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Manuel Pastor

Manuel Pastor

Posted: December 3, 2010 03:05 PM

California Republicans are rightly worried about their future in the state. Even as the GOP tapped into the national Tea Party zeitgeist and achieved a stunning victory in mid-term elections, the party received a shellacking in California, one delivered, in large part, by a growing Latino electorate concerned about the harsh attitudes on immigration offered up and down the Republican ticket.

Seldom in politics do you get a chance for a quick redo -- but one is coming. Sometime in the lame duck session of Congress, the House and Senate are slated to take a vote on the Dream Act, legislation that would allow young people who entered the country illegally a path to citizenship.

To be eligible for the Dream Act, one would have to have arrived before the age of 16 and have finished high school and completed some college or military service. Opponents fret that this will encourage more illegal immigration; proponents argue that these young people did not make the choice to come illegally and could contribute mightily to our American future.

But forget about the policy questions and think about the politics. The Dream Act -- unlike other aspects of immigration policy -- actually has widespread support amongst Californians. A November 2010 LA Times/USC College poll showed that 76 percent of Californians support granting citizenship to people who came to the country illegally as children and meet the Dream Act requirements. Latinos are the most enthusiastic -- but white voters are 75 percent in favor and even 68 percent of Republicans support such an approach, with nearly half of those interviewed strongly supportive.

This is not just a statewide mandate but a statewide interest. Over one-fourth of the young people likely to meet national Dream Act requirements are Californians -- and they include valedictorians, heads of student government, and others whose skills are needed by a state working to regain its economic footing.

Support from California Republicans is therefore low-cost and high-yield and reflective of their constituents. For example, David Dreier (R) of San Dimas (and the foothills of the San Gabriel Valley) is slated to continue as head of California's Republican Caucus -- and his district is thirty percent Latino and nineteen percent Asian Pacific. Yet his legislative focus has been entirely on border security and tougher enforcement -- and he has historically opposed Dream Act-style legislation.

This is a chance for California Republicans to represent their state and not just their party. It's also an opportunity for them to call the Democrats' bluff. Buried in the same LA Times/USC pool is another startling fact: about 68 percent of Latinos support a guest worker program, just about the same margin as white voters. Such a guest worker program has often been considered part of comprehensive immigration reform -- but resisted by Democrats in Congress. Passing the Dream Act now could open a broader and more balanced discussion of how best to move the needle on immigration reform.

Reflecting the people's will is what our representatives are supposed to do. They will have a chance to do just that soon. The dreams of more than half a million young Californians -- and the long-term future of the Republican Party -- may hang in the balance.

 
 
 
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05:50 PM on 12/07/2010
Mexico deports illegal immigrants from Central America and elsewhere. Illegals in Mexico don't get free education , free housing, free medical care , free food , free medical care unlike illegals here .Cheap labor is not actually cheap when you consider the cost of the welfare payments to illegals who pop out children here (before they learn a word of English I might add)
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realitytrumpsbull
two 'alves of coconut!
07:10 AM on 12/05/2010
It's also a chance for the 38 million people that call CA their home to start taking issue with illegal immigration and the sanctuary city business, which is a situation where in some cases to be effective about it they might have to start staging recall elections to remove city officials for aiding, abetting, and just plain gross negligence. CA's unemployment rate is one of the highest in the country, and you're not going to improve it by rolling in another million people or whatever's waiting in the wings behind the DREAM business. 

Mexico, our neighbor to the south, would very much like to move in, en masse. And, for years they have tried to manipulate the US political system to their collective advantage. Will they succeed, next year? Or, or, will they finally decide it's time to stop trying to live off the United States and instead start doing more for themselves?  Familiarity breeds contempt, and over the years, our relations with Mexico have degraded, as a result. I say 'no mas' to illegal immigration, and 'please take it back to your country' to the rest of the people trying to manipulate the American public. Americans have problems, Mexicans have problems, the people living in the countries are best suited to solving them. Jumping the border is illegal. So is all the dope pushing. Let's put a stop to all of it, and have a real border that both countries can respect.  So, wake up from the DREAM, and do what's right, here.
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Viper1st
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09:18 PM on 12/04/2010
Has it been mentioned

The DREAM Act will cost the U.S. Taxpayers $6.2 billion each & every year it's enacted

Expecting the U.S. Taxpayers to support granting amnesty "gift" to illegals is one thing

