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Lincoln Mitchell

Posted: March 30, 2010 12:58 PM

Socialism for the Tea Parties

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A recent Bloomberg National Poll confirmed what was already apparent, that the Tea Party movement has an intense hatred for anything they, or their leaders, deem to be socialist while both appreciating and wanting more government support for programs they like and, of course, not really understanding what the term socialist means. The Tea Party movement has a long, if perhaps not so distinguished pedigree, as fear of socialism has been a tool by powerful economic forces in the US for more than a century used to oppose any policies which might help poor and working people.

For over a hundred years the US has been characterized by a consensus dread of socialism while continuing to enact enormously popular policies that are essentially social democratic in nature. Health care reform is only the most recent example of this type of legislation which also includes Social Security, veterans benefits, Medicare, head start, food stamps which have become particularly popular in this economic downturn, and various other programs, subsidies and tax incentives.

In recent decades socialism, even among many of its advocates, has evolved into social democracy which seeks to take the edges off of the injuries of capitalism without substantially changing the system itself. Most of the industrialized world, including the US, learned in the first half of the last century that the only way to sustain capitalism was to rein it in somehow through providing support and protection for citizens. The social programs that were enacted in the US during the 1930s, as well as those in subsequent decades have always been quite popular. Americans, like Europeans and others, appreciate government safety nets, public projects and other benefits. The primary difference is that in the US, we have become very comfortable with elements of social democracy, although we still have far fewer of these than most wealthy industrialized countries, while we remain virulently opposed to the word "socialism" or even the phrase "social democracy."

Of course, using government resources to levy taxes and provide services including defense, infrastructure, education, economic incentives and programs is not socialism. It is governance. In America socialism is the bogeyman that is wheeled out from time to time to oppose programs that are viewed as too big or too costly, but even that is not entirely accurate. Defense buildups throughout the last decades have infused enormous amounts of money, through lucrative and often wasteful government contracts, into the economy, transferring hard earned tax dollars into profits and jobs, but nobody really calls that socialism

In the US the term socialism is only used to describe some programs. Programs that seek to help big businesses through tax incentives, even waiving taxes entirely, particularly by state and local governments, are referred to as being pro-growth. Programs that help mostly middle class Americans such as veteran's benefits, social security and Medicare are viewed as government service delivery. However, programs that seek to help the poor, such as the health care bill, are referred to as socialist. Thus socialism for the middle class is not questioned; and socialism for the wealthy is often viewed as a necessary economic strategy, while programs to help the poor are presented as dangerously subversive. There is, of course, a high degree of hypocrisy in this view, but it reflects how the right wing has largely succeeded in framing this.

Accordingly, it is much easier to mobilize Americans against the idea of socialism, rather than the policies themselves. It is almost certain that most of the Tea Party demonstrators who are so against health care reform because they view it is socialism would be demonstrating even more passionately and actively if they were told that the government was going to do away with Social Security or Medicare because of a need to balance the budget.

The specific irony about the movement against the health care reform bill is that the passion and red-baiting was directed against a bill that was not only the kind of legislation that should have been popular among moderate, pro-market Republicans, but that similar legislation was supported by pro-market Republicans. It is one thing to call President Obama and the Democratic Party socialists because, you know, they like helping poor people and community organizing. Making these attacks against the likes of Mitt Romney or George H.W. Bush, would be unequivocally nutty, but both of these Republicans supported very similar legislation in the past.

The anger and passion expressed in the Tea Party movement is obviously unfocused and plagued by logical inconsistencies, but it is also genuine and strongly felt. The ease with which this anger was transformed into anti-socialist hatred aimed at a bill that, while certainly objectionable to partisans of the left and the right, has few components that can be described as socialist, reveals both the depth of this anger and the power the word socialist still has to instill fear in many Americans. The passage of the bill, and the likelihood of there being little political fallout for its passage indicates that for many Americans the need for better policy and more government assistance still trumps fear mongering and name calling.

