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Why College Grads Aren't Employable

Posted: 08/10/2012 8:47 pm

A mom called me to get some advice for her son, who's about to start his senior year of college. "His grades are fantastic," she said. "He's going to be job-hunting in nine months, and my husband and I are very worried for him, because of the economy."

"You say your son's grades are terrific," I said. "What about the rest of the package -- do you think he's well-equipped in general to enter the workforce? Does he have a sense of himself, has he solved some real-life problems somewhere along the line, and does he have some mojo to bring to the job search, and the job?"

Mom thought about that for a second. "He is a smart kid," she said. "He's always excelled academically." "And otherwise?" I asked. "Is he spunky? Can he deal with real life pretty well?"

"I can't say that I totally understand what you're asking me," said the anxious mom.
"Can you do one thing for me? Can you give me two or three job titles that my son should be focusing on, in his job search?"

"What is his major?" I asked her. "Communications," she said. "Why did he pick that major?" I asked. "That is a strange question!" said Mom.

And that, you guys, is the problem.

"Why did your son pick Communications for a major?" is not a strange question -- it's the only question with any relevance for a prospective employer. Who is this kid, anyway? What does he care about? Why did he pick the major that he did? If it's because his mom told him to, that's not a great sign. If it's because he realized somewhere along the way that he loves communicating and wants to do it professionally, that's wonderful.

We churn out college grads who think that getting straight As and towing the line are the keys to a happy life. We don't say to kids in school, "Hey, what do you want to do? What are you curious about?" We say "Here is today's assignment. Here is the mark you need to hit." Can we be surprised that kids come out of the chute after four years in college, not knowing what they want to do, or what the possibilities might be? We haven't built their muscles for figuring out where they could make themselves useful, have fun and support themselves. We've built their getting-good-grades and coloring-inside-the-lines muscles, instead.

You can imagine what interview-weary employers tell me. "Three-quarters of these kids have the academic credentials, and zip-all else to bring to the table," they say. "I need a kid with some guts and confidence. Where are the kids who mowed lawns? I want the kid who knows how real life works." Of course they do. That's not what we emphasize, in school -- how real life works. As my son's fourth-grade teacher said to me last year, "It is extremely important for him to finish all the exercises on the page."

"Why?" I asked her. "He completes three or four problems, he understands the concept, and he gets bored. Could he jump over to a different activity at that point?"

"He will be kept in for recess if he doesn't finish all the problems on the page," she said. "There is a reason there are a certain number of problems on the worksheet." "I wonder," I said. "It seems to me that the worksheet has a certain number of problems on it because that is the number of problems that fit on the page."

When we teach kids to respect authority over their own gut and to value what's conferred on them by others (awards and trophies and gold stars, and then later, big titles and offices and staffs and budgets and more awards and trophies and gold stars) over what they know and experience themselves, we get kids with no connection to the real world, the horse-sense world that they will enter and have to thrive in after graduation.

I talk to these kids and their parents all day long. These are affluent people who believe that parenting means protecting your kid from real life. They believe that if the kid has a chance to go on a safari and burnish his international-travel resume over the summer, that trumps staying home and working at Target, where the kid might learn something about merchandising and customer service and getting out of bed to be at work every morning. We end up with well-educated, well-brought-up new grads who are all but unemployable.

Employers aren't stupid (except the ones that crow "We only hire Ivy Leaguers!"). They know that kids who know who they are, what they want, and how to deal with life on the ground make the best new hires. Those instincts are built in kids by challenging them with real-life problems and expecting them to take responsibility for their decisions. As one mom told me, "I put my daughter in a competitive summer academic program, because all she could hope for in our town would be nannying over the summer."

A kid could learn how to chase toddlers around, wipe spit off a baby's cheek, calm a crying baby, organize activities for preschoolers, and keep her calm during daily crises -- or she could sit in a classroom, as she does during the rest of the school year, and take tests. From a real-world-experience standpoint, there's no question -- the kid should take the nanny job. How could a mom think otherwise?

The Communications major's mom asked me again, "What are some of the jobs my son could apply for?" "With a Communications degree, your son could work in literally tens of thousands of different job titles," I said. "Any organization with more than 10 employees (and lots of smaller ones) could use someone with that background. It isn't a matter of job titles that you son would be qualified for -- that list is way too big to be useful. The question is, what is he passionate about?"

"I don't know," said the mom. "I don't know if he is passionate about anything." "Then forget the job search, for now," I told her. "May is months away. Talk to the kid about what he's learned, and what he's thinking about. He could get a journal and write in it. He can reflect on these four years in college, and the 18 years before that. He can think about what interests him. I'm sure you want to see him a job that suits him, that will celebrate who he is, yes?"

"Any job would be fine," said Mom. And that, you guys, is the problem.

 
 
 

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A mom called me to get some advice for her son, who's about to start his senior year of college. "His grades are fantastic," she said. "He's going to be job-hunting in nine months, and my husband and ...
A mom called me to get some advice for her son, who's about to start his senior year of college. "His grades are fantastic," she said. "He's going to be job-hunting in nine months, and my husband and ...
 
