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Lola Adesioye

Lola Adesioye

Posted: April 18, 2010 07:50 PM

Should there be a "black agenda" in America? And if the answer to that question is 'yes,' what is the black agenda?

These are the questions that black leaders and black people have been discussing more and more since President Obama took office. Last week, Reverend Al Sharpton hosted a leadership summit addressing this very issue. Today a group of black leaders got together on an MSNBC special to talk about this issue in more detail. And many will remember the on-air argument that Tavis Smiley and Rev Sharpton had a few weeks ago about this topic.

Tavis believes that Obama isn't doing enough. Sharpton believes that Obama need not 'ballyhoo' a black agenda. I think most agree, though, that something needs to be done.

With a 16.5% unemployment rate (compared to 9.7% for white Americans), an education system that is under serving black children, higher than average rates of death from diseases like breast cancer, and continued social issues, it is hard to disagree that there is need for some kind of targeted and focused approach to dealing with the issues that affect African-American. But many are divided on whether or not the president is doing enough for black people, whether or not it's incumbent on him to do anything at all, and what should or shouldn't be done.

My view is that a black agenda is definitely needed. As I have written before, "solving the issues that affect African-Americans strengthens America as a whole, since chronic unemployment, foreclosures and health care issues have not only a cultural and societal impact but an economic one." I am also of the belief that a black agenda -- which I define as one which would take into account the current and pre-existing conditions of black America and actively seek to do something about them specifically rather than simply addressing them as part of a wider economic, educational or other policy -- is an obligation. Any society which ignores, or overlooks, those of its citizens who are not doing well, as is happening at the moment, is a society that cannot function to its full potential.

The black agenda is not just one for the president nor certain black leaders to address; it is for all black people within the black community to take leadership on.

Listen as Dr Boyce Watkins and I talk the issue out.

 

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littlebrowngirl
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01:17 PM on 05/04/2010
MLK had a dream but he also used his words and actions wisely. Obama has a dream but also knows that you have to work to get results.

I had been a fan of Tavis until the recent arguement with Sharpton and constant berating of Obama about the Black agenda. For Tavis does the black agenda involve him doing more than talk about it? What does tavis plan to DO as a result? I think the time for talk is over and the time for action is now. Tavis missed the boat. I hope it is not too late for him to catch up.
10:11 PM on 04/19/2010
Life is about choices and America has plenty of opportunities for those that want to succeed and those that are willing to work hard to be successful. There are a lot of great black leaders that are living proof that opportunities exist for those that are willing to work hard and make sacrafices. Nothing in life is handed to anybody and I don't care what color you are. I am well aware of racism and that it exist, but it exist on both sides of the fence. How can government intervention help with a social issue that starts at home? Can the government make parents sit down with their kids to do homework, or make a father act like a father? This is equivalent to whites wanting a white agenda to focus on the poverty of rural white Americans where there is a high rate of drops outs with very few earning a degree, teen pregnancies, drug use, poverty, and a high unemployment rate. How well do you think that would go over?
Immigrants can come here with nothing and successfully start their own business and build wealth, even with a cultural and language barrier, but you mean to tell me a black person that was born and raised here can't? It breaks down to hard work and sacrafice and if a middle eastern can come to the US after 911 and successfully own and operate a business and be welcomed in his community - anyone can - if they
10:50 AM on 04/20/2010
Life is about choices...correct. However, not everyone has the same choices available to them.

Are some of these children just throwing away opportunities? Yes...but if you knew any of these kids, you'd know that the majority of them aren't throwing them away because they want to live off the government dole (which is the common misconception), they just don't see any opportunities that THEY feel are realistic. It's hard to convince a kid who's grown up poor, and SURROUNDED by violence, with very few or NO role models (unless you count drug dealers), sometimes has no heat, no electricity that by simply going to school everyday will lead them out of poverty. It's tough when you don't have any concrete examples (neighbors, etc.) Yet you somehow feel that their ONLY problem is a lack of "hard work"?? Really? How sure are you that had YOU grown up in the exact same conditions, that you would've turned out the same? There's a reason parents want to send their children to the best schools, and raise them in safe neighborhoods.

That said, YES, parents need to do a better job ensuring that their children receive a proper education. YES, there needs to be greater accountability for personal choices...but to paint the totality of the problem as simply a lack of effort, as if somehow we live in an alternate universe where the SAME effort from everyone produces the SAME results, is to over simplify the situation.
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12:34 PM on 04/21/2010
Read "Death at an Early Age" by Jonathan Kozol and tell me again that America "has plenty of opportunities for those who want to succeed". Tell me how there is equal opportunity in communities where this very thing is systemically denied by keeping property values in certain communities?