And then expecting the U.S. Taxpayer to pick up the tab ~ is considered double dipping
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hrpmap
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09:03 PM on 12/04/2010
California! The most disfunctional state in the Union is no example for anyong to emmulate. The are  the firdt to go to he// and so why would anyone care what their opinion is. They'll change their tune as soon as the financial default happens and it's just around the corner.
08:49 PM on 12/04/2010
Plus eligibility would be limited to Dreamers without a criminal record, in contrast to false claims by opponents of the legislature....
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09:04 PM on 12/04/2010
A known recorded criminal record, many will slip through.
08:21 AM on 12/13/2010
There is no penalty for lying on the application. The liar will still get the work permit.
05:16 PM on 12/04/2010
According to the polls and surveys Dr. Pastor cites, Californians are clear on their support of these young "dreamers" who are asking nothing more than to continue to live here as Americans as they have for most of their lives. I support Dr. Pastor's statement that this is not only a mandate, but a statewide interest to allow these young people to straighten out their immigration status and get on with their lives. I'll be honest, I'm a baby-boomer, and I know who I'm going to be relying on in about 20 years. It all comes around. Bring the dreamers on!
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Viper1st
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11:40 PM on 12/06/2010
Then ~

I assert, Dr. Pastor can fund it
04:09 PM on 12/04/2010
We don't know what it feels like until we are in that situation. And lest be realistic...No "North Americans" are going to work cleaning toilets or being maids for $8.00 dollars an hour would you? All americans (North, Central, South Americans) should be together and help each other, because we all are brothers and sisters because we are children of the same God, we make mistakes and we hurt each other all the time, we sin all the time, and just because we are breaking God's laws he will have to destroy us? "NO" he loves us and he wants the best for us, lets stop judging people, and lets help each other. Nobody is perfect. Let he who is without sin cast the first stone. (2)
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09:07 PM on 12/04/2010
You forgot to mention or maybe just skipped over the fact that construction, building trades, mechanics, manufacturing, all have illegal aliens on the jobs that Americans and legal immigrants would love to have.
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Rightlygay
Already EQUAL
12:23 PM on 12/05/2010
OK.......lets limit their pay to $8/hr then.....if noone here will work for that......which I dont believe.....
04:08 PM on 12/04/2010
Almost everybody in here are judging, and im pretty sure that most of you would go to any country and live illegally if you had to, just to give your family a better future. "In exchange for THEIR citizenship, their parents who brought them here illegally, must agree to deportation"?? (do you have kids?). What if they were your parents? Oh i believe almost everybody forgot this: who came to the usa and stole the country from the native indians? or you forgot Americans aren't white skin? Americans are brown skin ladies and gentlemen don't forget that! Where did your family came from? ireland? scotland? UK? aren't we doing the same thing being in Irak? think about it, we all are human beings and we all own the world..................
07:35 PM on 12/04/2010
No, we don't own this world, but we do control our borders and our nation.
05:42 PM on 12/07/2010
My ancestors did not collect welfare or drop out of high school get pregant and live off the taxpayers.
02:26 PM on 12/04/2010
How many illegals have poured into the US over just the past month?
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Michael Valentine
Retired SEIU Member
12:28 PM on 12/04/2010
Let the Republicans concede the hispanic vote, it works for the American people.
12:24 PM on 12/04/2010
The U.S. depends on labor from Mexico. Mexico has excess labor. Just as in Europe and Japan, labor will flow from places with no jobs to places with jobs. Mexico's economic fate and ours are intertwined. We have dishonestly created the situation in which we use Mexican labor but call them "illegals". When times are tough, Mexican "illegals" become scapegoats, just as my Irish ancestors did in the 1800s. I'm an old white guy who sees Mexican immigration as the current adjustment to an age old problem of labor imbalance between neighboring countries. We need to get honest and devise policies so our mutual needs can be met--humanely. Full disclosure: my long life in California has been vastly enriched by the many Hispanics I've had as coworkers, friends, and neighbors.
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dtairtime
It is what it is
01:26 PM on 12/04/2010
Tell that to the 30 or so million unemployed citizens and legal immigrants we have.

We don't "depend" on labor from Mexico, big business, the wealthy, special interests depend on it but WE certainly don't.

Every job category that had high levels of illegal labor has accordingly high levels of unemployment and wage stagnation.

What we need is an end to flooding the market with labor so we can force employers to pay us a fair wage.
05:19 PM on 12/04/2010
So labor flows from places with no jobs to places with jobs....what about the millions of unemployed Americans? If we had excess work we would have little unemployment, not 9+%
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scrogginsfarms
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10:18 AM on 12/04/2010
yes by all means lets let the goths in to decide our future. i am sure they will improve our great roman republic much like they have done in their home countries. they will be a welcomed asset providing much unskilled laborers, to allow our citizens more time to consult with the unemployment department. these poor immigrants will provide us with a plethora of illiterate individuals for us to educate. these goths are not opposed to using our substandard healthcare industry, trusting our emergency medical resources for a wide range of ailments from tuberculosis to birthing, with 70% of all births at taxpayer supported hospitals being born to non documented immigrants. i feel so proud to finally bring them out of the shadows of forgery and identity theft, so that they can continue to be contributing factor to our efforts to improve our credit rating by expanding our need to finance the increased use of our entitlement system. i firmly believe that these new additions to our society will bring a new culture to our already fractured and partisan discourse, and we will finally be able to elevate our populace to the level of the germanic tribes from where they came.
long live the roman republic!

