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Should You Push Your Child If It Will Make Them A Champion?

Posted: 11/ 7/2011 2:30 pm

Meet Andrea Rosen. She offers herself to you as the antidote to the Tiger Mom. And she is particularly reassuring to hear from (except for those of you who will think she is bragging) at this time of year, when high school seniors list their life's achievements on applications and send them off for a verdict.

Those lists can feel like a measure of your parenting. As Rosen asks in an essay on the website of the United States Chess Federation (I TOLD you some of you would think she's bragging):

Like many other parents, I disagreed [with Amy Chua's book on parenting, Battle Hymn of the Tiger Mother] but I also found myself harboring doubts. Have I been too indulgent?  Did I give my children too much leeway in deciding where to devote their own time? Will failing to insist that they achieve perfection at everything they do lead them to fail to persevere at crucial moments and give up when the going gets tough?

Then she answers her own question:

I think my son Eric's clear first-place win at this year's National High School Championship, held April 28-May 1, 2011 in Nashville, Tennessee, offers some vindication to me and all other parents who believe that children, when encouraged to connect with passions of their own choosing, are inclined to work hard and can achieve success at the highest levels through their own intrinsic motivation. As an added bonus, whether or not they win a national championship, chances are their therapy bills as adults will be less.

She goes on to describe her own brand of parenting -- she calls it the Purr of the Pussycat Mama -- which essentially includes following your child instead of leading them:

Eric fell in love with chess at the age of seven, and as a family we've devoted more time and money to allow him to pursue it than many would view as sane. Still, my husband Brad and I never remind him of that or insist it translate into some tangible result. While we encouraged both our children to work hard at school and get good grades, straight A's were never a goal--a passion for learning was. As for chess, there were times Eric's teachers felt that he wasn't achieving his potential and that he should be studying longer and harder. But growing up he was first an avid soccer player, and later an avid tennis player. It was clear he needed that balance in his life, and more importantly, that in the end, winning was not all that mattered. To me, competing in anything is less about the results and more about what you learn on route. Nine years after he began to play, he's learned plenty, and how to end a game with checkmate might be the least of it. He's empathetic, he learns from his mistakes, he helps others learn from theirs, he loses with grace, and he handles himself like a pro in high-pressure, high- stakes situations.

Well and good. For a child who knows exactly what he wants and finds his passion early. But what if you have a child who has talent but no fire. Yet. And what if you were the kind of child who needed that extra push, and are grateful to your parents for giving it to you? (Or maybe you needed it, and are ticked that they DIDN'T give it to you.)

How much of "the list" is completely up to a child? And how involved must the grownups be in shaping, defining and pushing?

 
 
 
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01:41 AM on 11/16/2011
I agree with this way of parenting. My husband and I have always let our kids follow their passions. My oldest, who is now 20 and a senior in college, has a passion for writing and art. When she was younger, she'd write at every opportunity--at family picnics, during lunch, even under her desk while she was supposed to be listening to her teachers lecture. During the summer she'd feverishly write for 10-12 hours EVERY day. She still managed to have a happy social life, participate in extracurricular activities, and to get excellent grades. She wrote several books during high school, and also created multiple artworks. My daughter's endless hours of writing served to hone her skills so that she is now sought after by her professors to co-write papers (and even a book) with them. If we'd been the ones pushing her to constantly work, she might have rebelled and never found what she loved to do. My son is this way with math and computer science, devouring and absorbing these things to the same extent my daughter did with words. We couldn't tear him away from these subjects if we tried. I can assure you we never pushed our children to be math and writing prodigies. Our goal for each of them has been that they would find what motivates them and gives them satisfaction in the world.
09:01 AM on 11/11/2011
Interesting story.

This sounds like a situation where the parents' style meshed well with the kid's. Outcome: a champion.

