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Leonie Haimson

Leonie Haimson

Posted: February 28, 2011 10:52 AM

On Saturday, Arne Duncan warned governors about "dumb" education cuts and then suggested even dumber cuts, like increasing class size:

"Duncan also said that states should think selectively about increasing class sizes. The father of two grade-school-age children said he'd rather his kids be in a bigger class with a better teacher than a smaller class with a lousy one. He suggested teachers could get paid extra for getting a bigger class..."

Now can anyone explain how that would help kids? Pay teachers more to teach more students, each of which would get less attention and and a lower quality of education? Talk about paying more for less.

Meanwhile, the Institute of Education Sciences, the research arm of the US Department of Education (which he heads) points out that class size reduction is one of only a handful of reforms that have been proven to work through rigorous evidence.

Duncan, whose speech was peppered with references to "you guys"... is popular even with many conservative Republicans... Sixteen governors listened to his speech, which followed a presentation from the head of the Indicators and Analysis Division at the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development. The OECD official said the U.S. is trailing other developed countries on a host of important measures. Ontario, Canada, was held out as a model.

Except that Ontario has reduced class size systematically since 2003 across the province -- just as Finland did, decades earlier, propelling that country to its success.

See how Ontario has systematically reduced class size in the early grades since 2003 -- the opposite direction NYC schools and others throughout the nation have taken since then.

In today's Washington Post, Bill Gates took up this same dumb refrain -- with a vengeance. He again suggests that class sizes should be increased, and makes the following claim:

In a 2008 survey funded by the Gates Foundation, 83 percent of teachers said they would be happy to teach more students for more pay.

Actually not! What the survey showed is that many teachers would take a $5,000 pay increase instead of a reduction in class size of two students per class -- which is very different from preferring an increase in their class size.

Not to mention that in survey after survey, teachers say that the best way to improve their effectiveness would be to reduce class size -- over salary increases, merit pay or any other policy. (For example, see this national survey from Public Agenda, "A Sense of Calling: Who Teaches and Why," in which 86 percent of teachers said that reducing would a "very effective" way to improve the quality of instruction, far above increasing salaries, more professional development or any other method cited.)

In today's oped, Gates also claims that "After the first few years, seniority seems to have no effect on student achievement." This is completely erroneous. See our fact sheet on teacher experience; showing student achievement gains are correlated with as much as twenty years of teaching experience.

In fact, as research reveals, there are only two observable, objective factors tied to more effective teaching - class size and more experience. And it's very sad that Gates and Duncan -- along with the other corporate privateers -- are attempting to undermine both.

 

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11:20 PM on 03/12/2011
Thank you, Leonie, for illuminating some central concepts in the class size debate. Right now, the ideology of cutting costs is justifying bad and unfair policy, with the rationale that if something is cheaper, it is preferred.

It costs money to have smaller class sizes. If we want solid outcomes for all children, we need equitable class sizes. Children in need of compensatory education should have even smaller numbers of students in their classes, so that teachers can bestow their attention, guidance and love more generously.

Non-educators, some holding key government positions, are now rationalizing away the critical concept of class size and the idea that senior teachers are more effective than new ones. See the forpublicedblogspot video, in which one principal challenges Cathie Black on this. Black responds to the principal saying that there is an economic crisis. We must fill in the blanks ourselves, here.

Like any other profession, nothing can replace knowledge gained through lived experience. And nothing can replace the moments of the teacher's attention and knowing in our young people's school experience.
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07:31 PM on 03/05/2011
Where is the accountability for VIACOM
& other media corporations
(eg. instead of the "BET" channel being utilized
for positive, inspirational, educational
or meaningful programming --
it has mostly
broadcast the worst sociopathic, demeaning,
undermining junk -- promoting
gangsterism & exploiting our vulnerable youth
with pernicious mind-killing crap.

FACT! --
Where is the "accountability" for Wall Street
& elite financiers,
such as MERRILL LYNCH and OPPENHEIMER,
previously the MAIN INVESTORS & SHAREHOLDERS
owning majority stock in the company
that produced the 'GRAND THEFT AUTO' video game
as its main product !!!

Also, what about the corporate soda-pop
& junk food pushers targeting children ?!

