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When Mom and Dad Say Yes, But Teacher Says No

Posted: 03/23/2012 2:43 pm

The story of 12-year-old Brianna Moore being suspended last week for something her parents said she could do hit a little close to home for me. I have gotten my child in trouble more than once for my own behavior.

First, Brianna's story. When the sixth grader at the Shue-Medill middle school in Newark, Del., worked very hard and made the honor roll -- her first time on that list -- her parents Kevin and Wendy Moore, helped her dye her hair pink as a reward and celebration. The next morning she was "turned away at school" USA Today reports, because her vibrant hair violated school policies. The rule at her school is that brightly colored hair is not allowed -- though other schools in the same district do not have that restriction.

Her parents fought back, the ACLU took the case, and a few days later Brianna was allowed back in class, along with her head of pink hair. All this left me remembering the time I texted one son during math class needing a timely answer to an urgent question. He texted me back and was told to relinquish his phone. Or the time I let him bring Advil to class, knowing that minutes counted when he got the first symptoms of a migraine. But school rules said he had to go to the nurse for medications. His Advil were taken from him, too.

Every year at Back to School Night, as I travel from room to room hearing half a dozen or more teachers recite their different sets of rules for their particular realms, I remember anew how capricious and inconsistent the world can look from those chairs with attached arm-desks. The Spanish teacher permits assignments to be made up; the English teacher doesn't. The history teacher puts the homework online every night, the Latin teacher puts it on the blackboard. The chemistry teacher drops the lowest grade and gives partial credit and doesn't allow gum chewing, but will allow you to snack in class because it's important to regulate your blood sugar. The economics teacher does exactly the opposite, whatever that is. And the math teacher apparently takes away cell phones when you answer a text from your mom, no matter how important it might be.

And sometimes it can be pretty darn important. Kevin Francois learned that six years ago, back when he as a junior in a Columbus, Ga. high school. He told the local tv station that his cell phone rang at 12:30 one afternoon, and seeing it was his mother, he says he stepped outside the building to get better reception. She was calling from Iraq, where she was stationed as a Sgt.1st Class with the 203rd Forward Support Battalion, 3rd Brigade, 3rd Infantry Division.

What happened next isn't clear. Kevin, whose father died when he was five, and who was living with a family friend during this, his first separation from his mother, says he told the teacher "This is my mom in Iraq. I'm not about to hang up on my mom." The teacher, who insists the conversation happend in a hallway, not outdoors, says that when she told Kevin to hang up he cursed and became belligerent but never explained the specifics of the call.

As with Brianna, public opinion rallied around Kevin. His suspension was reduced, to three days from the original ten, but not before he surrendered his phone to main office, where it was turned off. Which meant he missed a second call from his mother at 12:37, KMBC-TV reported, "scolding her son about hanging up and telling him to answer the phone when she calls."

Have you told your child they can do something only to have the school tell them they can't? Or perhaps it was the other way around?

 
 
 
The story of 12-year-old Brianna Moore being suspended last week for something her parents said she could do hit a little close to home for me. I have gotten my child in trouble more than once for my ...
The story of 12-year-old Brianna Moore being suspended last week for something her parents said she could do hit a little close to home for me. I have gotten my child in trouble more than once for my ...
 
 
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AZLibDem
If you're speeding, you're an "illegal"
03:52 PM on 04/11/2012
"The rule at her school is that brightly colored hair is not allowed"

So, instead of looking at the school policy:

"Hair color is to be a natural color, brown, blond, black, natural red/auburn"

http://www.shue-medill.com/for-parents/school-uniforms/

They chose to do it anyway, and sue. So, every kid at school says, "her parents don;t make her follow the rules, so why do I have to?"

And people wonder why discipline is a problem.
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allyson notally
More right than left but more left than right.
03:35 PM on 04/02/2012
I side with the teachers in the paragraph about differences between classes. The student needs to learn how to adapt to different situations going from one subject to the next. Understanding how the school works and having respect for a teacher's individual teaching style helps the teacher out immensely and also teaches your child personal responsibility. My mother tried to over-advocate for me when it was unnecessary, and I found it very embarrassing. I had to eventually tell my mom to back off and let me make mistakes and learn from them.