The issue is not whether or not there are examples of those willing to work hard and sacrifice. What you miss is the reason such hard work and sacrifice were required. There were laws that allowed employers, schools, hospitals and landlords to deny them access simply because. The issue is that many people were denied that opportunity to even have access to any kind of work!

So let's dispense with the lectures on hard work. Could work be any harder than that done by those struggling for freedom, for demanding that the nation live up to its creed?

The people who murdered Oscar Grant are the same who murdered Emmitt Till. I guess you might call that another kind of "equal opportunity".
01:30 PM on 04/19/2010
Should there be a black agenda in America? NO Not any more than there should be a white agenda in the government.

Racism is racism is racism.

Favoring one race over another is racism.

To give one person an advantage over another because of his skin is racism and should not be a part of this nation.
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02:47 PM on 04/19/2010
Except that it has been a part of this nation, by way of law, since this has been a nation. Let's not even talk about before then, ok?

Where have you been?
05:07 PM on 04/19/2010
That was "ended" in the 1960's. So why start a new discrimination to replace an old one. If it was wrong to discriminate on race then (and it was) it should be wrong today.

Two wrongs do not make a right.
03:07 PM on 04/19/2010
Very simplistic view.

Blacks are minorities in this country, which means that there are real possibilities that issues that are more pressing in minority communities may get completely overlooked, especially if they are not issues that plague those in the majority...so to write them off as "racism" is to completely miss the significance, either willfully or not.

And plenty of people are given advantages in life. If you were born to a middle-class, or wealthy family, guess what? You have opportunities that a poor kid will probably not have due to no fault of his/her own. What's wrong with saying, 'hey, we should do something to even the field for poor kids'??

Further, there are PLENTY of groups who advocate on their own behalf...religious groups lobby...unions lobby...corporations lobby...gun rights advocates lobby...hispanics lobby...women lobby...why can't blacks?
05:16 PM on 04/19/2010
What is wrong with saying "hey, we should do something to even the field for poor kids" is that it is being done at the expense of deserving and better qualified other kids. For every time a less qualified minority student is "promoted" a more deserving student is unfairly discriminated against because he is not the right race. That is wrong if a white student is advanced over a black one just like it is wrong ig a black is advanced over a white.

Even Dr Martin Luther King expounded that when he said ""I have a dream that one day this nation will rise up and live out the true meaning of its creed: 'We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal.'"
"I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character."
01:07 PM on 04/19/2010
I think Mr Smiley is right to call the President out on addressing pressing issues in the African American Community.After all he received 97% of the African American vote with heavy Hispanic support also. So owes both blocks of voters considerable redress of their issues in their respected communities.
Mr. Sharpton need to be told to get out of the way and shut his mouth trying to protect The President from the reality of Political promise keeping.The Congressional Black Caucus and the Congressional Hispanic Caucus need to have a retreat together to discuss achieving their goals together, and not let Mr Obama's people nor Mr Sharpton's people in on the discussion until they having come to some agreement as to how they would get some of their peoples needs taking care of in their respected communities.I would even invite the Asian Leadership to join in on the discusses . These are formidable Voting Blocks that the President knows put him in office.He's needs to deal with the social and political reality of their concerns right now not in some distance future.Not to throw cold water on what I just said but everybody in this Country is hurting except the Wall Street Bankers and Big Energy,but it should never be everybody for themselves, we need to work together to get back on our feet.
02:19 PM on 04/19/2010
Not being critical but just asking... Why do some black people (am I am black) insist on equating us as a group with every newly immigrating group of non-white people. We have deep roots in this country; more than 400 years worth of deep roots. That is longer than the majority of whites. This doesn't make sense to me.

