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Surviving Under the Same Roof

Posted: 05/04/2012 12:35 pm

Shelly heard the car door slam and checked the clock on her nightstand. Three AM! Joe* had some nerve to rub his social life in her face. She tried to fall back asleep but tossed and turned for the rest of the night.

This was absolute torture. They had made the decision to divorce ages ago. Their home was their most substantial asset and they needed to sell it in in order for both of them to afford suitable living situations going forward.

The realtor had assured them they'd priced their house realistically and that they'd be able to find a buyer within six months. But this had been dragging on for over a year, and they hadn't had any legitimate offers to consider. When they first agreed that they'd be able to work out separate living arrangements within the home to give each other enough space and dignity, they were both optimistic they would be able to cooperate so they and their children would survive the transition emotionally unscathed. What they didn't anticipate was how living under one roof would dampen their spirits and compromise their abilities to transition to new lives.

Just ask any matrimonial attorney or therapist. They'll report that one of the most excruciating casualties of our current financial and real estate downturn has been the emotional toll on families when their hands are tied, and they're not able to sell their home in a timely manner. Once a couple determines they are no longer able to live together as a family, there is usually a protracted period of adjustment, both emotionally and financially.

The above arrangement adds an additional layer of confusion and anxiety, which often stands in the way of a comfortable transition. This is especially painful if either or both members of the couple have lasting or ambivalent feelings about ending the relationship. Seeing each other daily may be like picking a scab, repeatedly drawing pain at each encounter. What becomes cruelly hurtful is to be confronted by reminders that the other has moved on in his life. Even if there is an attempt to show sensitivity or discretion, there will be ongoing hurts and humiliations that cannot be avoided.

So what steps can families take, when they have no choice, but to live separated, together?

First off, if you can, make sure to get closure. Clarify if there is a possibility of reconciliation or else there may be mixed messages. Either or both of you may put too much emphasis on words and gestures, hoping they mean something they don't. This can leave either of you vulnerable or humiliated, and ultimately may increase the wrath, when it becomes apparent that feelings are not reciprocated.

No matter how you ultimately behave in front of the children, the situation is bound to cause upset and confusion, at least some of the time. If you treat each other shabbily, the children usually cringe and are uncertain whether to intervene, hide or endure. When parents do have the maturity to remain civil, and even cordial, it's not uncommon for the children (and often the partner) to slide into denial, praying that maybe things have improved and the breakup can be forestalled. When they are inevitably reminded that the breakup is indeed happening, the hurt may become fresh again.

To head off this confusion it will be important to clearly communicate what has and will be happening, and why the family is living in this transitional stage. If the breakup is definite, an unambiguous message that this is an interim step while the adults are planning for the next stages, may head off some insecurity and confusion.

Details and financial particulars need not be spelled out to avoid introducing a level of worry and fear that the family may not have the means to sufficiently care for the children. At all times, it will be very important for both of you to reassure the children of your commitment to their well-being and your intention to cooperate as best as you can under the situation.

If possible, you should define who's in charge of what, and who will be paying for it. Trying to set up a structure and routine both of you can commit to, and the children can count on, is enormously important. We all know how much more secure children feel when their routines are predictable. At a time of family upheaval, this becomes all the more important. If you and your ex-partner can communicate that you're on the same page with values and expectations, you'll be better able to join together to head off the children playing one against the other.

Even if you're furious with each other, if you can find it in your hearts to encourage your children to have independent, loving relationships with the other parent, you'll be minimizing a conflict of loyalties. Both of you should be more comfortable if you each have established private space in the home, so you have a secure, comfortable place to relax and safeguard important belongings.

Be mindful of common civilities. Setting boundaries and respecting personal space will be important, especially in tight quarters. There will be times neither of you wants to see the other's face! This offense will be magnified if there's been a rude disregard for previously agreed upon courtesies. When emotions are raw, it won't take much to set off volatile upheavals. In other words: You know the very things that will push buttons and cause the wrath of your ex.

