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Huffington Post Women: Why We Need a Women's Page

Posted: 06/13/2012 9:38 am

When HuffPost Women launched a year ago today, I meant to have a blog post up about our vision for the site and why in that moment The Huffington Post needed a women's section.

That never happened, mainly because I'd been up for 24 hours trying to bring the site into being. As it turns out, this was probably for the best.

I had planned to peg our manifesto -- which I thought was a prerequisite for launching a site -- to a debate then preoccupying the female blogosphere. Jane Pratt, creator of the beloved print magazines Sassy and Jane, had just started XOJane.com, a site targeting women ages 12 to 48 whose mission statement described it as a place "where women go when they are being selfish, and where their selfishness is applauded." Around the same time, the adorkable triumvirate of Zooey Deschanel, Molly McAleer and Sophia Rossi launched Hello Giggles, which professed to be "the ultimate entertainment destination for smart, independent and creative females" and featured content under the headings "He Haw," "BFFs" and "Cuteness." There were -- and are -- lots of bunnies.

Some female media critics were not happy about these sites. The Daily Beast's Tricia Romano wrote of both, "If two new women's websites are to be believed, women want to read about boys, cute animals, their periods, and they want to read it in a Valley Girl accent." Anna Holmes, founder of Jezebel, suggested to Romano that the new sites "talked down" to women.

The "seemingly permanent state of girlishness" Romano wrote, was one "any professional woman over the age of 30 should cringe at."

The critics thereby earned their own critics, who cringed at the attacks for three main reasons, which blogger Gynomite articulated so beautifully:

1. Why the negativity? "It's so easy to attack people for trying to be positive. And that's all these sites are trying to do- be not snarky and not self-hatey."

2. The critiques reinforced one of the most pervasive myths about women, that they are always out to undermine one another. Would men do the same? Why not just support each other? Gynomite noted, "I don't ever see intelligent bloggermen bashing Men's Health -- they just see it as one more color in the spectrum that is manhood."

3. No one acts like an adult all the time. "We want what the Beta Males have -- the ability to be dudes and men at the same time," Gynomite wrote.

Looking back, I think it's probably good that I was too sleep-deprived to comment. Not having run a women's site before -- I'd only worked at one -- I wasn't apprised of all the challenges involved.

If I and the rest of the HuffPost Women gang have learned anything in the past year, it's what a profoundly tricky project a women's section is. There are pretty good arguments against having women's sites at all -- are we creating a separate-but-equal situation for ourselves?

Here's our answer: We have a women's section because we really like identifying as female. Because we like its particular concerns. Because we like other women. Because while being a woman/girl is at times, well, a bitch, it's also enormously rich and endlessly interesting.

Our particular approach to demonstrating that richness is two-fold:

1. We curate. Over the last ten years sites like Jezebel, TheGloss, XOJane, Hello Giggles, The Mary Sue, The Frisky, Forbes Women, Betty Confidential, The Daily Muse and many more have created thriving forums for feverishly smart women to discuss money, politics, work, media, feminism, health, technology, body image, nail art, sex, aging, heartbreak, books, street harassment and rompers. The Huffington Post gets criticized for its commitment to aggregation, but I won't apologize for pointing readers to the best content from women around the web.

2. We feature at least one essay every day from a woman, told in her own words, about her own life. In a world where it can seem like there are approximately three acceptable ways to be female (virgin, sexpot, wife), we think having women tell their own stories is the only way to accurately represent the wide diversity of female experience. The essays aren't always perfect, and we like it that way.

A year in, our central operating philosophy can be summed up in a question Agapi Stassinopoulos posed in her book "Unbinding the Heart": "How would you live your life ... if you knew your story mattered?"

Because it does matter. Send it to us. And thank you, thank you for reading.

