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Forbidding Your Daughter To Visit A Friend When Only The Dad Is Home

Posted: 01/30/2012 11:06 am

Dadophobia.

That is what one poster on the NYCDads Facebook page dubbed the fear of leaving children alone with, gasp, a man.

It all started with a question and answer feature in the advice section of Parenting.com:

You've accepted a sleepover invite for your daughter, not realizing that only her pal's divorced dad will be home. You're not OK with it. What to do? 

The Solution: "Call and say 'I'm sorry, and this is about me and not you, but I just don't feel comfortable with a man supervising an overnighter,' " says Paone (a Ph.D., a play therapist, mother of three, and founder of Counseling Center at Heritage, in Montgomeryville, PA). Offer to host the girls at your place instead, if you can, or ask to turn the sleepover into a "late-over," where your daughter stays only till bedtime. In the future, always ask who'll be on duty before you say yes to a sleepover.

This did not surprise Matt Schneider of the NYC Dads Group, because he feels what he describes as "bias against fathers" all the time. But not surprised is not the same as not upset, so he rewrote the Q&A on the group's website to make his point:

You've accepted a sleepover invite for your son, not realizing that the family is Jewish. You're not OK with it. What to do? 

The Solution: "Call and say 'I'm sorry, and this is about me and not you, but I just don't feel comfortable with a Jew supervising an overnighter,' " says Morris, a PhD., play therapist, mother of three, and founder of Counseling Center at Liberty, in Columbiaville, NH. Offer to host the girls at your place instead, if you can, or ask to turn the sleepover into a "late-over," where your daughter stays only till bedtime. In the future, always ask who'll be on duty before you say yes to a sleepover.

It's not that Schneider doesn't understand your concerns. "Many people are justifying these feelings because we are trying to do what's best for our children. In a world surrounded with stories of rapists and pedophiles, could we ever live with ourselves if something happened when we let our child stay over at a man's house?" he writes. But statistically the likelihood of a child being in danger from a single man are no greater than that child being in danger from, well, anyone else, and ignoring that logic has dangers of its own, he continues:

Can't we all think back to a time (not that long ago) when "experts" would have advised parents not to allow their children to stay overnight at the home of a Jewish family, or a black family,  because we weren't "comfortable?" Do we still think it's possible for "experts" to advise parents not to allow their children to stay overnight at the home of a gay or lesbian family?

When do we cross the line of "this is about me, not you" thinking being used to justify our actions to "this is about me" thinking as an opportunity to look inwards to address our own biases. None of us can justify to ourselves that it would okay to not let our children have a sleepover at someone's house because they were poor, or handicapped, or a different race or a different religion?

So how would he answer the question? With something like this:

Do you know men that are excellent fathers that would provide a safe, caring, and fun environment for you child," says Schneider, not a PhD, not a play therapist, not a founder of a counseling center, but a father of two. "Perhaps you should take some time to get to know the father before you decide you are uncomfortable.

And you? How would YOU answer the question?

 
 
 
 