Not all kids are like this though. I have one child who is curious, takes in everything, and focuses easily. He will find his passions and put forth effort with only a little support from me. I have another, borderline ASD, who can't see the potential for fun/interest in anything at first glance. He is very short sighted and resistant to change. Does he have the ability to be a champion? Absolutely. He's brilliant (with an IQ in the 99th percentile) but he absolutely needs a lot of structure so in order to get into may things in the first place. Once over the initial hump, he will run with it if its up his alley, but I've learned to ignore his protestations to some extent, because given the choice, the answer to "Do you want to ____" is ALWAYS, initially, "NO". Over time, he's become much less resistant to trying new things, but I think this will always be a part of who he is. A big part of my job as a parent is to help him to create an internal dialogue that ends in "Sure, why not?"

So my younger child get Pussycat Mom, my eldest gets the Tiger a bit more frequently. It works.
10:03 AM on 11/10/2011
Spending money on your kids' passions is fine but, what if you can't afford it? If the kid loved chess, he would find a way to play it with out the parents' spending all that money? Maybe not. But, may be he could have, given a chance to look around his local community and see what there was available. Also, he could have "just played". Plenty of folks love chess without all the trophies, etc.
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01:46 PM on 11/09/2011
"as a family we've devoted more time and money to allow him to pursue it than many would view as sane"

I'm sorry, but this goes AGAINST her premise that she is NOT a tiger mom: "as a family we've devoted more time and money to allow him to pursue it than many would view as sane." She may not beat piano practice out of her kid, but on the grand spectrum, she's MUCH more of a tiger mom (pushy, funneling her kid to perfect their hobby) than she is to the other side.
12:43 AM on 11/13/2011
From where I sit , I have to disagree with you. The mother here is not a Tiger Mom. I should know know-- I'm the dad. While we have been very supportive of Eric in his chess endeavors over the years (as well as his soccer, tennis, and digital photograph endeavors), from early on we have let him call the shots insofar as what tournaments to play (and divisions therein), the frequency of tournament play, lessons etc...-- I don't think letting the cubs be calling the shots is part of the Tigerparents' DNA. I have often been asked by other chess parents, what OUR secret has been. My response is "keep it fun". Although I really don't view this as much of a secret, I think it has played a key role in my son's success and ongoing passion for the game.

Additional note: Starting next week Eric will be representing the US at the World Youth Chess Championships being held in Caldas Novas, Goias, Brazil in the U18 Division. He'll come into the competition as the #28 seed in a field of 98 (see http://chess-results.com/tnr58159.aspx?art=0&lan=10&turdet=YES&flag=30, and scroll down.) If my wife was truly a Tiger Mom, he would be coming into the tourney at least as one of the top 5 seeds ---- tongue in cheek on that last observation.
11:26 AM on 11/08/2011
How many parents know whether or not a child truly has the potential to "be a champion"? I suspect the majority of these "champion potential" kids really aren't, and the whole escapade is primarily an ego trip for the parent.

Here's how I draw the line between encouragement and pushing -- (1) who's the main instigator and sustainer of the activity, and (2) what kind of motivation does the parent apply?

If the activity is something the child enjoys and wants to continue, and the parent is on board with keeping things enjoyable -- it's encouragement.

If the child is losing or has lost interest and enjoyment, and the parent has to continually apply consequences (positive or negative, but especially negative) -- it's pushing.