 
 
 
 
 
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04:06 AM on 03/31/2010
Socialism means that benefits come from the government. Capitalism means benefits come from corporations. The extremes of either ideology do not work. Completely Socialist means that there is no productivity. Completely Capitalist means that the power divide gets bigger, infrastructure crumbles, and the majority of people, hard working or not, suffer. Furthermore, I believe that the power of each ideology needs to be in flux, otherwise the problems of the extremes start to occur.
The Capitalist Banks, Enron, Health care and so on had the power. It failed from too much power. Now the power is going to the government. It needs to and will or the corporations will become to powerful. Obviously, later on the government will become too powerful and it will have to swing back.
The change is happening, and it is scary for those that have their power invested in corporations at the moment. But sometimes you have to trust a government that you have elected, over a corporation that is legally obligated to it's shareholders, not it's customers.
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allenwsmith
09:28 PM on 03/30/2010
Now that coverage of health care reform is fading from the news, it is being replaced with increased coverage of Social Security. That is appropriate, but most of the articles, currently being published, including this one, totally ignore the most urgent problem facing Social Security. That problem is the fact that, every dollar of the $2.5 trillion in surplus Social Security revenue, generated by the 1983 payroll tax hike has already been spent by the government. The trust fund contains no real assets. It is empty!

Any doubts about whether or not the trust fund holds any real assets should be removed by the following statement from the 2009 Social Security Trustees Report:

“Neither the redemption of trust fund bonds, nor interest paid on those bonds, provides any new net income to the Treasury, which must finance redemptions and interest payments through some combination of increased taxation, reductions in other government spending, or additional borrowing from the public.â€

I urge everyone who cares about the future of Social Security to please visit my website at www.thebiglie.net to learn more about Social Security and my efforts to expose the scam. Excerpts from my latest book, “THE BIG LIE: How Our Government Hoodwinked the Public, Emptied the S.S. Trust Fund, and caused The Great Economic Collapse,†are posted on the site. Please feel free to download them.

Allen W. Smith, Ph.D.
Professor of Economics Emeritus
Eastern Illinois University
Website: www.thebiglie.net
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Sneakers1
Animal Lover
07:34 PM on 03/30/2010
What has become evident is that w/the exception of most HP posters, most Americans don't have a clue what they're talking about when it comes to healthcare reform. Some of the comments that I read on CNN & Yahoo are enough to make your head spin like Linda Blair's. For example, I've read several commentrs on CNN that this healthcare bill is going to pay for 30 million illegal immgrant's healthcare? I won't even mention that nuts that post that Obama is a Kenyan & this some sort of communist plot. Then there's an an obvious Republican the other day who was so upset about the healthcare reform & I asked her why. She was so mad it was going to affect her insurance. How? No clue.

Americans really need to spend a lot more $ in education as it's obvious we're raising a bunch of idi*ots, who breed more idi*ots. But then again, why should I spend more of my hard-earned money in taxes for people for who obviously can't think for themselves & prefer to follow people like Palin & Glenn Beck & pass the hatred onto their children?
05:00 PM on 03/30/2010
THE TEA PARTY IS NOT ABOUT SOCIALISM!

Before it was hi-jacked by neo-cons to supplant the same talking points that the Republicans use, the tea party was originaly very very different. - IT WAS ABOUT BAIL OUTS!!!!!!

George Bush betrayed Republicans when Paulson decided to bail out Goldman Sachs.

The media like this article, is making a fool all out of all of us by saying we're angry because of 'spending' - that's ridiculous.

We, at the lower 80% of the income bracket, favor spending our own taxpayer money on certain social programs like Medi-care and Social Security ..

....but spending on bailing out Goldman Sachs? - NO

Now this health-care fiaco is mandating we bail out the bankrupt HMOs with our taxes!

To say that person is angry about 'spending' his own money on himself is RIDICULOUS!

Of course we like 'spending' money, just as much as the next Democrat but not on STUPID BAIL OUTS
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Animal Lover
07:07 PM on 03/30/2010
I agree w/you about the bailouts -- but respecfully disagree on healthcare reform. All Americans (like all other industrialized countries) should have affordable access to healthcare.

Also, why aren't you protesting the spending on the wars? Those are 2 social programs for the Middle East that I would rather not spend my taxper $ on.
11:31 PM on 03/30/2010
Oh please - the reality of the GS bailout was that if we let them go the whole global economy would have gone down, w/USA leading the descent into a new DEPRESSION.

