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In Praise Of The Good Enough College

Posted: 12/20/2011 10:38 am

If you are the parent of a high school senior, this is only secondarily the Holiday Season. It is, front and center, the College Season. The jolliness of your mood might well depend on what news your child did or didn't receive in an Early Decision letter the past week or so, and whether the dozen or so applications they will likely be filing by the turn of the year are anywhere near finished by now.

"The letter from Vanderbilt said it was the MOST COMPETITIVE application year EVER," the woman in the high end boutique crowed to her friend. Her son had just gotten in. And the fact that he'd beaten the highest odds EVER was a point of pride to his mom. Of course that EVER has been true of every school for every year in at least the past decade. It just keeps getting more competitive. And parents keep taking it more personally.

My parents never used the word "we" when talking about the process. My son is a senior this year, and I have slipped more than once.

I hereby vow to stop.

Every social and economic trend of the past two decades -- the laudable goal of diversity; the equalizing role of the internet in bringing schools to the attention of kids who might have otherwise stayed close to home; the stunning role of the best endowed schools of allowing low-income students to graduate without debt; the unexpected consequences of the Common Application which lets students apply with much less effort to far more schools; the regrettable arms race when it comes to extracurricular activities and test scores; the inexcusable game playing by many schools to attract as many applicants as they can so they can reject them and boost the all important selectivity score -- all these have joined forces to make our children believe that their life is a race and the "best" college is the finish line.

As parents, we can control none of the above. What we can control is the message we send, and because our kids are smart (just LOOK at their transcripts!) they will know whether we are telling them the truth or just patronizing them. So we have to believe it ourselves when we say that the bumper sticker on our car and the logo on their sweatshirt is not the measure of anything. Because the fact is they will be who they become because of who they are not where they go.

In the Washington Post last week, psychologist Lynn Field flipped an unspoken assumption on its head and suggested that it is BAD parenting to push your child to do their best, and aim high and take those SATs one more time because "you can do better." Our kids see through that, she says. They know what we REALLY mean:

In a black-and-white way of looking at things, we have come to believe that only the top-top students succeed by getting in to the college of their choosing. The others? They are left to muddle through and even perhaps -- gasp! -- go to a community college.

As a mental health provider who works with teenagers, I find it heartbreaking to see the effect of this myth on the psyches of high schoolers. Any doubt about the power of negative thinking is banished by sitting across from a teen whose stomach is in a knot because his or her self-worth is tied to a GPA or wrapped up in the name of a college.

But, but, but...you sputter. (Or maybe that is me sputtering. Old habits die hard.) What about their FUTURE? What if all they do is lie around playing video games because we aren't pushing them? And isn't it true that the "best" school will get them furthest in life? Aren't I helping them by making them see that?

Field again:

As educators, parents, psychologists and counselors, we need to encourage teenagers to do their best for themselves -- and often this can mean setting their sights on a good-enough school. The fact of the matter is, no matter what school you attend, you can get the education you desire.

Which I really do believe. Now I need to figure out how to stop sending the message that I don't.

How are you weathering the college application process at your house? Any advice on how to ratchet down the angst?

 
 
 
If you are the parent of a high school senior, this is only secondarily the Holiday Season. It is, front and center, the College Season. The jolliness of your mood might well depend on what news your ...
If you are the parent of a high school senior, this is only secondarily the Holiday Season. It is, front and center, the College Season. The jolliness of your mood might well depend on what news your ...
 
 
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04:33 PM on 01/13/2012
Two points: 1) As the mother of two recent college graduates, I now make it my policy that I will ask my friends about their children's college plans exactly twice: once in the fall to inquire where they are considering, and once the following summer after decisions should have been made. I was troubled by how all conversations seemed to revolve around first where my son was going to go then where was my daughter going to go. This went on for about 3 years, only stopping around Christmas time of my younger child's freshman year (that fall the conversation was, "Oh, and how doe she like xxx U?"). I am interested enough in my friends' children that I will ask, and I will ask twice, but frankly I'm interested in talking about other things.