Like previous posters, I also wonder what was so pressing that you needed a text back right away.
08:02 AM on 03/27/2012
One of the functions of schools, I think, is to educate students in things the parents missed. In this case, that's manners. We don't allow students to text each other while they're supposed to be learning the subject, for instance. Notice, however, that many will text others during dinner with friends at restaurants---so I'm not saying that our example carries over into everyday life as it should. In the best of all worlds the parents wouldn't tolerate it, either. If you have to report for jury duty you may notice a sign outside the court room admonishing you to turn your phone off. I can just imagine young adults thinking it was okay to ignore the judge because they had an "urgent" text to answer.
05:31 AM on 03/27/2012
The minute the school interferes with what I need as a parent is the minute she no longer attends. We home schooled for 7 of her 8 years in school. She got straight A's at home and is getting straight A's in Public school, she can get A's at home again, no problem.
07:36 AM on 03/29/2012
I suppose if another parent needed their child and called/interrupted while your kid was in need of something, you'd be okay with it.
02:07 AM on 03/27/2012
What exactly would you have done before the advent of mobile phones? Let me guess, call the office. Try doing it now - having a mobile is not a right and it certainly shouldn't be turned on whilst in class.
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Claude Hosch
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05:45 PM on 03/26/2012
There are exceptions to a few rules, like the call from Iraq: the school should have known this boy's circumstance to monitor grades, if for no other reason. A parent's lack of forethought should not void rule in a class room, and good grades should be a child's duty: no cause for a gala. Parents should lend their support to schools for the education of their kids.

How much more would kids learn if class was never interrupted during a term?
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highhymes
03:42 PM on 03/26/2012
Unfortunately we now live in the world of least common denominator. With the exception of home schooling one's child one must come to terms with this phenomena and deal with it accordingly (i.e. abide by the written rules), however, that does not abdicate the school from culpability for their ignorance either, as in the case where the princepal had the 3rd grade girl arrested for bringing a steak knife to school to eat her lunch, arrested...not counseled she should not do that again with her parents, saying "his hands were tied" by their no tolerance rule. The instances above seem fairly benign and would say get over it. However, we do need to be very careful of continual tyranny by the minority.
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geauxangel
01:41 AM on 04/13/2012
I agree....schools are going overboard....if my daughter gets caught with advil, tylenol etc, the student can be arrested for drug possession and forced into an alternative school no questions asked, honor student or not....jeez people!
12:56 PM on 03/26/2012
Kids have to follow other people's rule besides your own. That shouldn't be a huge shocker. And if it's terribly important for you to speak with your child, call the office phone. Honestly, this article makes you sound like not a very smart woman who can put things in perspective.
12:13 PM on 03/26/2012
"Which meant he missed a second call from his mother at 12:37, KMBC-TV reported, "scolding her son about hanging up and telling him to answer the phone when she calls.""

That's why parents can call the school and ask to speak to their children. Apparently this mom doesn't understand the school rules about cell phones either!
12:11 PM on 03/26/2012
"And the math teacher apparently takes away cell phones when you answer a text from your mom, no matter how important it might be."

Do you honestly expect anything different? Cell phones haven't been allowed in the classroom for years. This isn't some new oppressive policy to keep you from having constant and immediate access to your child...it's an old rule.
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jbarelli
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11:48 AM on 03/26/2012
So many issues in one little article. It almost seems that the writer is angry with the school system about something, and is using this shotgun approach to make sure that every parent will find some topic they agree with.

Hair. Were the rules published before the girl showed up with pink hair? Did the school require (as many do) that the parents sign a copy of those rules at the beginning of the year? If yes, then the girl needs to wash her hair and get over it. If no, then the school needs to get its act together.

Phones. Having been deployed overseas, I understand the mom's taking any opportunity to talk with her son. But, a call to the school office would have solved this. A note on file with that office might have solved this.

Answering a "text from your mom, no matter how important". Have we forgotten that schools have offices that parents can call in emergencies? Or, was that "important question" something that mom suspected that the school would consider so trivial that it wasn't worth interrupting 30 kids trying to learn to spell.

As for differing classroom standards from different teachers. Welcome to real life. Over time, we'll all have different supervisors with differing standards. As long as the standards are known in advance and enforced fairly within the class, get over it.
01:27 PM on 03/26/2012
Perfect.
06:02 PM on 03/28/2012
Thank you!
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HermaO
Conservatism is intellectual laziness.
10:32 AM on 03/26/2012
You texted your kid while he was in class and expected an answer? Don't you have any respect for the teacher, the other students, or, what should matter most to you, your child's studies? Does it mean you expect him to look at his phone every time he receives a text, because it could be his mother writing, and it could be "urgent"?
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AZLibDem
If you're speeding, you're an "illegal"
02:23 PM on 04/11/2012
"Don't you have any respect for the teacher"

Respect for teachers is long gone; everybody thinks they know better.
02:45 AM on 03/26/2012
This article reeks of self importance and entitlement. You aren't above the rules, many of which are in place for a reason. When I was in 8th grade, a boy tried to commit suicide with Tylenol in the bathroom that his mother had sent with him to school because his leg hurt. Still think children need to carry medication with them to school? If you expect your children to follow rules, it is a good idea to follow them yourself. Displaying to them that rules are stupid and are to be fought against probably isn't in the best interest of the parent.

Yes, there are occasions when injustices are present that need to be stood against. Pink hair is not one of those, nor is your extremely important text. If it is that vital you contact your son, do so through the proper channels (i.e, call the office. It has worked for decades). I can't believe you are even trying to argue that allow students to answer texts in the middle of class is appropriate.

