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When A Daughter Wants Her Nose Pierced

Posted: 05/ 2/2012 12:33 pm

Parenting often means running out of hands. Not only as in "I only have two of them, and I have three children," but also, like Tevye in "Fiddler on the Roof," when he does the "on the one hand, on the other hand" game while trying to solve his ever more difficult parenting dilemmas.

A few weeks ago, writer Eleni Gage caused an uproar with an essay about her decision to pierce her 6-month-old daughter's ears. For her, the "one hand" was her husband's family tradition, and the other was her own ambivalence about wanting to allow the girl to make that choice for herself, and the third was the outrage of the internet, where, she wrote in a follow-up essay, she was "called self-satisfied, low-class, controlling, shallow, sexist, smug, priggish, crazed, repulsive, creepy, trashy, frivolous, provincial, disgusting, and just plain horrible."

Today , on the Modern Parenthood blog of The Christian Science Monitor, Judy Bolton-Fasman has advanced the dilemma by more than a decade and moved it to the center of the face. Her 16-year-old has lobbied for a nose piercing for two years, she writes, and her parents "hands" were their dislike of the look, their Jewish tradition which definitely forbids tattoos -- but may or may not forbid piercings -- and their daughter's insistence that she be allowed to establish her own identity.

Yes, they got to the "I will be 18 soon and can do what I please" argument that hovers over nearly every conversation between teens and their parents. And it was a roundabout version of that argument that eventually swayed her Mom and Dad, but only because Anna used it not to threaten her parents but rather to turn them to mush.

For two years Anna begged, argued, and yes, threw mild tantrums all in the name of establishing her own identity. She tried to highlight the fact that she would be 18 sooner rather than later and wouldn't need our permission to pierce any part of her body. To her credit, she also said that she wouldn't go ahead with the piercing at any age if Ken ultimately objected. When he heard that he got choked up and gave in to his little girl.

I have two sons. I've never had to decide whether to pierce an infants ears, nor have they ever asked to do so on their own. But I have never seen pierced ears as a line in the sand. If they'd wanted to, or if it were my husband's tradition, why not?

Pierced nose, on the other hand? That would make me a little uncomfortable. Is that the way they want the world to see them? Full nose ring? That's a hand too far. Tattoos? Forget about it.

Looking at my ranked list of body decor, I realize that the differences are not actual ones, but rather measures of my own perceptions. (Okay, the tattoos are permanent while the others aren't, so I feel particularly justified in that distinction.) Still, I find them hard to shake.

As Tevye eventually said, after he compromised, and bent and adjusted for most of the film, sometimes there is no other hand.

And yet...

Where are your parenting lines? How often have you changed them?

 
 
 

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Parenting often means running out of hands. Not only as in "I only have two of them, and I have three children," but also, like Tevye in "Fiddler on the Roof," when he does the "on the one hand, on th...
Parenting often means running out of hands. Not only as in "I only have two of them, and I have three children," but also, like Tevye in "Fiddler on the Roof," when he does the "on the one hand, on th...
 
 
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06:26 PM on 05/07/2012
My parents said no to piercings, and it wasn't until I was 19 that I decided to get my nose, navel, and lip pierced. Several years have passed since, and I retired the lip ring because it just wasn't me... but I don't have a single regret about it. I find that most places are accepting of diversity these days. I work in a professional environment, and it is more important that I am an intelligent, competent person... than it is that I have a diamond in my nose.
I like to do a lot of research before I do anything (buying a coffee maker is like a 2 week process for me) so it was natural for me to do a lot of research about piercings, complications, and where to go before I got my nose pierced. Not everyone will put as much thought into their piercings, and for that reason, I think it's important that if your child brings it up-- at least they should be informed! I know people who have rebelled... and gone out against their parents wishes and got tattoos or piercings at sketchy parlors that don't ID. Trust me... it would be way more worth it to allow your child to get a piercing, and help guide them safely... than to say no, and they rebel, going to a sketchy shop because they heard that the piercer won't ask their age, and wind up with AIDS or Hep C.
02:11 AM on 05/07/2012
I don't see a problem with letting kids get their ears pierced. Because the skin will heal completely if you take the jewellery out, and your ear lobe is set in size.
As for the nose... I don't have any kids, but I'm sure I'd put my foot down and say "not until you are 18 and will pay for it yourself with your own money". Navel - it can be hidden so I think that's fine, but again I would say wait until they were I think 16, because before then your body is still growing.
There is someone I am acquainted with you has two holes on his head, next to his eye - i think he had an eyebrow piercing when he was younger and his skin moved. Way back when I was in highschool, a girl laughed about her brother who had a tattoo put onto his wrist when he was 14, and as he got older, it ended up stretching and moving closer to his elbow (as the skin stretched to accommodate bone growth underneath).
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10:06 PM on 05/06/2012
I hate to see parents pushing themselves into the 'tribal ' rituals of the teenagers. Competing with your own kid for social attention is sad. Let them have their piercing,etc. You wouldn't have wanted your parents dressing like you when you were a kid.
05:48 PM on 05/03/2012
Let teens pierce whatever they wish. Then tell them to get a job and see how many people take them seriously.
06:35 PM on 05/07/2012
You would be surprised how many people take me seriously because I am an intelligent, respectable person... I know it may seem crazy to think that because I have a diamond in my nose... but believe it or not, my jewelery doesn't dictate my work ethic or my competence.
08:56 PM on 05/07/2012
But it does dictate how people judge you. Regardless if they know you or not.
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04:45 PM on 05/03/2012
almost all the girls come home from their 1st semester of college with their nose pierced. a stud in it is not so bad, but the nosering really unnerves me.
02:38 PM on 05/03/2012
That's one thing I never understood about my parents. I have one ear pierced but nothing else. They flat refused to allow myself or my brother to pierce ANYTHING else. However, and I flat asked them this, they had no problem at all if we were to get full body tattoo work done.
01:06 PM on 05/03/2012
I have a small stud in my nose, and I love it. My son had been asking about getting his ears pierced, so I took him with me when I had my nose done so he could see what it was all about. We went to a local piercing place, not a strip mall store, and they use needles instead of the unsanitary and rather scary piercing gun. I figured if he really wanted his ears done he needed to see how it is done correctly. He is going to be 13 soon, and I have told him when he turns 13 he can get his ears pierced if he still wants to, and he does. He has not wavered for three years, and I trust him to be able to make decisions about his body as long as I am there to guide him. I have no problem with teens being pierced, but for some reason I think it is very wrong to do that to a baby. They have no idea what is going on, can not sit still very long, and the dreaded piercing gun is usually used (they are not sanitized between clients and can cause serious infections as well as crooked piercing).
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10:00 AM on 05/03/2012
the bottom line as long as she/he is a minor and living under your roof its your decision. If you say no there is no other option for your kids. Body piercing like tatoos is hard to reverse. think hard before you do it. As an adult its a different story you want it do it
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Amber Hinds
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12:09 AM on 05/04/2012
It's not exactly true that they don't have other options, especially with piercings which they can do themselves or have a friend do.  And how safe and sanitary is that?