2) The best piece of advice I ever got about the college application process was to make a weekly appointment with my child to discuss the process. During that hour (say Sunday evening from 8 to 9) I can ask about the status of tests, applications, etc. They can ask me whatever as well. But, outside of that time I was not going to talk with them about it. I wanted to give them a place where they could talk about other things going on in their lives. I STRONGLY encourage parents of college applicants to use this appointment method. It really saves wear and tear on the child's psyche as well as yours.
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05:04 AM on 12/27/2011
There has been some research that showed that the college graduates individual abilities were more important to mid career salary-level than the selectivity of their college. So, according to that research, more elite university graduates earned more because they were more elite, not necessarily because the college was more elite. However, it also found grads of more expensive colleges ultimately made more than graduates of less expensive colleges.( http://www.nber.org/digest/dec99/w7322.html ). I wonder if free assess to elite college learning materials ( such as http://chronicle.com/blognetwork/castingoutnines/2011/12/20/will-mitx-disrupt-higher-education/ ) will tend to even out some of the material advantages of the more expensive colleges, over the long haul.

I'm not sure what the article intends by "good enough".

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06:17 PM on 12/26/2011
good is misused by the religious priests, pastors and rabbi's. Good really never naturalizes until a standard from several cmpetitors consolidates and the best of two or three original softwares become one item. For example on the Amiga I had 25 different varieties of Word Processors On the Windows it is 3 Word, WordPerfect or Open Office. Which is gooder? I mean the discussion of what standards should be met. That is the actual good? in a conversation.. Enough means different plans during a lecture then writing up my problem set with a different vocabulary and a different background. For example How are prime numbers made (from other primes) What sorting methods eliminate a candidate /2 ^2, - the previous prime number. Who is gooder Messner? or Fermat? I have to come believe something about these rules for my creativity to emerge. To be cont...
04:06 AM on 12/26/2011
Second attempt to take exception:

To say, "many schools [strive] to attract as many applicants as they can so they can reject them and boost the all important selectivity score" is to perpetuate a baseless (if comforting) myth.

In reality, selective colleges (as an alumnus of one, I interviewed Ivy League applicants for nearly a quarter century) routinely receive huge numbers of applications from students--as reflected in grades, aptitude and achievement test results, extracurricular choices, accomplishments, writing samples, and even recommendation letters--objectively unable to flourish in an exceptionally rigorous academic environment. Each such school also receives roughly three times as many applications from fully-qualified students as there are places at the school. Admission offers are made with, among other things, geographic and socio-economic diversity in mind.

Highly regarded liberal arts colleges--whether independent or part of a huge university--challenge their students to think critically, analytically and independently; impose meaningful course requirements on them; and establish reputations not through rejection letters, but through the consequent accomplishments of their graduates, who go on to earn advanced degrees, innovate, teach and even win Nobel prizes.

The "good-enough" school is an exercise in mediocrity. The "best-possible" school is not.
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01:14 PM on 12/23/2011
My son is handling the process surprisingly well. He's already been rejected from Stanford's Restrictive Early Action pool, but has received acceptances from two fine out-of-state public university engineering schools (gotta love rolling admissions). He knew that getting into Stanford would be a long shot--they only accept 1700 or so freshman and get a gazillion applications. The way we positioned the reach schools to him was this: there is no harm in applying, and with acceptances being somewhat whimsical on the part of the admissions committee, the decision really has less to do with him as a person and more to do with what "types" of kids they need to fill their class. For instance, perhaps the school realizes their first chair oboe player will graduate in the Spring and they need a new one.

The bottom line is, we wanted him to apply to a full range of schools because you just don't know what will catch the admissions officer's eye. There isn't a single school on his list he wouldn't enjoy attending, many of which he's already visited--his list, btw, not ours.
08:32 AM on 12/23/2011
When looking at the college fit, the personality of the school and the student have to align. A rule of thumb is to statistically do about 5-6 applications that are spread between 1) Stretch School, 2) Ideal School, 3) Good School since the schools are playing 'student mix' and 'who will really come' game of chance.

