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Why the Pundits are Wrong About the Debate

Posted: 10/04/2012 10:22 am

Today you will not be able to swing a dead cat without hitting laments about Obama's awful performance in last night's presidential debate and assessments that Romney is back in the race.

Why didn't Obama come out swinging? Why was he so dull? Where was his energy? It's a game-changer! Romney could take the White House! OMG!!!

Yawn.

Last night I placed a five-dollar bill into a bowl at the start of the debate, clipped to a prediction that Romney would be declared the winner. Not especially because I think that Romney is a better debater, or that I feared Obama would make some horrible gaffe - but because that's how The Script has to go in these cases.

Obama did what anybody paying close attention would have known he would do. He played it safe. And he stuck to a rather dull rhetorical style because - he has a rather dull rhetorical style. Also because that's what you do when you're the frontrunner. You don't say or do anything wild and crazy. You let your opponent jump up and down and make excitable noises. Which is precisely what Romney did. Some have read Romney's stance as aggressive, others as pushy, but there's one word that you're unlikely to hear: "presidential." Makes for good theatrics. But it won't win you the White House.

So why did the President keep on the gloves? Obama did not jump on Romney's 47%-of-Americans-are-Losers comment because his campaign had already done a handy job with that, and there was no need to drive home the point and appear undignified. He could have pummeled Romney on various economic policy points, and he did this once or twice, such as his questions about the details of Romney's tax plan. But mostly he just looked bored. That can be read as, "Jeez, look at what I have to put up with!" That's 100% Obama. And yet frantic media accounts suggest that pundits expected to see a gladiator emerge from his staid persona.

In a race that appears to have a frontrunner, media types have an incentive to tighten things up, and this, of course, whips up public opinion. But it won't amount to a hill of beans in the long run. I predict that the needle will wobble slightly, no more (Early poll show Romney up a measly point). The real loser of last night's debate was the American public, which was not properly informed and frequently lied to.

Obama may well be seen to lose every single debate. But it will not matter to the outcome. Slow and steady does not make good TV viewing of an evening, but it wins the race.

Remember the Tortoise.

 
 
 

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08:25 PM on 10/08/2012
I'm also uncomfortable with the idea that any debate can make or break the final result. At best, this initial debate might provide an opening for Governor Romney, but his campaign thus far has not shown any great propensity for either finding or exploiting openings. For me, as a Conservative, I was relieved that Romney was at least competent (one always fears a disaster), but the biggest takeaway concerned President Obama. In the last few years, I've encountered a number go people, supposedly on my side of the political divide, who thought of the President as being virtually invincible. But the President was revealed as being quite average, at best, when not being propped up by both his Teleprompter and his slobbering press. This man can be beaten. I'm still not convinced Romney can climb that mountain, but it's at least mildly reassuring that the so-called Messiah has, like the rest of us, ordinary feet of clay.
08:37 PM on 10/06/2012
I agree with the tortoise analogy. I was worried about the pundits, especially Chris Matthews, who seemed quite overwrought. Calm down people...
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02:44 PM on 10/06/2012
Many of the conservative pundits are in that "whistling past the grave yard", mode.
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melissak59
Proud democrat
05:18 PM on 10/05/2012
i sure hope the relaxed stategy works and that the polls don't change anything very much. i have faith in pbo, but i am worried and concerned right about now. can't wait until the beginning of next week, when we know if the polls changed at all in willard's favor (hopefully not!).
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badgerwoman
We'll always have Paris
10:39 AM on 10/05/2012
Yes! I think it was Stephen Colbert who said Romney looked like he'd just tried caffeine for the very first time. If his campaign wants to declare victory over one of the lamest, most boring presidential campaign event so far this year, they're welcome to it. And I hope Chris Matthews can hyper down now.
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Alex Damiani
10:22 AM on 10/05/2012
Agree 100% President Obama was disgusted by Mitt lies that his strategy became one of let this guy talk all he wants and I will come back to confront all the lies with real numbers and I think it will work at the end.
02:16 AM on 10/06/2012
Disgusted? Or maybe embarrassed that he cannot defend his record! And which lies are you referring to? And normally in a debate you come PREPARED with your own facts and numbers and have no hesitation to defend yourself with these basic facts. That's why it is a DEBATE. Unless of course you can't because the real facts would work against you. Speaking of lies, what of the $5 tril tax cut plan that Obama keeps attacking Romney about? That's been proven to be yet another Obama falsehood. But I'm sure it was just the "altitude" that made him say it...repeatedly.
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Wild Clover
Wife, Mother and Proud Liberal
12:06 AM on 10/07/2012
Every reputable analysis of the tax cut -even just use your basic math and do it yourself- says that Romney's plan to cut across the board 20% costs 4.8 trillion. Add the cuts in the corporate rate, capital gains to zero, and no more estate tax, and it is far more than 5 trillion. All the deductions and exemptions -all of them- will pay for around 50% of this (IIRC- I'm not googling it for you- Mitt said we keep the mortgage exemption and charitable deduction.). The "studies" that prove his plan is revenue neutral? 2 of them are op-eds, not studies, written by his campaign aides. Mitt lied. Repeatedly. 27 in 38 minutes. Obama's score? One half truth.
Arithmetic. It isn't just for liberals. Of course, maybe Romney should have attacked the Count, instead of Big Bird, since it is in his interest for y'all to not be able to use numbers.
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Juiceman1982
Don't hate me because I'm right
10:15 AM on 10/05/2012
Some have read Romney's stance as aggressive, others as pushy, but there's one word that you're unlikely to hear: "presidential."