Barack Obama is trying to show us how to see ourselves as Americans. I know it's tough because we have been marginalized for so long and made to feel like outsiders in our own home. Then along come the conservatives who, for the last 40 years, have made us the face of everything from welfare to crime, just to gin up anger and resentment. We are part of the bedrock of this nation. We are not a voting bloc and we don't need to join with Hispanics or Asians to achieve goals. We have more in common with poor whites, who have in the past few decades been just as neglected, than with any of the new immigrants. This President is working to level the playing field and it will benefit us all.
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02:52 PM on 04/19/2010
Well said. There is not enough reminding to be had of Black people's legacy in this nation.
06:19 PM on 04/19/2010
Great post. I agree. I never understood why certain political figures like act as if American blacks should be expected to share some kind of solidarity with newly immigrated hispanics.
06:21 PM on 04/19/2010
Why would you assume people are "voting blocks" just because they are of the same race. Maybe they just vote the way they do because it reflects their political beliefs.
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12:43 PM on 04/19/2010
The black community needs to start working with the middle class and the have nots to help lift this country out of that grip the wealthy has on our country, strength is in numbers not money,the wealthy can put all the money into elections but in the end if people vote they can't win.
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12:37 PM on 04/19/2010
i don't care what you ask obama for as long as you show up to vote for him in 2012.
11:19 AM on 04/19/2010
The President is the President of all Americans, so no there should not be a "black agenda."
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01:13 PM on 04/19/2010
Fanned. And you took the words from me. Well said
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11:17 AM on 04/19/2010
Hasn't the debate gone on for all of our days here? Have we not already studied time and again WEB v Booker T., along with all the other stances of this one and that? Let the debate go on, but some of it is stifling. All this intelligence, when it speaks of crime in the Black community dare not speak of the complicity of politicians and police in the crimes they speak of. The problem is that if they are going to pass the day in debate, let it be on the matters that actually have to do with something. One can count the unwed mothers, those living below designated poverty lines, the young ones "in the system", those involved in the underground economy, and whoever else there is to count, but what the community needs are solutions.

Until they can stop the money drain, until they can construct a system that keeps money in the community instead of other communities, until they can call out without fear those forces of any stripe that are complicit in the underdevelopment of the Black community, let them debate. Just get the hell out of the way of those who have actual work to do or something of relevance to manifest.
10:53 AM on 04/19/2010
A lot of the problems are a culture thing not a skin color issue. WHERE are these numbers taken from?

For example. Let's talk solely about blacks living in (shall we say) "racially integrated" neighborhoods. Do these folks have a significantly higher unemployment rate than their neighbors, or are we talking about predominantly black neighborhoods?

If the latter, is it really an epidemic exclusive among black people in particular? Are there not hispanic neighborhoods that mimic the state of these neighborhoods? Are there not white neighborhoods that mimic them? There are.

The thing that I never understood is why it appears that blacks seem to think this problem is theirs and theirs alone to bare. And it's not true.
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11:04 AM on 04/19/2010
Let me spin it for you. Black people don't have time to play on the banks of denial. It is not Black people who think that the problem is their own. Black people have always been told that the problem is their own and is shared with none other than some other people of color. It is white people who need to think that this is not present in their communities.
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Lola Adesioye
11:22 AM on 04/19/2010
nobody said it was... this isn't a zero sum game. It's not EITHER help black people OR help other people. If you're in a school and you had some kids not doing do well, would you be offended by the idea that they should get some special attention?
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01:21 PM on 04/19/2010
My kids gets special attention, because he has a disability. Meaning he gets help with what he CANNOT do for himself. But that teacher would do the exact same for another student.

I don't want a president who has an agenda to benefit any one group, and neither should anyone.
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10:39 AM on 04/19/2010
What is a Black agenda?......other than educationing our people, finding them Jobs, and lowering the crime rate in our Black community. They are building more PRISON than COLLEGES, that in itself, should tell you what people mind set are. We need to stop, making pro athletes and singer our role models. Role modeling start at home with your mother and father, if not and mother and father, then with your mother, in some case your grandmother and grandfather or just big mom. Because they our the ones who cast the giant steps in our life, and today we're standing on their shoulders looking toward the future..

this legacy of Ignorants has to stop.
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10:24 AM on 04/19/2010
NO. Not unless it is driven by the people it is designed to assist and benefit.

THE AGE OF PATERNALISM IS OVER... I am TIRED of witnessing political Hucksters come in the name of people who can't even get their attention.

The current generation will pass into history, which should and will be kind to those who were sincere and made a real difference.

"NOT IN MY NAME" without my consent.
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10:18 AM on 04/19/2010
Only the black community can solve the problems of the black community.

Impediments to the success have long since been thrown on the ash heap of history. Bull Conner is dead, and so are his dogs. Racial discrimination is now illegal except in cases where it favors Blacks and Latinos. Inner city public schools spend 11-13k per student per year, so there is plenty of money for education.

