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Is Sibling Rivalry Inevitable?

Posted: 10/27/2011 9:49 am

For several years, my husband and I each had our own dog-eared copy of Siblings Without Rivalry: How to Help Your Children Live Together So You Can Live Too within easy reach on our individual bedside tables. The classic, by Adele Faber and Elaine Mazlish became our bible during the seemingly endless period when our two boys viewed each other as the enemy, and Bruce and I were the territory to be conquered. We even learned how to tag team -- one of us stayed put and kept the boys from killing each other while the other ran upstairs to frantically flip through the book for a refresher course.

"May you have children just like you," many a mother has wished on her squabbling children, and my own siblings and I certainly tested my mother the way mine tested me. A famous family photo shows the three of us, still grade-schoolers, at eye level to the three drinking glasses placed before us on a coffee table, monitoring whether one held a smidge more Coke than the others.

But more likely than my sons' rivalry being the result of some karma or curse, it probably reflects the fact that all children compete. Humans are hardwired that way.

"You're dealing with very primal stuff, Biblical, Darwinian," says Adele Faber, one of the co-authors of my life raft of a book. "Two sharks in utero will fight to the death so that just one is born. Two baby eagles, the mother ignores the weaker one and the older one will just peck it to death. It's a constant battle. It's like the pilot light on the stove, you can't put it out, but you have to keep it down to a mere flicker."

Speaking of primal, meet NeanderDad. Garrett Rice, a father of two who works in the tech industry, invented the persona to give voice to his feeling of being the helpless, clueless, bumbling father trying to figure out his children.

He has agreed to write periodic essays for Parentlode (you can read the archives of ones he has already written here.) This first is about sibling rivalry (you've figured that out if you have read this far, right?) and his discovery that he had unwittingly sparked it by...well, I'll let you go read for yourself.

Thinking he needed some advice, I called Faber and had her read Neanderdad's dilemma for herself, too. Not surprisingly, she had some advice:

What a discovery he made. Competition can really motivate kids, who, it's really exciting. But the fallout is really terrible. The fallout creates a toxic relationship, it creates a winner and a loser. And you don't want that. Studies have been done about competition at the workplace, and the hostile environment and physical and emotional symptoms of stress it creates. You don't want that in your home.

The goal, she continued, is to replace competition with cooperation. To do this, you might just have to trick the combatants -- as Neanderdad does.

Instead of beating each other, how about getting them to beat the clock. Things like "can the two of you clean up this room in five minutes? what an amazing team you are!" Or "pick a song on the iPod and see if the two of you can put on your pjs with teeth brushed and ready for story time before the song is over.

That is not exactly what Neanderdad did. You can read his essay here. Then use the comments to discuss sibling rivalry at your house -- and please, share any strategies that have worked...

 
For several years, my husband and I each had our own dog-eared copy of Siblings Without Rivalry: How to Help Your Children Live Together So You Can Live Too within easy reach on our individual bedsid...
For several years, my husband and I each had our own dog-eared copy of Siblings Without Rivalry: How to Help Your Children Live Together So You Can Live Too within easy reach on our individual bedsid...
 
 
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gutenmorgen
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08:43 AM on 10/28/2011
My sister, my only sibling, was five years older than I. We had totally different interests hence there was never any sibling rivalry. In fact, during a 9-month period of the German occupation of the Netherlands when we had no parent at home we cooperated beautifully. Circumstances also play a role.
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10:44 AM on 10/28/2011
Circumstances certainly do. I wonder about that often, how would my children (how would I, for that matter, readjust their expectations and rise to the occasion if they had to.
10:06 PM on 10/27/2011
I had 3 sons. The two oldest fought and argued non-stop. The youngest said, "Why do they act like that?". It was the ''middle boy'' who caused all the problems. I explained that there was no need to compete, That we were all equal. That no one is Judging anyone-just Live and be Happy. Didn't matter, the "Middle Boy" fought and argued and smart-mouthed everyone. It didn't matter that He was the middle one. He was the same way before the youngest was born It was ''just his personality". Still is. He Never Changed and never will. Although He is perfectly happy with people who "Give him his way" in all instances. A Brat? So, I say No..Sibling Rivalry is Not Inevitable. Some people are 'like That'. In my case, two out of Three ain't bad.
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MSROADKILL612
am not convinced geothermal energy is above ground
09:14 PM on 10/27/2011
son recently turned 18 - at party posted kid snaps on a board - so sweet how warm they were to each other back then

at prechool they had a big room & a little room - late in the day they combined - they would run to each other and give a big hug - so sweet

ah - the spicks and the specks of our lives - as per the BGs
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MSROADKILL612
am not convinced geothermal energy is above ground
08:33 PM on 10/27/2011
My ex did make one good point - if one excells at something, the other is disinterested in that field. sort of rings true but both excelled academically - just different fields - even so - both did economics

my daughter - 2yrs older - is an ace debater & tho my son has a gift for it - perhaps even better - v funny guy, he never really competed