It was a bitter pill to swallow, but the collapse was carefully engineered years before with the removal of DEPRESSION era regulation that the GOP championed in the last year of a very weak and beleaguered lame duck Clinton. It's almost certain that Clinton agreed to sign the bill to be left in peace to ride off into the sunset. Politics! That was the GOP betrayal NOT the GS bailout. The bailout was the cherry on top! You can thank Phil Gramm & Co.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commodity_Futures_Modernization_Act_of_2000
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gramm–Leach–Bliley_Act

Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act passed in November 1999, repealing the BHCA and portions of the Glass-Steagall Act
11:37 PM on 03/30/2010
...it serves no meaningful purpose to pick up on history at a point in time where events conveniently support your argument. You point out the effect, without attributing the cause...
04:39 PM on 03/30/2010
Socialism. Medicare. Medicaid. "The passage of the bill, and the likelihood of THEIR (there???) being little political fallout for its passage indicates that for many Americans..."
04:38 PM on 03/30/2010
Socialism. Medicare. Medicaid. "The passage of the bill, and the likelihood of THEIR (there???) being little political fallout for its passage indicates that for many Americans..." So much for correct English grammar which is almost non existent on this site.
04:37 PM on 03/30/2010
"The passage of the bill, and the likelihood of THEIR (there???) being little political fallout for its passage indicates that for many Americans..." So much for correct English grammar which is almost non existent on this site.
04:27 PM on 03/30/2010
Sara Palin's whole family is on Government run healthcare because of Todd's Native American Heritage. Go figure.
T-Haight
What was wrong with federalism?
04:20 PM on 03/30/2010
Try a dictionary. Socialism is state ownership of industries (e.g., the healthcare industry or the airlines).

When a bill effectively makes all healthcare insurers (and thus by proxy all healthcare providers) wards of the state, that's proxy socialism. Given the propensity of government to abuse its market position, crowding out the private insurers is likely, thus leading to a full government monopoly over the health sector.

Such an outcome would be socialism for that industry.

By contrast, Social Security is a supplemental program. There are literally trillions of dollars in private retirement accounts today, and most retired Americans rely more on their savings than Social Security. The public market is supplementing the private market in that instance, not replacing it. A fully socialist proposal would outlaw private retirement savings accounts. Fortunately, nothing like that could ever pass, but health care is on a road to a similar condition.
04:36 PM on 03/30/2010
Social Security is a investment scheme in government securities and a poor one, at best. The pay back is about two percent versus from three to four percent for long term securities. If properly run, the debt would be on the books and serve as a warning signal to public and politicians, alike.
ThinkCreeps
Seriously, it's time.
04:55 PM on 03/30/2010
Your dictionary needs a bit of a refresh. Socialism includes much of the `promote the general welfare' bit of the preamble to the US constitution.
06:38 PM on 03/30/2010
No. In political theory this is not true.

His definition is correct from the standpoint of a political scientist. "general welfare", "the greater good", etc. is a result of interpretations placed on the theory itself; not the basis of the theory in question.
04:02 PM on 03/30/2010
Keep your government hands off my Medi-care. Enough said.
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lordmi
03:53 PM on 03/30/2010
upset with an article.
it should highlight the difference between Social - for Society needs and Socialism, which is connected with a property issue - Government 's rights on all the property in the state.
Tea baggers along with idiot palin with very low education, they did not get it or don't want to.
But serious article in public place should make it.
There is NO socialism in the bill ( trust me, who lived under Socialism during 40 years) .
But bill aimed on solving Social Problems.
And Government has Obligation to do so.
Government has this Obligation for the Society and tea baggers also
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429freckles
Ex Republican Now Devoted Democrat
03:41 PM on 03/30/2010
Very good article. Thank you for writing it.
03:39 PM on 03/30/2010
I find the most disturbing thing to be the majority of the people across the land were against the HCR, but the gov passed it anyway. There is the base for the tea party movement. Anyone whom i vote for that turns on me and tells me i dont know what is good for me is an enemy to the american way of life, and therefore is part of an institution to be feared. Remember your basic civics class left =tyranny in the form of big brother government. right = freedom where the governings powers are still controlled by the governed.
03:59 PM on 03/30/2010
Bagger and republicans do not constitute a majority. And, apparently, you learned civics in, I'm guessing, Texas. The only freedom the right is interested in is the freedom to be a white man toting a gun while telling women what to do.
04:17 PM on 03/30/2010
the civics lesson was text book. All 50 states were heard as No by the public.
and obviously you have racial issues. in your world i wouldnt be allowed to say anything to offend you but in the real one you contitute the pay me for nothing ignorance that has become such a thorn in the side.
04:08 PM on 03/30/2010
The majority of the people across the land, using your words, were against the tax cuts for the
rich, but the Republican led gov passed it anyway. Anyone that turns on us and tells us we dont
know what is good for us is an enemy to the American way of life. Sound familiar.
T-Haight
What was wrong with federalism?
04:22 PM on 03/30/2010
But note that the tax cuts had an expiration date. Where in the healthcare bill does it say that the bill phases out in 10 years?
04:25 PM on 03/30/2010
you are correct joe. I do not associate with any party but i also do not see the tea "baggers as you call them as just republican. Instead i associate them with the sons of liberty. In the movement to remind the government that they speak for the avarage joe (no pun intended) not tell joe what he will and will not do.
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DAE
03:10 PM on 03/30/2010
Let the right wing define socialism in terms of the palliatives that help sustain capitalism because these programs, as well as the recent Health Insurance reforms are, in the case of SS and MC, or soon will be, as with HIR, widely supported by most Americans. This might ameliorate the stigma attached to the word socialism. Once a discussion of what socialism is or is not back on the table perhaps true alternatives to the capitalist system, which is destroying our country and the planet, will finally be entertained.
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balmora
03:24 PM on 03/30/2010
Before you attack capitalism too harshly let's point out that it is not capitalism itself that is "destroying our country". Corporatism redoubtably, but not capitalism itself. Capitalism is the mechanism by which average men or women of humble means can generate wealth for himself without being dependent upon selling his or her labor to others. You likely know of several people yourself who are small business owners or otherwise self employed. The free market has made this country the great nation it is today and never has there been a time when a country prospered as much as the United States under the free market.
03:59 PM on 03/30/2010
"without being dependent upon selling his or her labor to others."