I could go on, but I think my point is made.
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10:29 AM on 04/19/2010
Racism is but one component of the structure of the white supremacist paradigm within which we still live and function.

The "post-racial society" is wishful thinking amongst liberal whites who want to pretend that the system of white skin privilege has disappeared.

unless you can demonstrate to me how and when the paradigm and structure of white supremacy has been dismantled and or replaced with a system that is working for the most of us, please wake up or come out of denial.

Peaceful Journeys!
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11:08 AM on 04/19/2010
ITA, I'm trying to explain this to them, but they really don't see the "privilege" they have. They only see how it's not fair to THEM for others to get help. Everything is relative, but many of these people haven't been on the other side to see what that could be about. But even Chris Rock said with all his wealth no whites would want to be him permanently.
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12:03 PM on 04/19/2010
"White supremacist paradigm?" Give me a break!

I think that one would have to look back at least 40 years to find any area of the country that was governed by white supremacists.
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03:12 PM on 04/19/2010
You are saying here, that racial discrimination is legal in some cases in the United States of America. How silly. It is against the law of the land. You get that? If you are aware of such practices, it is your duty as a citizen to call the Feds and let 'em know that hanky panky is going on.
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10:07 AM on 04/19/2010
I never understood the either/or mentality. That the President of the United States can't do something to specifically address the concerns of one group of American and still be the President of All Americans. Serioulsy... by advocating for gay people to be able to have hospitial visitation rights... does that mean he's only the President of Gay America? No. So why do Black people always shoot themselves in the foot (and if truth be told... Democrats as a whole) by thinking that if he does something specifically for Black America (or the liberal agenda) that it makes him ONLY the President of Black America (or liberals).

Different groups sometimes need different things. We don't live in a one-size fits all country and not all of our problems can or will be solved w/ a one size fits all approach. A President (regardless of race) can and SHOULD do things that may be specific to a particular community or subset of America ESPECIALLY if in doing so it helps the country as a whole.
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10:57 AM on 04/19/2010
The one part of the equation that is never discussed is the part where you talk about all that has been done to Black people. All the laws and customs designed specifically to keep us out of the mainstream. There is always the suggestion that something is done for Black people when in fact the history of this nation dictates otherwise.
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08:36 AM on 04/19/2010
Perhaps, Lola, this is neither the time nor the place for "a 'black' agenda."

We need unity right now, not division.

And if there be any example today of just how far this nation HAS come, at least in certain ways, consider this: an African-American man is sitting in the White House today, having earned and won the position ... as any American person, regardless of race or gender, should as a matter of course expect to be able to do.

I am not, myself, an African, but I voted for a person of African heritage -- not because of that heritage, and not in spite of it.

We need unity right now, not division. Virtually every ethnic group within this vast melting-pot shares the same (valid) ethnic-oriented concerns that you do. I'm not saying that your points are not valid: I'm saying that they are by no means peculiar to Americans of African descent -- and, therefore, that they should be properly treated as an "American" concern.

We are a melting pot. Always have been. Any source of division among ourselves is potentially quite harmful to us, especially now as so many people seek to divide us against ourselves for their own selfish gain.
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11:15 AM on 04/19/2010
What I don't understand is why people think that trying to create equality for black people has to be at the expense of white people. How is it divisive to uplift sections of American society that are not doing well. If I said we should have a poverty agenda would you say that's divisive? No, you'd say that uplifting poor people makes America as a whole more prosperous. If I said a women's agenda would you say that's divisive? No, you'd say that having women doing well makes the entire country function better. So what's the difference? There are very real issues that need addressing. You can keep your head in the sand and talk about a melting pot if you like. I'm interested in the 16% of the people who are unemployed.
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02:38 PM on 04/20/2010
They could be. If the poverty agenda lowered welfare of the middle class, it could certainly be divisive. And a women's agenda could be seen as decisive if it affected men negatively.
08:34 AM on 04/19/2010
Lola I think YOU should remind Tavis that the President is under siege by the RACIST tea baggers because they believe that HE is doing TOO much for minorities and NOT for them.

Something doesn't compute there.There is a major disconnect between the tea baggers and the likes of Tavis

Tavis has ALWAYS been envious of President Obama.I find it surprising that he has not gone on Fox news to bash him even more.

I don't remember Tavis bashing Bush for doing absolutely NOTHING for minorities and quite frankly Bush didn't do chit for nobody; just for his fellow republicans and those involved in the arms sales and oil business
11:16 AM on 04/19/2010
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