 
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01:29 AM on 02/04/2012
I feel bad for the kids whose parents would "never" let their kid spend the night at friend's house. They are only focusing on the potential bad (kids ganging up, child not feeling accepted, etc) the ugly (child molestation - no matter how infinitesimally small - the kid is more likely to get injured driving TO the sleepover than anything actually happening to the sleepover) than the good (making friendships stronger, making good memories, etc). I had lots of sleepovers with my girlfriends and we never thought twice about it. 24hour cable news have made parents unnecessarily paranoid and only willing to look at the bad and never the good of anything, especially if it means that their precious darlings are out of their sight for more than 30 seconds.
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MissTake1989
Equal means equal, hypocrites.
06:19 AM on 02/03/2012
If someone was unwilling to let their kids go along with their friends on a trip because they didn't want their child to ride in a car driven by a woman....what would the reaction be?
05:44 AM on 02/03/2012
Wow -- really interesting and thought-provoking story. I'm actually doing research on moral frameworks of dads and stay-at-home dads for my master's thesis right now and (and I'm hoping this is allowed -- I just read the "Post a Comment FAQs" and wasn't sure) but if you're a dad and would like to have your values counted, please consider taking my survey. When you're finished, you can see how others responded and also get the address of the web site where I will summarize the results when my thesis is finished. Thanks for your help.
Here's the link: https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/DDRXJLZ
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Jason Ungar
12:35 AM on 02/03/2012
I am a stay at home dad. I guess I should let my son sleepover his friends house as long as man is there and let my daughter sleep over a friends house as long as a woman is there? People seem to be projecting their own fear and bias onto their children. How sad.
08:49 AM on 02/02/2012
Outside of the trust factor, why would a young girl feel comfortable around a man who isn't her father? I was shy and modest around my brothers and dad growing up, and it had nothing to do with a fear of them hurting me. Sleepovers produce all kinds of awkward moments (changing into pajamas, needing an emergency feminine product for older girls, missing home and needing a hug for younger girls, etc.). If your daughter wants to go to the sleepover, great. But honor her feelings of discomfort if she has them. We shouldn't be teaching our daughters to ignore that voice inside just so we can be politically correct.
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MissTake1989
Equal means equal, hypocrites.
06:18 AM on 02/03/2012
The article wasn't about daughter who were uncomfortable. It was about mom's who were uncomfortable.
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cleylol
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12:22 PM on 02/01/2012
I think if you know he is a good man and a good father, then you have no reason to worry. It's so offensive to imply that he might hurt a child, especially when he has children of his own.
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10:56 AM on 02/01/2012
The best advice I have heard in these comments is that we need to teach our children about sexual predators and other potential dangers in age-appropriate ways. We can never be absolutely certain that our children are going to be safe when they are not with us, so we are left with the choice of never leaving our childrens' side or equipping them to make good decisions.
08:46 AM on 02/01/2012
It's about how much you know and trust the person caring for your kid. If some person is worried than I doubt if gender would be the only issue. A bit of a false dilemma, then,
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08:27 AM on 02/01/2012
I love men... I married one. I gave birth to two... I have a brother and I had a father. I trust these men alone with my daughter.
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livefortruth
There is only ONE truth.
07:39 AM on 02/01/2012
I noticed some of the posters here, have assumed the consenting/non-consenting parent is the mother.

How do fathers feel about having their children sleep over?
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jf12
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11:54 AM on 02/01/2012
I did a sleep-over with another divorced father with daughters, but I slept over too, because we were out of town. In general I can't imagine any objection I would have that wouldn't also apply to women.
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07:35 AM on 02/01/2012
Sorry, but I would not allow my 10 year old daughter to sleep over a friend's house with just the father at home... I also don't allow her to walk the quarter mile to the bus stop either. I don't care what label you want to put on it, I call it protection.
09:50 AM on 02/16/2012
Thats called bigotry-- if thats how you feel fine, but dont ignore what it is
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TedEjr
How can they be Right when they are wrong so much
07:30 AM on 02/01/2012
Isn't it time we stopped stereotyping and generalizing, and assuming the worst, instead of making an informed judgment about the qualities of the individual person we are dealing with?
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07:40 AM on 02/01/2012
Parents no longer live in a world that allows us the luxury of believing it won't happen to our child. Sadly, a majority of pedophiles are men. Not a stereotype, just a fact.
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TedEjr
How can they be Right when they are wrong so much
12:36 PM on 02/01/2012
What is sadder, is that posters here cannot read, and insert unstated conclusions.
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Vote For Chunk
07:19 AM on 02/01/2012
So glad I dont have kids....
06:43 PM on 01/31/2012
Hard to believe unsubstantiated hatefulness like this made it onto the web.
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06:03 PM on 01/31/2012
To establish true equality between the sexes, is it necessary to devalue, demonize and debase males? Is it the only way to destroy the patriarchy? The increasing tendency over the last decades to treat men as second class human beings, especially in the realm of morality, character and humane feelings is becoming poisonous. The variance of behaviors within a sex is as great as between them. Yes, it is senseless to say the two are the same; fundamental biochemistry refutes that. But in the level of human behavior it is unconscionable that males are treated by all too many as little better than useful for cannon fodder or home maintenance. The reverse bias against males begins early. Many maintain a boy cannot be raped by a woman - it is just a "lucky score". The data showing young males are failing more academically, are less goal oriented, are less disciplined may be a reflection of how they are absorbing the message from a society that sees them as inferior humans solely because of their gender. Sitcoms make out the father, boyfriend, etc. to be the buffoon. Action movies portray them as bloodthristy, emotionless killing machines. How many horror butcher movies have female equivalents to Freddie Kruger? I am all for equality between the sexes; there is still much to be done for women, especially in the area of compensation. But I am beginning to fear that in destroying the structure of patriarchy, that another equally insidious cultural meme may be