 
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12:32 PM on 08/20/2012
Bang on the nail, Liz! Too many people like you describe don't get the difference between getting a job and being employable. It's like they only see the next wave and not the need to learn how to sail their boat whatever the sea conditions (which their grades won't do for them). Lifelong learning means learning to leap several times. Great piece!
12:26 PM on 08/20/2012
Bang on the nail, Liz! Not enough understanding out there among those people you describe about the difference between getting a job and being employable. And they haven't seen anything yet! Wait until they have to leap a dozen times in their life. It's like all their interested in is the next wave when they really need to learn how to sail their boat whatever the sea conditions. Learning to leap is a lifetime's challenge. Great piece!
06:00 AM on 08/17/2012
Great article!!!
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01:30 AM on 08/14/2012
You hit it right on. Young engineers have to be taught how to answer a phone at work. It isn't just "yeah". Ya know? is not a good ending to a sentence. They have to be taught that the computer on their desk is not theirs. What is done on it is the company's property. Even their emails. Shorts and sneakers are not right for an office. Emblazoned Tees either. Yeah, it is rough out here. Mummy dose not call at work, unless it is an extreme emergency - like a death. AND NEVER does she call your boss to explain why you aren't up to a task. Even if she has a helicopter.
There are classes for new hires. Ah those 60's changed a lot, not all for the better. Ya know?
04:15 PM on 08/13/2012
The combination of globalization and high levels of automation is eliminating jobs at an unprecedented rate. Combine this with short sighted thinking on the part of companies that are increasingly unwilling to train capable employees on specific job skills. Rather, they want to find the employees that have both the skill and the experience, typically in highly unusual combinations with other skills.

When I was a manager, I looked for intelligence, drive, flexibility, and an appropriate background. I would train the specific job skills, as the other factors were far more important on the long run. As a consultant, I don't see much of such thinking extant in corporations anymore.

But students need to be doing their part as well. Many are not.
02:17 PM on 08/13/2012
You criticize parents for not preparing their children for the "real world", yet you lobby for your child not to have to complete their homework? Every job I have had required you to finish the task placed before you by your employer.
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09:59 PM on 08/12/2012
"I need a kid with some guts and confidence. Where are the kids who mowed lawns? I want the kid who knows how real life works." Funny, if your over 45 and unemployed, have proven you have some guts and confidence and knows how real life works" - your either overqualified or no one cares about your real life experience, degree or no degree. Sorry it's all a bunch of BS, the people who get jobs are usually the ones that are best at self promotion and not the most qualified for the position. Look at our elected representatives just for a start. Most qualified to lead? Don't think so, impressive degrees from top Ivy league schools, but, mom and dad handed them everything, no REAL life experience, just spending time at the club, spending their trust fund. Hey, don't worry, Dads got a few connections on Wall Street, we can get you a job as an investment banker. Sorry state of affairs in the USA today for all of us except those that already have money and power.
01:43 AM on 08/12/2012
I've been trying to figure out what irritated me more, the tagline or the content, and I have to go with the tagline. It has nothing to do with your article. If anything, this should be a criticism of a generation of poor parenting. You can't expect children to magically undo 18 years of sheltering and overbearing parents in four years. The mother in your story sounds a lot like mine, someone who cares about their child and wants them to succeed. Is it fair to judge the child on the mom's actions? Did the son ask her to contact you? No, the mother simply hears the news about how horrible the economy is and wanted to seek out the expertise of a professional. And you chose to make an example of her and cry that an entire generation is spoiled because, what exactly? That our parents care about our well being?

The college grades "we churn out" are more employable than ever, as will be the next generation. They are more well rounded and have worked to higher standards than your generation is capable of understanding. But continue to raise the ladder to the roof and wonder what is "wrong" with my generation when you had an escalator take you to the top.
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10:39 PM on 08/11/2012
All the data suggests that people with degrees have a steadier rate and length of employment
08:50 PM on 08/11/2012
Liz Ryan, you are living in a dream world. You fail to understand that there are less jobs available for the number of people looking for work. No matter what they do students will be left without the jobs they are capable of doing. The main problem with the economy is that corporations do not need a lot of workers to execute their business. And the politicians do not want to create jobs for the unwanted workers.

The job market is highly competitive now more than anytime in our history. People holding two Masters degrees cannot find jobs after being fired. Only the corporations and government can solve the problem. However, the plebiscite does not mandate any jobs programs to alleviate the unemployment mess because the voters are so afraid of the bourgeoning capital debt that can potentially bankrupt the nation.