I had 2 distant older sisters & 1 younger ~2yrs - best mates ever w/ younger one - i think younger helped - i dated her girlfriends etc. just how life panned out too - older ones moved out b4 olds moved to exciting sydney - in later life - it became clear i as the boy was resented as priviliged - imagined i can assure u, tho i did get to escape that pressure cooker to a govt boarding school 4 3 years.

mum & dad buried the hatchet when i was home on leave - others looked forward to that.
06:39 PM on 10/27/2011
I believe that some sibling rivalries are terrible in part because parents expect and accept it. Humans are competitive by nature, just as we are jealous, envious, and insecure. It is what we do with these feelings - how we act them out - that determines the quality of our relationships with others and even our feelings about ourselves.

If parents believe that siblings treating each other badly is par for the course, they will allow mistreatment. Kids learn that it's ok and it can become a life long problem. If parents have the expectation that their children treat each other with kindness and respect (as well a modeling these behaviors themselves), and work to monitor and encourage their children's kind treatment of each other, the outcome will be very different.

My kids knew that cruel treatment of one another would not be tolerated. When they crossed that line, I came down on them very hard. Kids' relationships with their siblings can have as profound effect on them as their relationships with parents. It is our job as parents to emphasize kindness and understanding.

Sheri Noga, MA
www.grateful-child.com
07:35 PM on 10/27/2011
Thanks for the article. This is a hot topic in our household right now. My kids are only 2 and 5, but the fighting has begun!

I am going to read Neaderdad's essay now.

Cheers,
Louise
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MSROADKILL612
am not convinced geothermal energy is above ground
08:52 PM on 10/27/2011
sounds like neanderdad
05:51 PM on 10/27/2011
"But more likely than my sons' rivalry being the result of some karma or curse, it probably reflects the fact that all children compete. Humans are hardwired that way."

How do you know this? I don't think all children compete. I think adults consciously or unconsciously tell their children to compete. I don't think it's hardwired but I'd like to know what information you have that says it is so.
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EthnicHeart
07:58 PM on 10/27/2011
Agreed. F&F
04:40 PM on 10/27/2011
I have a younger sister who is so destructively competitive with me that I had to cut her out of my life. She never outgrew her sibling rivalry. In fact, it grew even more sadistic as we entered adulthood. Not only would she fight me over every petty thing, she would watch me like a hawk to sabotage me. She lied and gossiped behind my back. Stole from me. On and on. I talked to her about it to try and work on a healthier relationship, but she denied everything. And every sunday she would march herself and her family up to the first pew in church to play the devout catholic. So she's out of my life now, and though it was a painful decision, it's a relief. I even have a no contact policy. No Googling, I ask for no info about her from relatives and ask them to respect my privacy as well. It's good having the toxicity out of my life. But I do envy other people who have great relationships with their sisters. I would so have loved that kind of deep, loving connection.
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EthnicHeart
05:22 PM on 10/27/2011
From my experience you made the right decision, even though you already know that. Especially if she has narcissistic or borderline personality disorder (who knows for sure? - since such people rarely get therapy but others have to suffer with their symptoms/behaviors) then you definitely made the right call. Disengagement is often the only option. My best to you.
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MSROADKILL612
am not convinced geothermal energy is above ground
08:53 PM on 10/27/2011
godness me - there is your diagnosis of the problem right there
Shesme
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06:25 PM on 10/27/2011
I have much the same kind of relationship with one of my sisters. Luckily, I have other siblings who are sane.
Perhaps my sister is not such a hard case as yours, but I could have written that description about my own (except for the stealing). After several years of refusing to engage in her or take up her bait (a well timed "so what?" usually sufficed to shut her up), I am on more cordial terms with her, but will never attempt to be close to her again.
The really sad thing is that she is very neurotic about having people like her. She wants everyone to like her, except me. And her ill treatment of me is one of the reasons other people dislike her. Neurosis is misery.
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intotheabyss
Imperialism is a form of insanity.
08:40 PM on 10/27/2011
I too have a younger sister who's behavior towards me has become so negative in her obsession to outshine big sister that I've stopped having contact with her. Let her keep her stress to herself. You would think that by the time a person reaches their 50s, they would be over that nonsense. Some people never grow up. The funny part is she's the one who's convinced she's perfect.
01:46 AM on 10/28/2011
Can relate to what you all have written in this thread. I have an older right wing Republican sister, and she is so selfish and passive-aggressively nasty, I had to just cut her toxicity out of my life by eliminating contact with her. Sad, but it's better that way.
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EthnicHeart
03:19 PM on 10/27/2011
Competition can mean different things to different people. As some posters have noted, the worst consequence is that it determines "winners and losers," which weakens and degrades both individual people and family solidarity. What is necessary with children is lots of talking and explanations about how what happens to today affects the future of the family. What does our family want to stand for? How do each of our behaviors help build that or work against it? When issues arise they should be addressed immediately. Conflict deferred tends to lead to additional problems and the whole process can feed on itself and damage relationships.

