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Lisa Solod Warren

Lisa Solod Warren

Posted: November 11, 2010 02:49 PM

Within the past few days, young and famous feminist Jessica Valenti defended her decision not to take part in a panel based on More magazine's recent list of hip and important young feminists and Nora Ephron all but dismissed the old-line feminist movement of the Seventies by esstentially calling women of that era "irritable" in a Huffington Post article taken from her new book.

Is feminism schizophrenic or what?

Although I have disagreed with Valenti on several occasions and have always found Ephron dead on and funny, I now find myself agreeing with Valenti and wanting to throttle Ephron.
Valenti took exception to an invitation to Alison Kasic, to also appear on the panel (which included Valenti and several prominent feminists) because while Valenti " could go on the panel to argue about the definition of feminism and the co-opting of the movement... when I agree to be on a panel I'm accepting the terms of a debate - and it's not a debatable point whether people whose policies actively harm women are feminists." (emphasis Valenti)

It appears that Kasic, is a senior fellow with the Independent Women's Forum, which, despite it's claim that "All Issues Are Women's Issues," wants only to appeal to "mainstream women, men and families," clearly a sign that women in non-traditional roles, lesbians, single mothers, and so on, are not included. From position papers on the bad effects of Title IX, to conservative opinions on health care and business, among other issues, it doesn't look like the IWF has a truly feminist bone in its body. Like many of today's feminists who begin their defense of women's "rights" with the phrase "I'm not a feminist, but...." there is a disconnect between what has gone before, where we are now, and where we simply must go. Despite some claims that our society has achieved gender and race and religious equity, any thinking person knows that that is simply not so: misogyny, racism, anti-Semitism, and growing anti-Muslim sentiments abound, no matter how we wish it were not so.

Good on Valenti, then. Mama Grizzlies like Palin, apologists like Kasic, and wannabes like Christine O'Donnell do a great disservice to the modern women's movement. But, I would argue, so does Ephron by not acknowledging that divorce in her era was about far more than women merely being pissed off and wanting to "find themselves."

Once again, it seems, women are being pitted against each other. And we are doing a lot of the pitting ourselves.


Nothing new there, really. Save for the issue as to who gets to call herself a feminist these days.

In the October 2010 issue of Harper's, Susan Faludi dissects the differences between the new and old feminists while providing a historical context, her thesis being that "while American feminism has long, and productively, concentrated on getting men to give women some of the power they used to give only to their sons, it hasn't figured out how to pass power down from woman to woman, to bequeath authority to its progeny. Its inability to conceive of a succession has crippled women's progress not just within the women's movement but in every venue of American public life."

Which is why women seem to be fighting the same old battles over and over. Many of them against ourselves.

In the Seventies, while many women passionately embraced Marilyn French's The Women's Room as a book that finally spoke to them as real people, others thought the book's radical agenda and over-the-top story squelched all serious discussion. The naysayers lost: what French did was continue a dialogue that is still going on today. Because we need it to. I sincerely believe that women would love to be in the position of never having to consider feminism as a cause again--which, of course, would mean we had achieved true equality with men in terms of wages, rights, and society's acceptance--but until that happens, the conversation must continue. And continue in a constructive, instructive way. Not with us at each other's throats.


I was one of those women who grew up and came of sexual age in the early to mid-Seventies> Young women often aren't interested in our stories and I can't quite blame them, but they shouldn't think that their sexual adventures or "liberation" is anything new. And like those of us who came earlier, they shouldn't think that sexual freedom necessarily means equality. Our generation learned, sadly enough, that that freedom came with some very high prices. Yet, as Faludi points out, this issue divides older and newer feminists even now, and very much poses problems for those of us in the middle. As she writes,

"At the age of fifty-one, and by birth cohort a member of neither the second nor the third wave, I am not exempt. Sometimes I find myself in rooms where, by default and despite my years, I'm expected to represent the youthful feminist viewpoint because there's no one younger around. More often, a middle-aged grumpiness tends to place me on the "old" side, as when I open a leading feminist work and find a prominent third-wave feminist defending her "extreme bikini wax" or read a feminist blog in which a young woman avers that "wearing a Wonderbra is a statement of empowerment" and expounds on the pleasures of "choosing between 'apricot sundae' and 'mocha melt' eye shadow." Well, fine, I think. Who cares? When I first began writing about women's rights nearly two decades ago, I liked to say that feminism was the simply worded sign hoisted by a little girl in the 1970 Women's Strike for Equality: i am not a barbie doll. Now I'm not so sure."

Faludi goes on to talk about the schism in today's feminism and admits that it isn't wholly responsible for the movement's problems. But when we fight amongst ourselves we will, absolutely, get less done for all women.

Simply put, we need to figure out ways to work with our differences, as opposed to against them.
But the biggest single connector should be the notion that women's rights and issues matter, not just to and for women, but to and for everyone.

There are those who argue that any woman can call herself a feminist, merely because she wants to. But I come down on Valenti's side of the equation: anyone can call herself a feminist if she doesn't advocate policies that infringe on the rights of other people, especially, but not particularly women. In other words, a feminist can be against abortion for herself personally, as long as she is not out there trying to get laws changed so that no one has a choice. In other words, a woman can call herself a feminist as long as she doesn't summarily dismiss the accomplishments of women in favor of lesser achievements of men, and a woman can call herself a feminist as long as she doesn't brand an entire generation of women who were trying mightily to make their way in a time more difficult for woman than we live in today with the broad brush of "irritable." In fact, that word calls to mind the diagnoses of hysteria and other "women's" complaints that physicians such as Silas Weir Mitchell used to keep women at home, in bed, and under the thumb of their men. Or, worse, rotting away in an institution.