 

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Edna Crabapple
Who watches the watchers?
02:28 PM on 06/16/2012
While I think the women's section is a good idea- I find the coverage of women's issues on this page is a little lopsided.
When I look at the topics I see little of relevance to me. It's better sex, better parenting, babies, fashion, beauty, horoscopes, etc... to the point where it's like opening an issue of Cosmo.
These topics have their place, but women are facing much more important issues right now and I find your coverage of them somewhat lacking.
This section does not seem very diversified to me.
To be honest, I seldom read this section because it's just too girly and fluffy for my tastes.
To each her own, I guess...
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JackieSmith890
06:28 PM on 06/17/2012
if you don't read it, then why are you leaving comments?
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Edna Crabapple
Who watches the watchers?
11:43 AM on 06/18/2012
Because I stop by once in a while to see if there is anything of substance on the page.
Usually, there is not.
But there are always critics of anyone whose opinion differs from theirs, and who has the audacity to voice that opinion...
10:04 PM on 06/15/2012
I'm just here for the cupcakes.
06:36 PM on 06/15/2012
Hmm a women's page, then all these "Voices" page, but absent is a "man/male" page. Tells you a bit about the attitudes at HP about men. Maybe it is wider spread then just HP, just shove those males aside. Not about equality, more like skip that, let's dominate.
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04:23 AM on 06/16/2012
You wrote, "Not about equality, more like skip that, let's dominate".

An accurate summary of feminism.
04:20 PM on 06/18/2012
Oh, so you don't see the rest of Huffington Post as being made for men? Just like every other 'default' everywhere? How great for you.
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MissTake1989
Equal means equal, hypocrites.
05:19 PM on 06/15/2012
I personally don't care, because I understand that a Men's section on this site would be more misandrist than the Women's section, but...

Just curious...wouldn't all of the argument you made about this site apply to a Men's section as well?
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syds180turn
Independent and Proud of It!
10:55 AM on 06/15/2012
The major problem I have with the Women's section of Huffington Post is the fact that it seems to just cover the same ground. Marriage...why aren't you married, what to do to stay married. Babies, babies, babies. What about women who don't want to get married or have babies? What about women who are married but have decided not to have children. What about women who decided to have children without marriage? What about powerful women running their own businesses and what advice they can give aspiring entrepreneurs. Hillary Clinton is one of the most powerful women in the world but yet she is relegated to...why is she wearing her hair in a scrunchie? Why doesn't she have on make-up? There are female CEO's but never get a mention. Women who are scholars, physicists, judges, engineers...basically all sorts of interesting and inspiring women are out there. But it always comes back to men...how to snag them, how to marry them, how to keep them sexually satisfied, how to be sexy, how to dress sexy...it always comes down to mind-numbing crap that is discouraging to women who honestly want to read about something interesting. Don't get me wrong, fluff is good in small does, but HP women seems to be one-dimensional and diversity is a joke.
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04:25 AM on 06/16/2012
You wrote, "Babies, babies, babies".

And what do you have against babies?
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Edna Crabapple
Who watches the watchers?
02:17 PM on 06/16/2012
News flash- not every woman likes babies, and wants to read endless articles about them.
Some of us have opted for a child-free lifestyle and have zero interest in the subject of progeny and parenting, but we still have an interest in other issues affecting women.
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tonygumbrell
retired working stiff
01:26 AM on 06/15/2012
Until the nineteen seventies there was a women's page in the paper I read. I think it was called "Women", but then for some unfathomable reason 35 years ago, they changed its name to "Life and LIving" or "Living Life", or something like that. I never could figure that one out.
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NobleTry
More ground is in the middle than at either end.
10:08 PM on 06/14/2012
"The critiques reinforced one of the most pervasive myths about women, that they are always out to undermine one another. Would men do the same? Why not just support each other?"

Sadly, it's not a myth. This is why boys/men play team sports, and are better at forming other team-like entities, such as families, companies, states, countries, and civilizations.
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08:52 PM on 06/14/2012
I come to the HP women's, and Wedding page to make me feel better about myself. I like to get the women's perspective and I would have to say that these articles make me feel better that I'm single and don't have to deal with so much awful drama. Bravo HP. Single guy for life.
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Old3nglish
07:34 PM on 06/14/2012
Still waiting for the mens page.
Then the white voices page.