Mainstream American culture tends to be time-neutral and focused on immediacy. There isn't enough emphasis on the past or the future, and how what we do today is tied to both, whether we realize it or not. Influences from our family's and society's past wash over us. Becoming conscious of those influences, and teaching our children to see them, can be a powerful step in changing some of them for the better. Dysfunction unconsciously passed on is one of the worst burdens for children to inherit. If family history can be taught and the family's future can be discussed, especially from a young age, both of those influences can play powerful roles in helping children to see past the immediate present, and learn to accept the consequences of their actions.
03:18 PM on 10/27/2011
I was watching a documentary about the band The Kinks on PBS recently and there was an interview with Dave Davies, the younger of the two brothers in the band. He said that his brother Ray was probably only happy for about three years in his entire life. Those were the years that Dave wasn't around. Really sad, considering these guys are in their sixties and still harbor such ill will towards each other.
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Bellanova
I'm nobody. Who are you?
03:13 PM on 10/27/2011
Sibling rivalry is not inevitable. Our two sons, now grown and almost grown, have never fought with each other. I even remarked on this to my father recently, when he recalled being bossed around and fighting with his older sister way back when.

I cannot say why this happened so -- I can't think of any particular parental intervention that we'd employed, but we also never encouraged competition or compared them to each other in any way.
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MSROADKILL612
am not convinced geothermal energy is above ground
08:54 PM on 10/27/2011
well they are called the kinks
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Bellanova
I'm nobody. Who are you?
01:23 AM on 10/28/2011
Kinks? Not sure I follow.
02:44 PM on 10/27/2011
Hey now, competition can be positive or negative. As a competitive brother I can honestly say it's anything but destructive although it has that potential. And even if my brother and I are between ourselves the fiercest of rivals, and we are, when it comes to any other outside forces acting upon our lives there is no bond thicker than blood. Perhaps most importantly competition between ourselves taught us how to work together. How to admit each others strengths, how to aknowledge our own weaknesses while still always striving to get better. In short we learned how to cooperate together because of competition not despite it.

Being competitive means you don't want to and won't accept losing and not getting better as an alternative. This is a positive to the extent you can learn how to win gracefully, lose with dignity. Important life lessons.

My job as a parent is not to squash competition nor to encourage it, but to ensure it does occur accross enough diverse skillsets that my children end up learning these lessons the same way I did. From both winning and losing and in so doing learning what we each excelled at.

The threat is from enculturating the belief that losing makes you a loser or that winning makes you superior. A much more pernicious risk that may result from competing but is reflective of the values one ascribes to the results of competition not the acts of competition themselves.
02:16 PM on 10/27/2011
I don't know how I turned out so lucky but I am the mother of four children, 3 girls and 1 boy. From the oldest to the youngest there is a 4 and a half year age diffence. I never had to deal with them competing against each other. I'm not sure why but it just never happened. They are all very different in what they like to do and how they performed in school and so on.

I think the one thing I never did is compare them to each other. I always let them be themselves. It might have made me crazy at times but never tried to change them. I remember one of the kids would never get up on time for school and it drove me crazy but I never said if your brothers and sisters could get up on time so can you. I think that probably helped in them not fighting and competeing against each other. I just let them be them.
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EthnicHeart
03:00 PM on 10/27/2011
Excellent advice and excellent post. Thank you. F&F
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MSROADKILL612
am not convinced geothermal energy is above ground
07:56 PM on 10/27/2011
well done dudette - basically u chilled
01:37 PM on 10/27/2011
The siblings (brother and sister), particularly my sister, is someone I have nothing in common with. She is so money driven and everything she does centers around the fact if she does it, will there be more money in it for her. I can't believe we come from the same parents. I believe she got sucked into into the selfish greedy mindset that has always turned me off about society.
01:28 PM on 10/27/2011
I don't ever remember feeling jealous of my siblings. I can only remember one time feeling mad, when my much older sister's boyfriend brought a christmas gift for my baby sister and not for me. I don't remember feeling jealous of my sister-just mad at the idiot for forgetting about me! There was never rivalry in our house, but then again the ages between us were pretty vast. I could see this happening in traditional families where children are 2-3 years apart.
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signgrrl
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03:07 PM on 10/27/2011
yes, my sisters and i were 4 1/2, 5, and 6 years apart. no competing for each others' boyfriends, no wanting to borrow each others' clothes, we all had different interests. it worked out very well for all of us.