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Lisa Kaas Boyle

Lisa Kaas Boyle

Posted: November 17, 2010 03:10 PM

With yesterday's L.A. County Plastic Bag Ban, The Los Angeles Board of Supervisors proved themselves superior to our California State Legislators in standing up to the petrochemical and plastic bag manufacturing industries. The day began with an animated press conference in front of the Board of Supervisors' Building and facing the Los Angeles Cathedral. The presence of the dramatic cathedral rising above and facing the speakers seemed to elevate the call for delivery from plastic bag pollution, as if plastic bags are yet another, albeit recent, addition to biblical plagues. Clearly for the Supervisors and the assembled environmentalists who had spent years and vast resources both tackling plastic pollution and meeting the procedural challenges to regulation set forth by chemical industry lobbyists, the plastic bag plague is indeed more frustrating than locusts. Speakers included Supervisor Mark Ridley-Thomas who was fiery in his denouncement of the plastic bag as an urban and coastal pollutant. "It's time to ban these damn bags!" he said, giving a clear preview of his vote a few hours later.

The vote to ban plastic bags followed party line with the three Democrats: Gloria Molina, Mark Ridley-Thomas and Zev Yaroslavsky voting for the ban, and Republican Michael Antonovich voting against. Antonovich repeated a claim often voiced by chemical industry lobbyists that low-income people would be forced to buy plastic bags to pick up their dog waste and carry their lunches.

Anotnovich's line of reasoning drew the indignation of recent college graduate Vanessa Molano who stated, "I am one of those low income people you are referring to. I am insulted that you think poor people don't care about our environment. I wonder who you care about -- your chemical industry friends or people like me."

The victory offers some satisfaction to the extensive coalition that recently took a state wide plastic bag ban all the way through the state assembly, with the support of Republican Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger, only to see the legislation die in the state senate after heavy lobbying by the American Chemistry Counsel. Assemblymember Julia Brownley (D), author of the state bag ban bill that was defeated, (AB 1998, the Single Use Plastic Bag Reduction Act), assured supporters yesterday that she will revive the legislation this session.

Though legislative controls on plastic pollution in California, and in this nation, may prove to be incremental, there will be a tipping point for multi-territorial businesses when it is in their interest to stop providing plastic bags since more and more jurisdictions will ban them. Across the globe, 25% of the world's population already lives in a jurisdiction where plastic bags are either banned or have associated fees. In California, Rick Eiden of the United Food and Commercial Workers Union (the UFCW), the union that represents the people who pack our groceries, says Californians deserve better than wasted tax dollars used to clean up plastic waste and higher grocery costs that cover the "free" single use bags. He looks forward to the day when the people he represents will no longer have to ask, "Paper or Plastic?"

 
With yesterday's L.A. County Plastic Bag Ban, The Los Angeles Board of Supervisors proved themselves superior to our California State Legislators in standing up to the petrochemical and plastic bag ma...
With yesterday's L.A. County Plastic Bag Ban, The Los Angeles Board of Supervisors proved themselves superior to our California State Legislators in standing up to the petrochemical and plastic bag ma...
 
 
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handyallen1
bleeding heart
02:51 AM on 11/21/2010
hum i wonder if there will be a market for selling these bags directly to the consumer so they can bring them to the store to bag there groceries
11:36 AM on 11/20/2010
Those who are informed, use reusable bags. Those who don't care, deny the existence of climate change, or who are simply consumed by other elements of living (foreclosing on their home, child has cancer, use food stamps to put food on the table, as examples) just need to be educated, with understanding.

Please, choose to educate. It is the simple answer.
10:05 PM on 11/19/2010
If someone can please answer this question, I'd appreciate it. Since this was a decision made by the County Supervisors, does this affect the entire city of L.A.? Along with the County? Or just everyone designated ONLY as part of the county.
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Shaun Hensley
The American Experiment has failed
07:36 PM on 11/22/2010
It affects ALL of LA County. The hierarchy of governments is Federal, then State, then County, then Local.
03:27 AM on 11/19/2010
I'm so glad to hear about this! I'm hoping that we can do it state-wide.