The reality is that ethical, caring, dedicated
public school teachers have been the
'good samaritans' courageously
teaching with tremendous effort daily
to educate & constructively help chidren --
to transcend, overcome hardship,
to cultivate wellbeing & achievement --
despite the grotesque obstacles
& destruction foisted on us by
irresponsible, unscrupulous, rapacious and
duplicitous corporate execs. & financial elites,
(societally-sabotaging/damaging,
corrupt oligarchs, such as Goldman Sachs,
J.P.Morgan/Rothschild scamsters et. al.
who've caused millions of chidren & families to be homeless.

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08:29 PM on 03/01/2011
Nice article. Instead of looking to Duncan and Gates lets look toward Diane Ravitch for the way forward in education reform!
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08:49 PM on 03/01/2011
Exactly. Let's do just that, because if there is one thing we don't have enough of it's pessimism and bromides.
11:24 PM on 03/01/2011
Diane Ravitch is optimistic enough to keep trying to break through to the billionaire bullies and politicians who are sucking the learning out of schools and replacing it with data-driven drivel. Not the rich folks' kids' schools - just other people's kids' schools....The bromides are coming from the Duncan and Gates crew, not from Ravitch.She is the brave breath of air in the room, the true educator who is speaking truth that they refuse to acknowledge.
11:23 PM on 03/12/2011
See the work of Jean Anyon and Pedro Noguera, if you really want to get serious.
02:33 PM on 03/01/2011
All that chart tells me is that class size in Ontario has gotten smaller. It does not tell me what was achieved from this reduction. Also, I am curious on average class sizes by the countries that are ranked higher than the U.S. In education.
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Pedagogy of the Oppressed by Paulo Freire
02:24 PM on 03/02/2011
If you had read the prose accompanying the graph you might have noticed that privatization advocates like Duncan call for increased class sizes, but also support the assessments of the OECD, which holds Ontario as a model of success. The graph indicates Ontario has systematically reduced class sizes.

The astute reader would realize that such success just might correspond to class size reductions. The onus to explain the graph in that context therefore falls on Duncan and the privatizers, whose contradictory views of wanting improvement while at the same time increasing class sizes are Ms. Haimson's point in the first place.
02:06 PM on 03/01/2011
Kind of makes you wonder why Bill Gates is doing this? Through all his charity work he has been portraying an image of someone willing to help and share. But now he is promoting the corporate cause and I can't see him doing it for the money...
12:35 AM on 03/01/2011
They expect some kind of super teacher to handle a large class and reach every single student? How would individualization work? How would using a reading/writing workshop model work? Gates, Duncan and Obama want to go back to the rote learning model. No higher-order thinking skills. Instead it's all about the test prep since that would be the only way a teacher can be compensated.

Basically they are advocating a factory-model instead of teaching for the 21st Century. It's all about cost-cutting.
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09:43 AM on 03/01/2011
The problem is that schools are also producing students on an assembly line. Having been a teacher, I was dismayed the school seemed to squelch critical thinking and individuality. I was a chorus teacher that had to keep 50-80 students consistently engaged for 1.5 hrs. I will tell you this...my students learned to sight read, to read and analyze music, they learned acoustics, history, etc. A good teacher who knows how to foster thinking and take advantage of the social aspect of learning, instead of having kids work individually, will not be intimidated by large class sizes...and will not become less effective in that environment.
05:16 PM on 03/01/2011
While running GLEE is a hard job, it is not bound to the same restraints as today's test-prep agenda. Teachers have to reach every child, and not every child is on the same level of learning so individualization, conferencing and portfolio work helps every child reach their potential. Before the test-prep agenda, teachers were allowed to be creative in their approach to learning and using other media like the arts was encouraged, and students improved and many reached grade level. However, the only thing driving education today is getting the principal a bonus. Principals therefore put music and art on hold to achieve their goal and that goal is aligned to one thing--a high-stakes test given in the middle of the year.
09:41 PM on 02/28/2011
Right on! Excellent article! Thank you.
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rdsathene
Pedagogy of the Oppressed by Paulo Freire
09:29 PM on 02/28/2011
Mr. Gates, if we want advice on error prone software rife with security holes, you're the first guy we'll call. On education or real systemic reforms, not so much.