ensure that these self-serving liars are not allowed to betray the public trust in positions of influence.

Keep it up!!!
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11:04 AM on 08/13/2008
Media churning an old story, so what, jeez time to move on.

Remember MEDIA-(AND BLOGS) this is ONLY important if he was in office (HE'S NOT) or running for office (HE'S NOT), other than that no one cares.

BUT BUT BUT... HE LIED ETC.

Yeah, AND HE ADMITTED IT, AND HE WAS SORRY

SO STOP CHURNING IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
11:09 AM on 08/13/2008
You can bet that those who supported Edwards and those who gave money to Edwards really CARE that their money may have gone to support Edwards' mistress and co-conspirators...

As well they should...

Michale.....
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11:27 AM on 08/13/2008
You can bet that I want to know what Halliburton, KBR and Blackwater did with my tax money.
10:58 AM on 08/13/2008
I have no interest whatsoever in the Edwards' personal problems. However, I do have an interest in why the MSM is obsessed with Edwards affair versus McCain's. After all, he's the presidential nominee, not Edwards. Why does McCain consistently get a pass from the media on everything he says & does???
10:57 AM on 08/13/2008
Edwards got himself into this mess and he deserves no slack. This hotel photo stuff is similar to the Frank Gifford set up in NYC. There, the mistress set him up for profit. Fair to say Ms. Hunter and/or those around her are in on this.

Mistress probably recorded meetings as insurance for future "income." The lure of additional tabloid $$ assured an Edwards panic and ET-TMZ bonanza. Just too tempting for Lisa.Rielle.Druck.Hunter.and associates.
Surely she told her adulterous lover she wasn't using birth control.

Wonder how much the non-paternity test cost Edwards.
10:53 AM on 08/13/2008
@dooleynoted

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Oh and Mr. Hypocrite, would YOU care about this story if he were a REPUBLICAN?
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Abso-fracking-loutly...

ESPECIALLY if I was an Edwards supporter who donated to Edwards, only to learn that my donation may have gone to support his mistress and other co-conspirators...

Michale.....