Additional thoughts on the topic of K-12 and HigherEd at:

http://stevemahoney1.blogspot.com/
11:06 AM on 12/22/2011
We are living the life you describe these days.

My son's a high school senior. On Dec. 13, he got a deferment letter from an elite school and was crushed (even though he's still in the running). On Dec. 14 he got his acceptance to a big state university where many of his friends are planning to attend, and he was thrilled. (It was an amazing turnaround -- shows the true resiliency of young people.)

He's still applying to a few more "reach" schools, but seems very much okay with staying in-state.

If I had to give any advice or perspective to parents, it's this: Your son or daughter will get out of college what is put in. You can go to Ivy school and come out with little more than debt and an impressive credential on your resume. You can go to a state school and come out with an amazing education, internships and more.

Make a list of the positive aspects of each school your child is considering. If they don't get into one school, they can at least see the upside of a school they do get into.
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01:29 PM on 12/23/2011
I agree with this. I think part of the problem is that many kids don't know what they want to study and so instead of researching which schools have the best programs for that intended major, they get caught up in the brand recognition.

I also think it's really important to visit schools if you can afford it. I took my son on a tour of colleges last spring break and it was as much about eliminating possibilities as it was confirming choices. Really helps if your kid can see themselves on a particular campus. My son really had an aversion to schools located in big cities--too much hustle and bustle for him--and really liked schools with more traditional campuses. Sounds silly, but it really helped him narrow the potential pool of applications he planned to submit.
07:34 PM on 12/26/2011
What you stated in your first paragraph is very evident when hearing prospective college students discussing schools. I don't believe I've ever heard a student mention Harvey Mudd, Colgate, Franklin W. Olin, Cooper Union, William and Mary, or Rose-Hulman even though they are some of the best schools in the country. Everyone mentions Harvard, Yale, and Princeton no matter what their intended major is going to be. I place some of the blame for this on high school counselors. Those counselors should be getting to know what their students strengths and weakness are and what interests them most. Once that determination is made, a collective effort between the counselor, student, and parents should be made to match the student with the correct college/university.
08:35 AM on 12/22/2011
Another wry post about how we as a society have decided that the only way to be happy is to be a "celebrity" in some way. There is nothing wrong with getting into a good-enough college, going to a trade school, being a good- enough mom, or just playing sports for fun, God forbid. The CDC indicates that depression is one of the top debilitating diseases in our country today, and is one of the leading causes of disability. Gee, wonder if there is a connection between hyper-competitiveness and hyper- materialism and depression.....
10:29 PM on 12/21/2011
I drive my kids to do their best, but I am not playing the "best college" game. I have bought (am buying) 3 years of tuition each via a GET program for my two kids. Then I am heading them to community college via Running Start so that they can get one or 2 years of college credit completed by the time they graduate from high school. Then it is off to the state university (hopefully withing commuting distance, there are two), probably for an engineering degree. If they pull it off right, they will have some tuition money available to help cover some of their MS courses.

If they want to go to a "name" school, they can do so as a graduate student.
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06:10 PM on 12/21/2011
I do indeed believe it is still important to encourage our children to do their best, but also to prepare themselves for the realities of not being accepted at some schools, hopefully being accepted at others, and making decisions based on real-world factors like scholarships and loans.

Having been through this process as recently as last year (and the decisions rolling in during March and April), it becomes a "we" when parents are implicitly expected to foot the bill for all those applications, for college visits, and then filling out FAFSA, CSS and other financial documents which keep us knee-deep in forms during January and February.