Our "new world" nation is morphing into feudalistic Europe where a very small percentage of people owned all the wealth and everyone else was just poor. And the American people are not smart enough to say: "we cannot have that"! What ever happened to the American Dream? WE are allowing it to be taken away... They (the rich and powerful) don't even want us to dream anymore.
07:42 PM on 08/11/2012
If employers want creative thinkers, who are able to engage in critical thinking and challenge the way their company approaches the problem; then they should stop emphasizing good grades as a hiring prerequisite. I remember getting out of grad school that all the employers were trying to get the "top 5%" in the class, and that they would not consider someone with an interesting story, so why wouldn't this result in people focusing on the grade and nothing else? If employers are tired of seeing unemployable job candidates, they should stop asking for them and invent some real job search and interview criteria that yields meaningful results.
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07:46 PM on 08/12/2012
I couldn't agree with you more, Joseph. Plenty of employers do hire for critical thinking and other skills apart from test-taking. Stay away from the ones that don't!
02:24 PM on 08/11/2012
My Summa Cum Laude grad who worked up to 4 jobs at a time in college and also held internships in her chosen field (Sustainability) is still looking for a job - despite starting her search in February before she graduated. She did land a summer Sustainability fellowship at Yale which looks good on her resume - but my question is, if someone who does all of the right things and who knows what she wants, cannot find a job, what hope is there for the kids who are unprepared?
My daughter is personable, articulate, knowedgeable in her field, and has organizational and people management experience that is far beyond most graduates of her age. She is extremely employable, and still she is struggling.
I agree with Liz that the student in her example is unlikely to find meaningful employment, but I don't think he exemplifies all college grads. In this economy even the well prepared and experienced grads face enormous challenges. I take issue with the title of this article "Why college grads aren't employable." While it makes excellent points about a particular group of college grads it tars all of them with the same brush and presents an overly simplistic view of the current complicated employment situation for folks who have just received their diplomas.
04:21 PM on 08/11/2012
@ "ThinksLotsSayLittle"

(Actually, "ThinksALotSaysLittle" would be better grammar but I suppose we get the point...or do we ?)

Quote :

"My daughter is personable, articulate, knowledgeable in her field, and has organizational and people management experience"

Yes I'm sure your daughter is very "capable", (whatever that means), but does she know how to THINK ?...Think for herself and not just for the edification and enjoyment and progression of those around her. What sense does she have of herself as a person...to name just one question...

Her life is just beginning. Does she not have a right to decide her own destiny ?

These are just a few of the points in Ms. Ryan's article.

This is just one article in a blog; I suspect Ms. Ryan's intent was not to draw out a ponderous complete map for this generation's problems.

Quote :

"I take issue with the title of this article "Why college grads aren't employable."

It would appear that Ms. Ryan has spoken with hundreds of potential employers. How many have you spoken with lately ?

J.B.
12:38 PM on 08/12/2012
Sorry J.B. but "ThinkLotsSayLittle" is perfectly grammatical - your addition of a superflous "s" renders it less so - but that is your issue - not mine :).
My point, which you seem to have failed to grasp, is that the title of the article is overly broad, that not all college grads meet the description provided, and that even those who are much better prepared than the young man in the story are having difficulty.
I am a big fan of Liz Ryan and have followed her writing for years. She has lots of insightful things to say about today's workplace. However, in this case, I wanted to draw attention to that fact that not all college graduates should be placed in the same bucket - and that the bucket she has described, does not contain the only reasons why these graduates are having difficulty finding jobs.
07:33 PM on 08/11/2012
Good for you both. She may want to look into Cargill (Agricultural Based) - http://www.cargill.com/careers/search-apply/index.jsp

As to your other question about students who are in similar positions and less academically gifted or prepared in some way. The market SUCKS! Businesses are not able to begin and grow because of the economy. Obama, Congress, Republicans, etc. all have earned blame here. However, these "blanket" degrees without a focus are a problem. I am not detracting from the student but the schools. I have noticed they don't even give these kids the oars to get out in the job pool or perhaps start their OWN business. That is a thought...perhaps a Sustainability Consultant is needed more than an employee performing the task. Also she should look into LinkedIn.com and start learning about other's jobs, skills, background, etc.

Best of luck!
02:13 PM on 08/11/2012
The fact is that far too many of today's young college studnts lack any form of social skills needed for success in the work place.
09:01 PM on 08/11/2012
"social skills" meaning what exactly?
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01:34 AM on 08/14/2012
Your kidding, right?
02:04 AM on 08/12/2012
Many (by no means all) tend to be extremely introverted and needy. I would say that this is largely due to over iinvolved parents.
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01:35 AM on 08/14/2012
Bingo!!!!!
01:58 AM on 08/11/2012
Saturday, August 11, 2012
2:55 AM CST

@ "Liz Ryan"

This is a great article; hopefully "not a day late and a dollar short"...that "mom" wasn't too big on critical thinking; is she typical with the affluent class ? (I know, a rhetorical question !) ...:)...

Apparently they STILL don't teach CT at college/university level. Critical thinking should be a mandatory part of any Freshman curriculum. Myself and a lot of my friends were saying this decades ago. (There are reasons why our culture is sorely lacking in teaching critical thinking; you might want to check out the famous "Rede Lecture" at Cambridge for starters. 1959. C.P. Snow, "The Two Cultures"...great read, about 50 pages)

Very scary.

J.B.
12:51 AM on 08/11/2012
Because there are no jobs?