Author must not have watched MSNBC after the debate. Chris Mathews, Howard Fineman, Rachel Maddow - those noted conservatives - all agreed that Romney was respectful and presidential.
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Wild Clover
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12:12 AM on 10/07/2012
I watched the post debate coverage-twice in fact. I don't recall any of them sing the word "presidential". Maybe I missed it. Respectful? It is hard to sort out for me, considering how disrespectful he was toward the moderator. I can't recall what the topic was, but he pretty much called Obama a liar at one point, with his comparison to his boys, and being told the same untruth multiple times in hopes he'd come to believe it, which I found condescending, disrespectful, and the height of chutzpah after he did the same exact thing on his tax cut. That was downright disrespectful.
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Juiceman1982
Don't hate me because I'm right
10:57 AM on 10/08/2012
I just told you above you missed it. I saw the post-debate coverage on MSNBC. If you did not, why try to disprove my statement? I saw Mathews, Maddow, Fineman, et. al and they all agreed Romney was respectful and presidential. Why try to argue just to argue? The author made a statement, I refuted it with facts, and then you try to refute it with your opinion on something you didn't see but I did? Doesn't make sense.
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10:06 AM on 10/05/2012
I think the script goes further than that. I think the plan all along was to let Romney "win", then go in for the kill in #2. He has been too tight to the script the whole time, reigned Biden in (somewhat), kept on message - his spin doctors wrote this script as soon as Romney clinched the nomination in the spring. What a joke this whole thing is.
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HamletsMill
All Myth is Astronomy
09:55 AM on 10/05/2012
"The real loser of last night's debate was the American public, which was NOT PROPERLY INFORMED and frequently LIED to. "

BINGO.

There are only three core issues for the remainder of the lifetimes of every person posting on HP today and NONE of them were addressed.

Mr Candidate:

1. What is your position on HR-2990 (the N.E.ED. Act) to change how the Treasury and Federal Reserve System of the United States work by recalling all interest bearing green seal money and reissuing interest free red seal money?

HR-2990 - "N.E.E.D. Act"
http://www.monetary.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/HR-2990.pdf

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0CaYuss28HQ

2. What is your EXACT PLAN to prevent a nuclear weapon from PAKISTAN as a FAILED STATE from falling into the hands of angry Islamic fundamentalists (created by U.S. drone strikes) being used to level New York City killing 4 million Americans?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mn-1LuLhrw

3. What is you plan to defuse Israel as the TRIP WIRE of the NUCLEAR Age to prevent World War III which will last one day and kill millions of human beings because the peoples of the Middle East cannot solve one single problem generation after generation until they take the entire world into Tribal God (Tm) Hell with them.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s4VlruVG81w

These 3 questions will NEVER be asked by the corporate M$M and so mind bending catastrophe is coming.
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Wild Clover
Wife, Mother and Proud Liberal
12:14 AM on 10/07/2012
Look up the weight of a "suitcase nuke", look up the delivery system you would need to deliver one from Pakistan to New York, and tell me again how this is a burning priority?
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HamletsMill
All Myth is Astronomy
12:29 AM on 10/08/2012
Google Hardtack Phase II (shots Hamilton and Humboldt on 15 October and 29 October 1958) It is now 54 years later in technology. A steamer trunk size is the threat. Conex containers can transport and rented vans can carry that. As long as agents can get a Driver's License, it is the goal for a cell out there. There is no question about it.
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niumarmion
a temporary being
09:49 AM on 10/05/2012
Of course the puppetmasters wrote a good script. One candidate represents the common man, and the other candidate represents the billionaires, and it looks like the voters have a choice. However, the puppetmasters pull the strings of both parties, and it is just a dog and pony show.
09:19 AM on 10/05/2012
Sports fans project the very same attitude as if they were actually playing in the game.

and, they're not.
08:41 AM on 10/05/2012
Good article. John Kerry won all three of the debates against Dubya, and it did not help him win the election. The silver lining for Obama is the bar has been lowered for his performance during the next two debates. Obama should take notes about debating from Biden too.
kellygreen
"Ideology is the Science of Idiots" John Adams
08:08 AM on 10/05/2012
Agreed.

Obama carried himself in the same way he did during the 2008 debates with McCain.

Yet four years ago it was "calm" and "no drama" and "Presidential".

Yet this tim around it's "flat" and "bored".

What GIVES....other than trying to keep the race close so that its more interesting to report on.
melissak59
Proud democrat
05:26 PM on 10/05/2012
very good point!
07:34 AM on 10/05/2012
It is like comparing Fox News to CSPAN. One is full of flash but has no substance. The other is a bit boring but provides good information.