You tell them, Lisa. Your comments on the comments are great!
Gasparilla
there is no clean coal
08:06 PM on 11/18/2010
We simply refuse to recycle because most of us are just too lazy. [I do, btw] Maybe charging a quarter for each bag will work, with any money going to environmental concerns. I don't get the bottled water thing either, especially since a fraction are recycled. People have to be forced to do the right thing.
11:49 AM on 11/18/2010
5 Gyres has just discovered plastic debris in the South Atlantic, where their Sea Dragon is sailing now to Cape Town, So. Africa. No one has researched this area for marine plastic before and tragically, they're showing that this problem is global. But 5 Gyres' mission is change: solution is to stop using plastic bags and other single-use plastics. Follow their blog from the South Atlantic Gyre at http://www.5gyres.org.
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Lisa Kaas Boyle
01:36 PM on 11/18/2010
Anna and Marcus at 5gyres are brilliant and doing such important work. While more than 70% of the earth is covered with water, so little research is done on the blue parts - 5gyres is working so hard to catch us up on what we have been doing to the oceans with our plastic waste. THANK YOU!
11:00 PM on 11/17/2010
It's nice to see my birthplace has finally done it! San Jose is on it's way, but it's kinda slow here. Our neighbor San Francisco, I believe already did it. I think once a bunch of cities do it, it'll definitely be easier for the other states to follow. Man. I can't imagine how hard it was to get the first city in the U.S. to do it. Washington or Oregon, was it?
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Shaun Hensley
The American Experiment has failed
07:22 PM on 11/22/2010
I thought San Jose was the first.
09:16 PM on 11/17/2010
I am delighted that LA had the sense to move forward on this ban. We are trying to get our town to do the same. Plastic is so detrimental to the environment and to wildlife. It collects in the sea in gyres, breaks down, and is swallowed by fish. I, for one, want to be able to continue eating fish.
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Lisa Kaas Boyle
09:36 PM on 11/17/2010
Me too, though after seeing photos of the insides of fish bellies filled with plastic posted by my friends out at sea with 5gyres.org, I have to say I have lost my appetite a bit. Sylvia Earle the great oceanographer talks about an eerie sight she saw from her deep sea submersible: plastic bags floating inverted like so many ghosts where there was no light but the light from her equipment. Sylvia Earle gave a great talk at www.TEDxGreatPacificGarbagePatch.com that should be posted soon.
08:46 PM on 11/17/2010
I'm so happy to see that Los Angeles County is finally taking important steps on banning plastic bags. This is a start to so many things that need to be banned for a healthier environment. Next? Ban plastic bottles. Period. After that? Lower California's ridiculous fire retardant requirements in home furnishings and mattresses. HDhttp://www.rodale.com/flame-retardant-fabric?page=0%2C1, Last but not least? Ban plastic shrink wrap packaging from our foods where the leeching smell of petro-chemicals destroys the quality of the very food our corporate food conglomerates are trying to preserve.
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Lisa Kaas Boyle
10:57 PM on 11/17/2010
Pam, you should check out Arlene Blum's work if you haven't already. Not only is she a brilliant biochemist and expert on flame retardants, but she is also a world famous mountain climber. I saw her speak at TEDxGreatPacificGarbagePatch.com and she impressed me so much. She has one of the best smiles I have ever seen. She told me what to look for on my furniture tags to see if I am being poisoned and I've been too afraid to look - She posted photos of her couch being hauled off when she discovered that she and her cat both had astronomical levels of the horrible flame retardant that was required by CA law. What's really crazy is that this flame retardant didn't even stop fire - it just made stuff smoke more and then burn and more people die from fumes than fire! We have gone chemical crazy in this country. If you want to have nightmares, check out the Environmental Working Group site and read about their tests of umbilical fluid. Even babies get dosed with patented chemicals before they hit air! Then take a look at The Campaign for Safe Cosmetics. Stacy Malkin also spoke at our conference TEDxGreatPacificGarbagePatch. She is a self professed cosmetics lover who exposes all the dangerous ingredients. It just all makes me want to lead as pure and natural a life as I can here in Los Angeles!
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Lance Manling
08:43 PM on 11/17/2010
I guess LA has nothing more important to worry about than the plastic bag "problem".

The reason why the state legislation got shot down is because it was simply a bad idea.
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Lisa Kaas Boyle
09:06 PM on 11/17/2010
If you want to have some real information about what plastic bags do to the environment check out the website www.TEDxGreatPacificGarbagePatch.org and visit www.plasticpollutioncoalition.org and watch some videos that may change your mind about how serious this problem is. Another great site is www.algalita.org . Also www.5gyres.org.
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Lance Manling
11:17 AM on 11/18/2010
I know that I am convinced by the panel of environmental activist listed on the first site. Do you have any credible studies listed.
07:42 PM on 11/17/2010
I see a lawyer posted so if I'm wrong I'll be corrected and I will Mea Culpa.