Dont bother with the whole "everything else is the white mens page lololololol"
What a joke.
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NobleTry
More ground is in the middle than at either end.
10:10 PM on 06/14/2012
Waiting for the Men's Page? Then you'll be waiting a very long time indeed, my friend. The fine editors at HuffPo and other left-leaning media outlets resent men.
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MissTake1989
Equal means equal, hypocrites.
05:18 PM on 06/15/2012
Why anyone thinks the "Men's" section here would be anything but Ken Solin and his ilk telling men to stop whining, I have no idea...
05:14 PM on 06/14/2012
I think websites for women are great, and I'm really thankful. Before these were created and became well known, I was visiting websites that were supposed to be popular but I never found all the content that great. Then I found out why. These websites were for a mostly male audience, although not specified explicitly. I think we need websites with a female point of view, sometimes i find the male opinions patronizing and "old fashioned". Not that it doesn't also happen on women's sites. It's really evident that men and women's websites are different when an article from a male mag, like Esquire, slips into one of those women's websites and then get flammed to death by comments. On the other hand, the piece is published in a well known male mag and the male audience accepts it without problem.
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Kristen Houghton
Author, Lifestyle Journalist, Humorist
04:45 PM on 06/14/2012
Many thanks Margaret. Well-said and well-done!
04:15 PM on 06/14/2012
Ive never seen a good argument against women's anything. When the default of everything is men, it is ok for women to have their own place to talk about issues that concern and affect them. Really, it is ok. Just as it is ok for there to be sites dedicated to issues of concern in the black community or latin community, etc.

Thanks for the explanation, but it is a shame that the conversations on the articles in the women's section constantly and consistently devolve into negativity due to the men who regularly post there.
06:41 PM on 06/15/2012
"When the default of everything is men" where have you been? Look at magazine rack and the majority are woman's magazines. Who buys the majority of mags?
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MissTake1989
Equal means equal, hypocrites.
03:06 AM on 06/16/2012
Shhh.

Don't pop her bubble. She feels safe inside seeing the sky as whatever color she needs to at that moment.
09:16 AM on 06/18/2012
I think by now, when you go to a place like Barnes and Noble, the magazine rack is fairly equal. Why you think that is what i am talking about is beyond me, but way to narrow down the issue to an insignificant area of concern.
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MissTake1989
Equal means equal, hypocrites.
03:08 AM on 06/16/2012
So, you accept that men ARE the default...?

Fair enough.

I would think that a person who claims to believe what you claim to believe would want everyone to be treated the same, but...ok....
09:16 AM on 06/18/2012
Why are you using the word accept? I understand the reality of a society structured by men would obviously default to men.
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sibyl9
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01:27 AM on 06/14/2012
Why can't "women's issues" just be in a lifestyle/parents/living section along with "men's issues"? The division is tiresome.
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03:04 PM on 06/14/2012
I am wating to see an article about men issues. It would be refreshing if it were not written from a woman's point of view. We have issues and women have no clue about men needs, desires, etc....
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sibyl9
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04:50 PM on 06/14/2012
Completely agree.
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NobleTry
More ground is in the middle than at either end.
10:03 PM on 06/14/2012
It's not tiresome when it serves the purpose of fueling fear and distrust and division.
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IndestructibleLioness
Determination that is incorruptible
01:21 AM on 06/14/2012
I agree. We need a Women's page. Latino Voices, Gay Voices, Black Voices and coming soon-Women's Voices.
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10:45 PM on 06/13/2012
This is why the Women's Page is regularly skipped - that and as "Friskysloth" writes - all the booby-peeks and sex and starlet stuff is splashed across the Front Page anyway. Really: "...feverishly smart women to discuss money, politics, work, media, feminism, health, technology, body image, nail art, sex, aging, heartbreak, books, street harassment and rompers...". This is your list? And it includes NAIL ART? How about women who inspire, who work under the "celebrity"? The Women for Women project is doing amazing work helping women in war zones to piece their lives together. (http://www.womenforwomen.org/about-women-for-women/we-support-women-survivors-globally.php ) Kira Salak is an adventurer who has written award winning articles about her travels (http://www.kirasalak.com/) Interesting women are in Journalism, in and out of war zones leading to stories around the world on Women ( http://www.womenundersiegeproject.org/) Then there is Kara Walker, among others ... Definitely NOT a nail artist (http://learn.walkerart.org/karawalker/Main/Biography).
I've spent 10 minutes looking on search engine pages for: women adventurers, Women for Women, women in Journalism, and Top contemporary women artists. The field is HUGE, and interesting, and worthwhile. HuffPo's Women's page has been so disappointing because it reads like a clone-cross of Teen Magazine and Cosmo, when it could be so refreshing. Lot of work though... Wonder if HuffPo will find it worth it. And BTW...I am sick of seeing photos of orgasmic arch-backed women and/or dirty feet under messy bed sheets for weeks on end. Geez...at least they could show good nail art.
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