But capitalism requires that someone be willing to sell his/her labor to others. You omit capitalism's other function, to create employment for those not willing to create wealth for themselves. They are opposing functions, for the creation of wealth often entails cutting costs wherever possible, and labor costs are almost always one of the first casualties.

I know you did not attack socialism, balmora, but I wanted to say why I see the social safety net for the poor as essential to a true free market economy. Though I do take issue with your statement about the free market's responsibility in making our nation great. Define "great" and state capitalism's role in making it so. I recall much of what built this country was slave labor and cheap immigrant and child labor.
04:02 PM on 03/30/2010
bla bla bla

I suggest you put down uncle milties neoliberal teachings and research this a bit further

the free market is not free at all....the reason you love capitalism sooo much is because it is, or was, regulated

if it wasn't, you'd be working for 3 cents a day and singing a very different tune
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balmora
03:02 PM on 03/30/2010
I really can not understand why so many seemingly well meaning people believe in redistributing wealth. You can not operate a society by robbing from productive individuals to provide goods and services free of charge to non productive individuals. Every mother must eventually pull the child away from the teat. Has it not also been said the it is better to teach a man to fish than to feed him for a day? We continue to feed men every day while in doing so we destroy the country that has the most opportunity for him to be netting fish. I know personally many people who have become self employed and extremely successful by their own merit, because this is a land of opportunity, but it will not remain so if we ruin the free market that allows individuals to strive and fosters the creation of individual wealth.
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as promised
Educ yourself re David Barton & his followers
03:37 PM on 03/30/2010
Goods and services free of charge?
Non-productive?
That's a rather broad brush you are presuming to use on a very tiny segment of society.
Most are actually tax-paying individuals in lower-paying jobs than those like yourself who were born of the right families on the right side of the tracks.
I think you need to 'get out more' because there are a great many countries doing a much better balancing act between capitalism and so-called socialism (i.e. the teat you refer to) than the mighty US of A.
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balmora
03:55 PM on 03/30/2010
When proponents of the health care bill touted it as "free healthcare", they implied that a good or service (in this case a service) was going to be offered free of charge. Which of course those with even a rudimentary background in economics can attest is not possible. There is always a charge for goods and services, but the person who receives the g/s may not be the same person charged for it. Food stamps would be an example of this. Hense, the rule of wealth redistribution.

I mean absolutely no offense by the term "nonproductive", using it strictly in the academic sense. Not loosely to imply laziness but merely meaning those unable to produce the means to sustain themselves without assistance.

I have always been a charitable person, but the more I am taxed the less I can afford to give.

I have always preferred charity over entitlement programs because once something is declared an entitlement people come to view it as something they have a right to expect others to pay for.

People need a home to live in as much as they need healthcare, but the moment the federal government taxes the entire country in order give a home to those who are homeless, we cease to be a free people. Do not allow tyranny to disguise itself as charity. The welfare of the people has long been the alibi of tyrants.
04:04 PM on 03/30/2010
Capitalism = the redistribution of wealth to the upper 1%

I really can not understand why so many seemingly well meaning people believe in such a system
T-Haight
What was wrong with federalism?
04:25 PM on 03/30/2010
Maybe because after a solid 50 years of capitalism even those living at the poverty line have access to better healthcare and luxuries than the richest man of 100 years ago could even dream about?

Is that so horrible?