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10:01 PM on 05/06/2012
You missed the barbecuemast's point.The point is that while they live under his roof they won't be getting piercings or tats.If they break the rule they have to find somewhere else to live. Strong decisive parenting. It's not about the actual piercing.Dur.
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09:36 AM on 05/03/2012
My daughter is 16 and asked to get her nose pierced. I think it's an adorable look (the little tiny studs), and said it was fine. That was 6 months ago, and she hasn't done it yet. Maybe my enthusiasm makes it less attractive? Or maybe she'll get around to it this summer? At any rate, she's a great student, works hard at her part time job, is preparing for college, and has yet to rebel in any meaningful way - what the heck?

I'll admit - I won't be quite as enthused about a tattoo. But as long as she carefully considers the placement with what she hopes to do for a career, it'll not really be my business. And it'll be fine.
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07:45 AM on 05/03/2012
So the father in the story didn't want his 16-year-old daughter to get pierced but when he said that if he ultimately objected to it, she wouldn't do it when she turned 18...............so he let her? I am completely baffled by this parenting turnaround.
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09:53 PM on 05/06/2012
The daughter 'played' the old man with the daddy's girl crap. My older sister was the daddy's girl in our family. She totally knew how to 'work' our dad.In the end he would let her have her way.It's just
"manipulation of a dumb male"syndrome.Twas ever thus.
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06:41 AM on 05/03/2012
I had 3 sons and none of them seemed to want to pierce any part of themselves while they were at home. But I told them my rules about such things: piercings or tattoos, once they were on their own, they could. But not while they live a home. We know that many of these things that teens think are so great will not be seen in the same light once they are older.
There were many other such things: 2 of my sons wanted to dress in black a lot. They were not into the goth thing, but just liked black. Since it was something they could take off once they changed their minds, I didn't object.
One son told me he wanted to dye his hair black. I called the school to see if there was any problem. It was not against school rules, so I told him I'd drive him to the drug store to buy some color. At that point, he didn't want to any more.
Good luck with this. I think parents today have a much harder time of it than I did a while ago.
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Amber Hinds
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08:56 PM on 05/02/2012
I have a tattoo, and a couple of my brothers have more than one tattoo.  My mother hates them with a passion, and yet we still got them as soon as legally able to do so.  I wouldn't give my daughter permission to get a tattoo.  With something that permanent, she would have to wait until she was 18 and not in need of a parental permission slip...and I would strongly encourage her to do what I did: small and easily hidden.  Most likely, I would feel the same about body or facial piercings; I haven't given it much thought.  Although, now I'm reminded of girls in middle school piercing their belly buttons with safety pins and I definitely want to avoid her doing that.

As far as pierced ears, I guess we'll wait until she can ask and is capable of cleaning them herself...probably around 10 or 12.   I'm not really into piercing babies and little girls ears since I think earrings are intended to make a woman more attractive and are not really much different from decorating oneself with makeup.  But, I don't really care if other people do it and I don't make class assumptions like many of the commenters on Mrs. Gage's post.

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10:16 PM on 05/03/2012
*like*

My daughter and I both got our first tattoos together shortly after her 18th birthday