If influential women like Ephron dismiss the anger of the second wave feminists as mere irritability, if conservative women co-opt the term feminist for an agenda which is anything but, and if young women persist in thinking that sexual freedom equals equality, we will be stuck where we are for a long time yet to come.

 

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06:42 PM on 11/11/2010
Well, it looks like women on the west coast really get it about a spirit of cooperation and camaraderie. This article in the NY Times is telling about the benefits of working with other women:

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/11/business/smallbusiness/11sbiz.html?src=me&ref=business
05:41 PM on 11/11/2010
For those American feminists who don't remember or haven't learned their history well, the Equal Rights Amendment in the US was passed by both houses of Congress in 1972, and has since been ratified by 35 states. Despite missing the 1979 deadline, supporters and legal scholars agree that we still need just three more states to pass the ERA in order to make it the next Amendment to the Constitution. Three. Any woman in any field who has been paid less than her male counterparts might consider this: isn't that something more important to fight for than more choices of eye shadow colors or the right to wear a Wonderbra to work? In the prophetic words of famous suffragist Alice Paul, "We shall not be safe until the principle of equal rights is written into the framework of our government."
05:41 PM on 11/11/2010
I guess it's a measure of feminism's success that new generations of women consider their freedoms--sexual and otherwise--the new normal. They've grown up in a world in which women hold many--though not anywhere near a majority--of the most powerful positions in America, not to mention the world. But for a different perspective, go see the new British film "Made in Dagenham." It's somewhat fluffy (the director also made "Calendar Girls" and "Saving Grace"), but it tells the inspiring story of a group of working-class women who pushed for equal pay from the Ford Motor Company, way back in 1968. With their own union against them, sometimes even their own husbands, and Ford and the media painting them as obstacles to full employment (presumably for men) in England, this group of spunky women forced Ford--and eventually the British government--to hear their cause and take them seriously. After much hard work and the loss of considerable income (which, as working class women, they desperately needed to support their families), they won their strike, which led to the Equal Pay Act of 1970.
05:41 PM on 11/11/2010
Much ink has been spilled over the different way Hillary Clinton was treated in the 2008 presidential election. No fan of the Clintons in general, I still bridled when journalists dismissed her due to her appearance or lack of emotion. Men are never expected to gush while campaigning, so why should women be expected to do so? Now I look at her quiet but steady focus on world problems, in particular the plight of women in places like Nigeria, the Middle East and Eastern Europe, and I think, Wow, she's really shining--she's found her voice. Nora Ephron would be hard pressed to call her "irritable"! She's effective, capable and inspiring--a true heroine for our age.
05:40 PM on 11/11/2010
Such an incisive, thoughtful piece, Lisa! I grew up with a feminist mother who nevertheless constantly struggled to be heard in a very male world. French's book, as well as those by Betty Friedan, Gail Sheehy and others were always around the house, and I was taught as a girl to speak up, out and often. But in the working world, I found women not as apt to mentor me or help me up the ladder as I'd hoped. Indeed, I my male colleagues and bosses were much more encouraging and supportive than the women around me--a strange, discomfiting and disheartening experience. I imagine it may have been in part because they themselves were struggling to make it in a man's game (magazine publishing, academia), but I never understood why they didn't see the benefit in banding together and working as a team with their fellow women writers, editors, professors, etc. As a result, I now try to help as many young women as I can. It's the least I can do to pay back feminism for all it's given me: self-esteem, a healthy sexuality, and most of all, the sense that I can do anything I set my mind to, while also accepting the consequences (as any man must).
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Lisa Solod Warren
09:38 PM on 11/11/2010
Thanks! And yes, I also try my best to mentor other women and educate my own daughter as to the truth,.
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05:14 PM on 11/11/2010
What a cogent and telling comment! Thanks so much for reading. You make such good points.
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04:30 PM on 11/11/2010
I've got you by about eight years and have been dismayed about the status of feminism for some time now; one wonders if the strides in the Seventies ever actually happened. I seem to be surrounded by too many younger women who make June Cleaver look avant-garde. They call their husbands to come home from work because they can't cope with taking more than one child to the dentist, or deal with a discipline problem, or unclog a toilet. They buy their nine year old daughters Material Girl and Betsey Johnson clothes, apparently in the hope that they are dressing for the job they want (hookers?).

Here at HP, we read too many people pro-Palin and anti-Pelosi with stated opinions that rely soley on physical attributes. We still see women in positions of power described as women (the cleverer amongst us can often figure that out based on their names or pictures); I've yet to hear Justice Scalia, for example, described as either white or male (then how can I be sure?). Consider the number of women in Congress just now, or running major corporations. Thirty years after the Liberation Movement, Clinton still talked about glass ceilings. With reason.

In entertainment, it is rare to see an unattractive woman, but sloppy, overweight men are a staple on sitcoms. Then there's the obviousity of the lyrics in rap.

Worse, I don't see women helping women as I saw before; and that's the most telling of all.
02:59 PM on 11/11/2010
The first point here is a reasonable one I remember thinking about when I read Christina Hoff Sommers. There should be room for all kinds of feminisms. But a feminism that is based in opposing all other kinds of feminism is not itself a feminism. If the only positive aspect of your worldview is that you disagree with feminists, that does not make one a different kind of feminist. Nor does being female alone.
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09:37 PM on 11/11/2010
Feminism that doesn't allow women their rights and freedoms isn't feminism, either.