and just a question for you not from the border area. have you ever been to nuevo laredo? welcome to third world america.
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pecosdog
this sht writes itself
12:15 AM on 12/04/2010
I hope this goes through because then all these new citizens will likely vote democrat and all these bigoted trolls here on this page will be sad.
01:12 AM on 12/04/2010
So you're suggesting that California Republicans should vote for the Dream Act so that the new citizens will vote Democrat? Does not compute....
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scrogginsfarms
proud daughter of the american revolution
09:39 AM on 12/04/2010
have you ever considered that these illegals, one of which lives next door to me, usually commit identity theft in their pursuit of work, a crime that would land you in a long prison sentence. often they also use forged drivers licensing, and insurance documents.
10:14 AM on 12/04/2010
Supposition without basis. You're really shootin' blanks today, Scroggs.
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Michael Valentine
Retired SEIU Member
12:26 PM on 12/04/2010
Well report them then or are you just blowing your whistle?
11:41 PM on 12/03/2010
Why should lawbreakers be given rights of citizens? Illegal aliens should be removed from California as quickly as possible.
08:32 AM on 12/04/2010
First: minor children are not responsible for the acts of their parents.

Second: entry without authorization is an administrative infraction, not a crime. To call them "lawbreaker" is way overblown.

"Illegal aliens should be removed from California as quickly as possible."

The scourge of xenophobic bigotry should be immediately removed from society, too... but both are clearly impossible.

Since removal is impossible, other approaches which are actually possible must instead be considered.

Productive, law-abiding, tax-paying citizens are preferable to a non-productive, excluded, and resentful underclass.

Yes, it is sad for your simplistic, self-serving myopia that more brown people will become equal citizens, but bigotry is a luxury that we just can't afford.
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Ragnar Danneskjold
Defender of Liberty
08:55 AM on 12/04/2010
When a child sees he is punished because his parents broke the law, then he will be less likely to be the apple that doesn't fall far from the lawbreaking tree. Hard lessons must be learned the hard way.
12:48 AM on 12/05/2010
"First: minor children are not responsibl­e for the acts of their parents."

Neither are we responsible for their parents actions.

"Second: entry without authorizat­ion is an administra­tive infraction­, not a crime. To call them "lawbreake­r" is way overblown.'

Working here illegally, driving illegally and document fraud certainly are crimes. Have you seen what's happening in Puerto Rico with their birth certificate situation? Yeah, we need more of that.

"The scourge of xenophobic bigotry should be immediatel­y removed from society, too... but both are clearly impossible­."

Someone suggests simple deportation after breaking our law instead of a much harsher punishment and that's xenophobic? Explain that to me..

"Since removal is impossible­, other approaches which are actually possible must instead be considered­."

Self deporting is very possible and it's an approach that works very well.

"Productive­, law-abidin­g, tax-paying citizens are preferable to a non-produc­tive, excluded, and resentful underclass­."

Yes but since they're our fellow citizens on the far left we're stuck with them, unfortunately.

"Yes, it is sad for your simplistic­, self-servi­ng myopia that more brown people will become equal citizens, but bigotry is a luxury that we just can't afford."

You seem to affording it quite well.
08:17 PM on 12/03/2010
I can't think of one good reason to give these illegal aliens amnesty. Where will it end? Once all 12-20 million are made legal? I say ENFORCE the law and get rid of all these illegal aliens. When we get rid of all the illegal aliens, we will get rid of all the problems that go with them. THAT IS A FACT!

NO AMNESTY! NO AMNESTY! NO AMNESTY! Do I have to say it again? OK. NO AMNESTY!
08:46 AM on 12/04/2010
One Good Reason: because productive­, law-abidin­g, tax-paying citizens are preferable to a non-produc­tive, excluded, and resentful underclass­.

Minor children are not responsible for the acts of their parents. They are here, and have largely been raised from a young age as Americans.

There is no possibility of "getting rid" of such people... your enraged, self-serving bigotry notwithstanding.

You bluster about "problems" and "facts," but remain blissfully unaware that said "problems" exist only in your own fevered imagination, for the actual fact is the long-term net contribution of such people to the country always greatly outweighs any short-term costs... which are largely baseless trumped up nonsense anyway.
01:47 PM on 12/04/2010
If a childs parent is a drug dealing criminal should that parent not be punished, because it would brek up a family? Because the child would pay for the sins of their parents? Their parents made a choice, and as unfortunate as it is for the children, laws are laws and we shouldn't make special laws for children unlucky to have criminal parents.
12:52 AM on 12/05/2010
"You bluster about "problems" and "facts," but remain blissfully unaware that said "problems" exist only in your own fevered imaginatio­n, for the actual fact is the long-term net contributi­on of such people to the country always greatly outweighs any short-term costs... which are largely baseless trumped up nonsense anyway. "

You've not proven a single thing you've said. Not one.
You talk quite a bit but your arguments have no facts.
Care to share some with the ignorant masses?