None of it is simple any longer. We all need to think long and hard about what makes sense and what is reasonable, and allow our sons and daughters to do so as well.
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11:17 AM on 12/24/2011
I think, too, we have to do a better job of defining what "best" means and explaining the law of diminishing returns. I've heard so many crazy stories of kids with Ivy League worthy credentials not getting in to their first choice schools simply because of the sheer volume of equally worthy applications received. On a very basic level, once a student has reached a certain threshold that gets them into the consideration set, it then becomes somewhat of a lottery--# of places for men vs. women, #places for athletes, #places for the truly gifted, e.g. the Intel Science competition winner, etc.

So, the truth is, if the valedictorian--or someone very nearly like it--doesn't get into those top schools, you have to wonder if staying up until 2 a.m. every night to complete your AP course homework, and running yourself ragged with extra-curriculars is a smart thing to do. That where the diminishing returns comes in. Wouldn't it be "best" to take a challenging, but not crushing, load and go to a very respectable program regardless of its name recognition?
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03:05 PM on 12/21/2011
I transferred out of my good-enough college, where I fit in, for an elite, competitive college. My only reason for doing this was to keep up with the Ivy League Joneses. I graduated Cum Laude and was miserable. For many reasons, leaving the good-enough college has been one of my biggest regrets. The lesson I'm striving to impart to my kids? Bloom where you're planted. A fancy education won't necessarily make you happy and chasing after one, especially if it's not meant to be, most definitely won't. I just care that my kids are well-adjusted, and find meaningful relationships and meaningful, self-supporting work. A sought-after college is no greater guarantee of that than is a good-enough one.
02:59 PM on 12/21/2011
I was one of those seniors sweating it out just a few years ago. I worked my butt off and got into the college I wanted but prior to leaving, I took a few classes at my local community college. (I graduated early) After that, I hated the bigger school and ended up returning to the community college to finish my general education requirements. I now attend a small, private college (there are about 500 students total. Average student to teacher ratio is 14:1) and I love it so much more than the larger and better "known" school. I also feel I'm getting a better education. I know my professors and have many opportunities that the larger school would never provide.

My advice to all seniors, and their parents, going through this process is to think about more than just how it looks on paper. Has everyone heard of my college? No, but when I present them with my resume and faculty recommendations, they are very impressed. There are so many aspects to consider when choosing a school. Make sure it really does fit before you spend the money!!
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02:45 PM on 12/21/2011
I feel we are remiss in designating schools by levels- top schools, middle top, middle (or however the designations are) BECAUSE- the only thing that TRULY makes a difference is TOP TIER OR NOT. Therefore, honestly, I think there should only be those 2 designations in our minds.

I guess what I'm saying is that unless your kid gets into the Harvard etc. triad, it doesn't really matter. The rest don't offer that much of a perk in the working world.

So if you got a Harvard kid on your hands, then by all means, go for it. But if not, then back the heck off, cause it's really not gonna make that much of a difference in the long run.
12:26 PM on 12/21/2011
I think that once you are in the job market, no one really cares where you went or what your GPA was. We are trying to instill this in our daugher, who is a junior at a state school and is less than thrilled with her choice. However, she has received some amazing internships, which have given her hands on experience in her field, and was recently chosen over around 100 other applicants, including Ivy leaguers for an internship with NBC Sports. We need to stop putting so much emphasis on the "best college" and stop putting so much pressure on our children!
10:54 AM on 12/22/2011
Bravo. Your daughter's internships will teach her more and do more for her career early on than anything she learns in the classroom and what college she puts down at the bottom of her resume.

Encourage her to stay in touch with all her internship contacts and continue to do that sort of thing while she's in school, during the summer, etc.

I can't tell you how many people I've known (my wife included) who used their internships, not their alma maters, as springboards for career success.
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11:03 AM on 12/21/2011
Please help me fight for all of those student attending "good enough" colleges. I am fighting against the recent cuts to Pell. These cuts hurt poor, non-traditional, transfer, and minority students.

Will you sign my petition? Click here to add your name:

http://signon.org/sign/restore-pell-grants?source=c.fwd&r_by=78344

Thanks!