That being said, I was raised by one of those "tiger moms" whose constant pushing created an essentially joyless childhood. It's hard to have fun when your never good enough.
11:01 AM on 11/08/2011
My daughter was a state champion twirler and she wanted to do it herself. I never had to push. She might need help with remembering her routines or getting ready at competition, but I never had to threaten her or demand she do any of it. she even tried pageants once. After she won, and it was her first competition, on the way home, she daid, " I never want to do that again. I have better things to do than be pretty all day!" So we never did it again. The trick is to be supportive, not demanding. If they don't wat to do it, forget it. And some want to do things and have no talent for it. but if they still want to press on, let them. It won't hurt. Just don't let your investment in the activity or your desire to have a child do something you always wanted to do and couldn't, be your driving force.
11:00 AM on 11/08/2011
Kids are fantastic and telling you how they need to be handled when it comes to exploring their interests. Regardless if it through: sports, education, music, science, friends, or in love. The honesty of their words is where the dirt meets the road between adults and kids. There are fine lines for both aspects of what is "Pushy" and "Encouraging" and coaching kids in Soccer, Baseball, Golf, and Boxing. I have seen and heard a wide array of positive and negative interaction that can enhance and destroy a child interest. The biggest impact comes from parents and the history they had with their own mother and father growing up. Where it goes wrong in either case is in how the message is delivered to their kids. Where it is the line drawn when speaking of the difference of the two? It is hard to say but when it goes wrong, kids and adults alike clearly know it. Being a Champion is more than winning and that is because this word is very broad in its meaning. The right message delivered to a child the right way will deliver a humble, gracious, honest, respectful, and smart adult who will always be worthy of the title "Champion". Now how did they get their? Was it Push or Encourage?
10:02 AM on 11/08/2011
I've pushed my son in the past to participate in things he was unsure about; chess was one of them. It turns out he's pretty good and has been enjoying it for the past few years. Sometimes we need to give them a little shove and they thrive. But yes, forcing it on them when they no longer are interested does not always turn out well. What's the point of a shelf full of trophies if a kid is miserable?
08:37 AM on 11/08/2011
We dealt with this issue exactly a year ago. Our son was 6 and on top of his already very full schedule we insisted that he include a traditional team sport. We and the coach saw potential in him and yet our son was crying to us, "It's too much! I never get a day off!" Our son would enjoy the practices once he got there but if the games ever rained out, he would cheer, "YES!" Fast forward to spring and one day he tells us he wants to do martial arts instead. Fine, we thought, and we signed him up. It was only then that we understood what real passion was. Our son practices in the shower, lying in bed, in the middle of a supermarket aisle. To prepare for a tournament he was at the dojo 7 days a week and it was like he was in heaven. We actually have to fight with him to *stop* and take a break once in a while. As a result he won 2 gold medals and a first place trophy in his first year of competitions. Aside from accompanying him to the events and practices, it was effortless on our part in terms of "pushing"; our son pushed himself. Now that we know what real passion looks like, I doubt we'd ever go back to those old days of forcing him to keep going at something he doesn't love.
05:15 AM on 11/08/2011
There should be a balance, I think somewhere in the middle of Tiger Mom and Pussycat Mom. Children ,especially teens, tend to get lazy and do need a little encouragement/push to continue at times.
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03:24 AM on 11/08/2011
There were a lot of things I showed promise in as a kid, but there was simply no extra money to pursue them. My mum scraped for the money to buy dance lessons but not the private lessons and dance camps that I would have loved.

But I was allowed to read all the books I wanted and in the long run that had the bigger impact on me.
yappnmutt
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02:25 AM on 11/08/2011
indulge your children's interests. let them know/show them how to get the most out it. let them go.
10:23 AM on 11/08/2011
Way to go! Well said!
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Hugo Stiglitz1
01:07 AM on 11/08/2011
champion of what?
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TINA ANDRES
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11:30 PM on 11/07/2011
I have tried to give my children exposure to as many different things as possible from an early age. My son is now seven and has yet to narrow things down although he is particularly skilled at and loves soccer. Seven is too young to limit his choices just because he is good at one thing. He still enjoys his weekly gymnastics lesson, tennis lesson, golf lesson and piano and art lessons. He still has plenty of time to be a kid, in fact, I would argue that he is enjoying being a kid while doing those things. When he gets a bit older, he can narrow things down on his own but for now, he is sincerely enjoying all of his activities. When we tell kids that they are "talented" or "gifted" at something, we rob them of the sense of accomplishment that comes with practice and we also rob them of the opportunity to try something that they may not be "gifted" at but enjoy nonetheless.
10:55 PM on 11/07/2011
Encouragement should not be confused with "push." As both a mom and a teacher, I've seen both. At age ten, my own daughter was torn between (in her mind) shooting for the Olympics in figure skating or equestrian sports. Needless to say, she didn't achieve either, but decided, when older, to put her best efforts into riding. Had we been wealthier, she might have gone further there than she did, but I was amazed at how much comparable expense goes into serious skating. The point is, we let her try her interests out. The dedication and drive was up to her. Talent and "fire" takes precedence over mere talent. This is up to the child.