If you are hurting, you may be tempted to do the very things that will trigger an explosion, and to then innocently say "what's the problem?" For example, if you use your ex's car, don't let them discover you've left their gas tank on dead empty first thing in the morning, as they head off to work. Replace the milk carton if you're the last one to use it, so they won't discover there's no milk for the morning cereal. Avoid sarcasm or blatant evidence that you are enjoying the "good life" while your partner may be wallowing in a place of sorrow or anger. If you can both agree to spending a certain amount of time apart from the home, it gives everyone a chance to let off steam and for each of you to have quality time with the children.

Your children will be watching your every move, and will take their lead from you. If you speaking civilly and respectfully, there is a tacit message that they are expected to behave the same. Be aware, that today's children are unusually tech-savvy. Be discreet with your laptops and smart phones, deleting histories as you go along. Assume that your children will be secretly devouring your technology trails. You should be ever mindful there's a very good chance they'll be privy to personal communications you intended to stay private.

Be mature and discreet about your social activities. While we all enjoy adult companionship when we are lonely, this is an especially fragile time for the children. You want to clearly communicate to your children that their needs are a priority. Introducing your children prematurely to your new "friends" is not only inconsiderate, but hurtful and confusing.

There may be few things lonelier than sharing living space with a person you once loved, when the tie has been broken. When you are lying awake in the wee hours of the morning your heart may take you to a very fragile place if you haven't built in safeguards to shore up your inner resources. Now is the time to reach out to the other people in your life who will support you warmly and positively. Involve yourself in activities that should move your life to a better place. Brush up your resume or take courses if you would like to advance your career. Networking opportunities may not only enhance your career, but offer new social contacts. Exercise offers a physical and emotional boost, and is also a means of socializing. Staying positive, and looking forward should hopefully support you and your family as you look to the future.

*Not their real names

Linda Lipshutz, M.S., LCSW is a psychotherapist serving individuals, couples and families. A Palm Beach Gardens, Florida resident, she holds degrees from Cornell and Columbia and trained at the Ackerman Institute for Family Therapy in Manhattan. She can be reached at her Gardens office at 561 630 2827, or online at www.palmbeachfamilytherapy.com.

 
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Shelly heard the car door slam and checked the clock on her nightstand. Three AM! Joe* had some nerve to rub his social life in her face. She tried to fall back asleep but tossed and turned for the re...
Shelly heard the car door slam and checked the clock on her nightstand. Three AM! Joe* had some nerve to rub his social life in her face. She tried to fall back asleep but tossed and turned for the re...
 
 
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blindskeeter
What's the reason (goal) for a drug war again?
08:02 PM on 05/07/2012
Misery is a better word for it
05:44 PM on 05/07/2012
I am surprised he is still there. Usualy the guy gets kicked out of the house and made to live in a cardboard box under a bridge!
05:08 PM on 05/07/2012
I would have my own place, even if it was less than what I wanted. Unfortunately, ex's can become vicious people. After being divorced 20 years, I could probably live in peace with my ex. It took 15 years for us to become civil. Now, were actually friendly. He calls and yaps away like I'm his best buddy. Oh, but in those first several years, it was War!
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Kelly Carroll
03:38 PM on 05/07/2012
Perhaps try renting the family home out. That would at least pay that bill, so the divorced pair could live seperately. It might work out if there's kids involved, as there's usually someone around to watch them if they're little, but then what if you both have a date? Who's date is more important? Or both pay for the babysitter? Yeah, I'd recommend renting it out.
12:15 PM on 05/07/2012
Bad idea, especially if one of the parties cheated. Even worse if the cheater cheated in the family home. The worse yet is if there are kids in the home because the kids think reconcillaition is in the works and have to live with the uncertainty and re-live the same pain every time the cheater goes out. Unhealthy for all involved. Best to suck up the financial hit and get the hard part behind you. People can be so selfish!
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Big---Time
02:29 PM on 05/06/2012
This is exactly why Jesus said, "Every one who divorces his wife and marries another commits adultery, and he who marries a woman divorced from her husband commits adultery" (Luke 16:8 KJV).
Of course if you are an athiest or agnostic or, just a person who claims "Chrisianity" but dismisses the commandments of the Lord, it doesn't mean much I guess.
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qsfoxx
still chasing the wascally wabbit...
11:04 AM on 05/06/2012
In a nutshell, treat other people with respect and kindness - including your ex. Act. Do not react - especially to harsh words or criticism. Do not argue because nobody ever 'won' an argument; they only think they did.
07:34 AM on 05/09/2012
Unfortunately,these are easy words to say ... but in reality almost impossible to fulfill unless both individuals have not done something really awful to the other - and both have chosen to be civilized and forgiving. That rarely happens ... divorce is emotional and painful.