It may be this law violates the newly enacted Prop 26, which now requires a 2/3 voter approval for any taxes or now "fees" of which ordering stores to impose a 10 cent "fee" on each paper bag given. This law took effect Nov. 3. To comply with this law the LA Sups should have placed this on the ballot for 2012 or called a special election. As it stands now this law is ripe for a lawsuit based upon violating Prop 26.
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Lisa Kaas Boyle
08:40 PM on 11/17/2010
This is not a tax or a fee because it doesn't get collected by government. There is no agency collecting fees. The 10 cents for a paper bag goes to the store to cover the cost of the bag. Nobody has to pay for paper bags however. All you have to do is bring your own.
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Lance Manling
08:45 PM on 11/17/2010
Regardless of what you call it, costs increase if you choose a paper bags. Good job, one less choice the consumer has.
04:16 PM on 11/18/2010
Fair enough. However, my beef with what you said is "it goes to cover the cost of the bag." The Sups are giving the store no choice as to if they want to charge or not, and this is why I say the gov't is demanding a fee. Store didn't charge to give out plastic or paper before, why don't they have the same choice now to give the customer a paper bag for free as they did before.

I have no problem if you say just ban plastic bags, period. Fine. My problem is the Sups telling the store that they now have to charge you 10 cents for a paper bag that was free before. It is the stores choice to decide if they want to charge for a bag or not, not the governments choice to make for them!
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Shaun Hensley
The American Experiment has failed
07:28 PM on 11/22/2010
Actually, Prop 26 DOESN'T require 2/3rd voter approval. It requires 2/3rds legislative body approval.

The legislative body that approved this measure, did so on a 3 to 1 vote, or 3/4ths.
06:06 PM on 11/17/2010
Good job Supes. Everywhere you go you see those damn bags littering the landscape. It may not be a a giant step in the grand scheme of things, but if it cleans up a lot of that mess it's well worth the effort and cost.
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camanokat
Outta this world
06:05 PM on 11/17/2010
I don't think an outright ban is the way to go. Give the shoppers incentives to bring their own re-usable bags. We buy most of our produce from a local food co-op. If you bring your own bag, you get a token that can be placed in one of several jars benefiting local charities. Each month, the Co-op donates money to each of those charities in the proportion of tokens received.

I keep several re-usable bags in the car. It's now a habit. No matter where I shop, I bring my re-usable bags with me. I have Costco sized bags, 2 insulated bags and lots of standard-sized bags. A bonus is that they are sturdy and the contents don't fall out all over the back like plastic bags.
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Lisa Kaas Boyle
08:51 PM on 11/17/2010
These incentives haven't worked to decrease plastic bag pollution, unfortunately. Most people are on auto pilot at the market and don't change their behavior unless there is a cost associated with the behavior. Only a very negligible number of bags get to recycling facilities and even then, the majority are not recycled because the value of the material is so low and the bags jam the machines. In LA County, the bags mostly go to landfill or get shipped overseas. Thanks for sharing your good habits!

Fees, on the other hand, are effective in reducing demand for plastic bags. Ireland is a perfect example of this. Use of the bags decreased by 90 % with a 15 cent fee. In California, The American Chemistry Counsel lobby got state legislation passed to prohibit fees on plastic bags, so a ban was the only option left on the table.
04:12 PM on 11/17/2010
Good for them! Gangs fight each other in the streets for control; publicists are gunned down on the way home from film premiers; illegals reign and gobble up public services; basically, chaos rules. BUT THOSE DAMN PESKY PLASTIC BAGS AREN'T GOING TO CAUSE US ANY PROBLEMS!
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Lisa Kaas Boyle
05:23 PM on 11/17/2010
Wow. As a former Deputy District Attorney for Los Angeles County, I really appreciate your concern about crime, both violent and environmental. The good news is that our murder rate is down. The bad news is that each one of us, including newborns, have additives from plastic products in our bloodstreams. That is a crime in my book. As for violent crimes on the streets of L.A., I am sure you understand that the millions the County saves in cleanup costs from our stormdrains and highways and beaches can be much better spent on law enforcement and salaries for investigators and prosecutors in both the criminal gang units and environmental crimes sections.
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07:45 PM on 11/17/2010
It's all connected. The way we treat our earth is the way we treat ourselves and our fellow man. Nothing is unimportant. i will go so far as to postulate that fewer plastic baqs in our ocean will equate to less murder. you may say I'm a dreamer...
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Lisa Kaas Boyle
08:53 PM on 11/17/2010
But your not the only one, Patrick.
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camanokat
Outta this world
02:01 AM on 11/18/2010
Yes, it is...all connected. F&F.