The only scenario mentioned that I would side with the parent/child on is the mother calling from Iraq, and in that case the school should have been made aware of the situation before the call was ever received so the teachers would know to allow the cell phone to be on and calls taken.
01:57 AM on 03/26/2012
Teachers are some of the hardest working people on the planet. They have to try to educate students with many different levels of ability, try to get by on the meager budget they are given for supplies and materials (usually spending hundreds of their $$), motivate students to learn....many times, without the support of the child's own parents or guardians. Think about how many times a day that teacher had to deal with kids texting, checking their email, etc...because parents not only get their children these distracting devices, but they let them take them to school. I understand parents wanting children to have a means to communicate with them, it's the world we live in. Why does it have to be a smart phone though? If my mom had a question that needed an "urgent" answer....she'd just have to wait, and if it was that important....she'd call the school and I'd have to go to the principal's office to call her. What happened to Kevin is unfortunate, but could have been avoided if he and his family would have made his teacher aware of the situation. And as far as teacher having different methods....good! No two supervisors in the workforce manage in exactly the same way. Unfortunately,this generation seems to be getting more and more entitled...thanks to parents that make excuses for every possible obstacle their child may encounter.
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AZLibDem
If you're speeding, you're an "illegal"
02:24 PM on 04/11/2012
Very well said
07:15 PM on 03/25/2012
These stories are outrageous, especially the son receiving a call from his mother in Iraq! For the record, I oppose the war and STILL would have made an exception to allow the call as a justified exception to ANY RULE! Get real people!!

I'm all for supporting teachers and school administration in their quest for maintaining any orderly environment in which children learn/thrive, but my child (who is by all teacher accounts a great kid/serious student) is in elementary school and we are already seeing what happens when school staff become so fixated on rules (for the sake of fixating on rules), they completely lose their sense of reality and why they are there in the first place. If this school was an office it would be like the "Dilberts" Cartoon. Fortunately, we have very flexible and dedicated teachers who understand that we are there to support them in the mission to educate our child, but some of the ridiculously rigid rules set by the principal are simply to appease the Union (the skittish school administration seems to fear union grievances) and/or out of an obsesive need to micro-manage.

Sad, but I think some teachers/administrators get a sick thrill of reprimanding both kids and parents, simply to show us who is in charge (just like in a "Dilberts" world). They've already lost the point of why they are there....
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08:44 PM on 03/25/2012
It's not a "sick thrill". It's trying to maintain order in chaos. The reason teachers are there is to teach and the reason students are there is to learn, neither of which can happen in chaos. Anything that is in a union contract was agreed to by the union and and administration and, yes, once the contract is written and signed then both parties have to abide by the contract. It's not to make your life miserable, it's to honor an agreement. If you don't like it, make your voice heard at a school board meeting.

Your child may be "great/serious", but many students are not. You think the school is like a Dilbert cartoon, and many teachers see students' families like "The Simpsons" or "The Middle". No one is perfect, yet the public expects school staff to be.

Exceptions should be made for rules (such as the boy and his mother in Iraq), but somehow messages did get delivered before cell phones existed. Yet now everything is urgent (even when it really isn't) and it disrupts teaching and learning which is, after all, why schools exist in the first place.
12:09 PM on 03/26/2012
You may not be like this (so please don't be defensive) but there are administrators/teachers who are exactly like this. I'm not denying your experience, what you see every day, but you should be respectful of others' experiences. Yes, it's sad but I can see that there are administrators/teachers who micromanage and whose goals/objectives are twisted. As I said, the majority of teachers we have are not like this.

No one is expecting perfection, but policies should be reasonable. Some of the policies we see make no sense and are sometimes bad for children. Some are so embarrasingly vague, poorly thought through/communicated, you can drive a truck through them! I have made my voice heard by escalating issues via the designated process. It was through this process I first realized how weak and misdirected our administration's leadership is.

I know a great deal about union contracts. I've negotiated/enforced several for both management and unions (and investigated bad faith bargaining charges); however, I have the objectivity and experience to see clearly when a weak administrator/employer is scared about the threat of a potential (frivolous) grievance and is trying to shape policy to avoid this, even if this makes no sense whatsoever.

I'm sorry there are parents that probably shouldn't be parents, but just like in the "non-school" world, there are individuals who simply don't have the temperment, common sense, dedication, talent, intelligence, or leadership to be in the field of education.
12:10 AM on 03/27/2012
Honestly, shouldn't the mother know what time it is in the US and when her kid is in school?
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Kelzie01
08:22 AM on 03/27/2012
Right? My husband's in Afghanistan. He calls at appropriate time. Furthermore, it's not quite the isolated, sporadic phone call that people think. He could call every day if he wants. There are plenty of people in his team (embedded by the way, not even on a base) that call their kids every night before bed. This isn't Vietnam.