Usually there has been some serious long term problems and resentments that have led to a divorce ... including cheating, lying, verbal and/or physical abuse, addiction ...etc. I tried the "ignoring" approach many times ... but my being quiet just seemed to provoke even more hostile behaviors specifically intended to antagonize and torment me. My spouse would literally stand over my shoulder when I would try to quietly work and disengage ... all the while he would just keep saying degrading and provocative things, making it impossible for me to concentrate - not stopping until he got a reaction out of me. It is a horrible way to live and no matter what I did, I was helpless change my spouse's overbearingly hostile and intrusive behavior.
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qsfoxx
still chasing the wascally wabbit...
08:55 AM on 05/09/2012
In that case I'd recommend "How To Deal With Verbal Aggression: At work at home or on the street" by Robert Agar-Hutton
10:51 AM on 05/06/2012
Once you hit age 50, normal people realize that the crap that you thought was so important, isn't. Divorced people quite often regret getting divorced, once the hormones are no longer raging and they suddenly become sane.
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frank1946
Tell the Truth
09:32 AM on 05/06/2012
Isn't Marriage wonderful ?

Better to have a 5 year lease w/Options to extend ?

Men, It's only about the $$$.
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dadw5boys
Disabled Vietnam Vet
12:36 PM on 05/05/2012
If you got kids grow up put your ego and sexual needs in nutral till your living on your own.
This growing up part will most likely solve the problems on both sides.
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MissFrijole
My bite is worse than my bark.
08:19 AM on 05/05/2012
My ex stayed at my apartment for a month before finally leaving. He had to transfer his job back home, to where his mommy lived. In that month, every day was full of him making insults at me and asking me some very mean questions. He was full of self-pity. He told me he regretted all the time we spent together. I let him say what he wanted, since I initiated the split. It was horrible. We never got any closure. One day, I came home from work and he was gone, without a word.
11:38 AM on 05/06/2012
Several things that are just wrong here - the first insult to you and he should have been out the door, no talking, just gone! It sounds like you tried to reassure him and reason with him and a break-up is not the time for either, if he/she can live there for an unspecified time while looking for another place or if they have a set date to be gone, ground rules have to be made and adhered to (no insults, no arguing, nothing like that). It sounds like he played the guilt card and you let him - you say you put up with it because you intiated the split - so what? If the relationship had been working and good, there wouldn't have been a split so using your logic, he was the problem and he should have felt guilty! Then when he finally does leave, you don't like it that he just left without saying anything to you! Why do you think that anything he said to you would be good, that he'd be grateful for letting him stay and be ugly to you? You should be absolutely thrilled that he did just leave without having to listen to more of his BS! And yes, I do know about this - my ex-husband and I lived together for 6 months while going through a divorce so I've got the experience to back it up (in other words, I know what not to do)!
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Beth Hefty
If I didn't laugh I'd slit my wrists
07:02 AM on 05/08/2012
Sometimes you can't get closure. I think it's an overrated concept anyway.
04:10 PM on 05/04/2012
The rest of the story ...

Since he works nights, we rarely run into each other and alternate weekends "with" our son. While we are able to co-exist like this, it's an almost daily reminder why we aren't married anymore, lol.

And I don't know about him, but I do date and am upfront about it with people so they know there is NOTHING going on. It's odd, but it works for us for now. It's better than having a stranger for a roommate or living in a bad part of town.
11:40 AM on 05/06/2012
If it works for both of you and your son, then it works and it's fine! I commend both of you for coming up with solutions to money, living arrangements and "visitation." None of these are easy living on your own or with somebody else and, like you stated, at least you know him and each of you know what to expect from the other! Everybody continue living "normally!" :)
04:09 PM on 05/04/2012
Here's a good one for you: My ex and I have been divorced for 6 years and lived apart for for first 5. Yes, we are now under the same roof.

I moved to a city about an hour away for a better job and brought our son because the schools were better. Not long after he lost his job. He went back to school but couldn't find work for about a year. Our 8yo son spent the weekends with him. I was able to make ends meet, barely. One day he said he want to move here to find a job and he asked if he could stay in my spare bedroom and pay rent for until he found a job. It's been 16 months. He works nights and pays rent on time. He picks our son up from school, spends a few hours with him and brings him to my office before work, or I'm home before he leaves. Awkward? Yeah. But it works, mainly because we're on friendly terms.

Our son knows we're divorced, to the point that he regularly corrects his friends when they address me by my married last name. He also knows that his dad will move out when he can. While we're both employed, we've taken pay cuts so our companies can avoid layoffs, it's hard to make things work in this economy.
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jf12
Esta vez saldré como las otras y me escaparé.
12:14 PM on 05/08/2012
Wow, I'm surprised at you. Every other similar situation I've ever heard of, the woman gets all fussy and weepy about her ex, since she can no longer tell him what to do.
01:14 PM on 05/08/2012
Haha ... I don't really care what he does, as long as it doesn't hurt our son. We're both 100 percent committed to our son, so that's that. I gave up on him helping around the house way before we were even divorced, so I just handle it. And I have extra money to take our son skiing in Colorado with my family this winter. :)
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scotchleaf
Now go away, or I shall taunt you a second time!
03:02 PM on 05/04/2012
If you are a woman, get into a fight with your ex and then go file a Petition TPO (teporary protective order). Often you can have your ex ejected from the home, gain immediate custody of the children, obtain an order for him to pay child support and often the utilities and mortgage. When its he said-she said, you'll almost always win if you have a reasonable fear for your safety.

(No, this hasn't happened to me, but it has happened to many of my clients - I am an attorney, but not YOUR attorney. Nothing I say here or in PM's is legal advice. Most of it is not the product of careful legal research and analysis anyway. There is no attorney-client relationship from the posting, chatting and Q&A that I do here. Get a lawyer licensed in your state)
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A level Head
Consumption not investment requires subsidy
06:30 PM on 05/04/2012
A good illustration of why lawyers are considered less than .. (fill in the blanK)

After following your advice ...

The children are scarred for life
the assets become attorney fees as both parties get angry
What may be a friendly if awkward living arrangement turns into a war

Frankly you should be disbarred
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scotchleaf
Now go away, or I shall taunt you a second time!
05:13 PM on 05/08/2012
I was making a statement from the position of an attorney who has represented too many men victimized in this manner.
01:35 AM on 05/05/2012
Lordy!
02:22 PM on 05/04/2012
This is so hard to do. I love my wife and we are in the beginnings of our ultimate seperation. I want to work on the marriage and stay together. She wants out. We slept in the same bed up until a few days ago. (She goes on the couch when im asleep, and goes through my phone). Our kids see her on the couch every night and morning. She doesnt care what they see or hear. I have been approached by our oldest as to whats going on. I have told him to not worry, we will talk to him soon. Everyday i pray that she will wake up and be a different person. The person i married and loved dearly. But i dont think that will happen. I will be in the same scenario as the story and its going to suck.
RealistBC
Micro-bios must pass muster.
02:36 PM on 05/04/2012
Dude! Why is she going through your phone?

There is only one way to give this a chance to work out as you want it. You have to let her try on a separation. Suggest that she do so before beginning a divorce.

Unless you beat her up. Then I have to retract my advice.
07:47 AM on 05/05/2012
She goes through my phone to delete the hateful texts she sends me so that nobody can see them.

I have never laid a hand on her.
08:00 AM on 05/05/2012
Man, I hate to say it, but it sounds like there is obviously someone else. If she is heading down there every night after you are asleep, it's not just to clean up the texts she sent you but sound slike classic signs of an emotional or even physical affair where she is communicating with the OP after you are asleep.
09:41 AM on 05/05/2012
Thats a possibility maybe from the home phone. But im sure one of our older sons would have caught her on the phone late a night. They come home at all hours ( 23,27 yrs old). But i know she isnt texting from her cell. We have a family plan. I would have seen it. When i have confronted her on deleting the texts from my phone, shes says because she doesnt want me showing people what she has told me. Too bad i couldnt print them out.

Ugh.