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Class Warfare? Says Who?

Posted: 09/30/11 03:19 PM ET

Republicans feel they've seized a winning talking point by labeling as "class warfare" Obama's plan to ask the wealthiest to pay a bit more in taxes. Is that label sticking? And does it hurt?

First, growing income inequality is a fact, not a talking point. And Americans are feeling the disparity. This recent poll from the Pew Research Center/Washington Post shows Americans increasingly describe society as divided between "haves" and "have-nots."

Americans are also decreasingly likely to count themselves among the "haves." Majorities of Republicans and those earning over $75,000 a year call themselves "haves" (66% and 75%, respectively), while other demographic groups are more divided, or consider themselves "have-nots."

Second, politically, more feel Obama is interested in helping the "haves" and "have-nots" equally, while Republicans in Congress prioritize the haves. The Pew/Washington Post poll shows half, or nearly half of Democrats and independents agree Obama "treats both the same." The nice folks at Pew ran a few additional crosstabs for me, and found "haves" and "have-nots" agree Obama treats both groups the same (43%, 48%).

Attitudes toward Republicans in Congress are more politically divisive, as you can see in the chart below. Both self-professed "haves" and "have-nots" feel Republicans prioritize the haves, but the "have-nots" feel so more keenly (42%, 59%, respectively).

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Third, the phrase "class warfare" doesn't seem to resonate with non-Republicans. Poll Position recently asked whether "Obama's new tax plan amounts to class warfare" and found a plurality (42%) saying it's not (35% yes, 23% unsure). The poll found predictable breaks along GOP/Dem lines, although more Republicans say it's not class warfare (25%) than Democrats say it is (16%), with independents divided. With such a simple question, before an extended debate about Obama's jobs package, it's likely this mainly measures attitudes toward Obama himself, rather than toward any specific policy.

Fourth, the "Buffett Rule" and other policies to redistribute income are wildly popular, even with Republicans and investors. A recent PPP poll for DailyKos shows a full 73% support "ensuring people who make over a million dollars a year pay the same percentage of taxes or more...as those who make less...." No group opposes the so-called Buffett Rule; 66% of Republicans, 61% of conservatives and 52% of Tea Partiers are in favor. Even two-thirds of Bloomberg subscribers (including investors, analysts and traders worldwide) support the Buffett Rule.

This is consistent with what I've written before, showing policies asking the wealthy to pay more are far more popular than those that don't. In the wake of the debt-ceiling debate, this WSJ/NBC poll found the most "acceptable" policy for the Super-Committee is ending tax breaks for the wealthy (60% acceptable, 37% unacceptable). And a contemporaneous poll by Ipsos/Reuters found raising taxes on the wealthy one of the most popular ways to stimulate the economy.

Republicans are unlikely to get mileage attacking policies that ask the wealthy to pay their fair share, as even their own voters support more fairness. With its protracted use, the phrase "class warfare" might actually reinforce the perception that Republicans care more about the "haves." And how come it isn't called "class warfare" when Republicans want to end Medicare or Social Security as we know it, or curb unemployment or food stamp benefits?

 

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Republicans feel they've seized a winning talking point by labeling as "class warfare" Obama's plan to ask the wealthiest to pay a bit more in taxes. Is that label sticking? And does it hurt? First, ...
Republicans feel they've seized a winning talking point by labeling as "class warfare" Obama's plan to ask the wealthiest to pay a bit more in taxes. Is that label sticking? And does it hurt? First, ...
 
 
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scooter1
Bias is irrelevant to truth
12:00 PM on 10/17/2011
Im ok with waging calss warfare on the rich. They been doing it to us for decades.
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Dee Sexton
11:13 PM on 10/14/2011
I remember Ragen and his trickle down economic 35+ years ago. My taxes went up then and the rich got richer and It remains that way today The Republicans have no Idea of what it means to creat jobs. They keep talking about less taxes for small business.the only thing is the small buisness are going out of buisness and those that survive are being bought up by big corprations. The republicans are so out of touch with main street America they really beleive they can take control of the goverment. They have the mind set that with there rich doner's money they can fool the people with there phoney math and million dollar ads on TV, maybe they can but If people would just stop for moment and look at who the republican party really represent, The republican party would only get 1% of the American vote.
Ragin was a rich man's presidant and the republican party looks at him as if he was a god.
I'm not a collage educated man but I have 20/20 vision and I know a little about history
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jnw147
09:25 PM on 10/14/2011
When will people wake up and smell the coffee. Former NYC Mayor Ed Koch said it best when he said that the Republicans are willing to destroy the country just to destroy President Obama. What do you, so called, intelligent, rational, non-bigot Republicans say about that? I don't detest Republicans. I just detest "these" Republicans, And if anyone had a half a brain they should and would too!
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ohohyeah
11:54 AM on 10/17/2011
jnw -- Correct. Detest this one. Rep. Jason Chaffetz, R. of Utah.said "We weren't kidding around. We would take it down." He meant take down the economy. Well, they did lose our Triple-A rating.

Then of course there is Bachmann. She's out and about and still bragging.
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curiousdwk
Global Citizen. Not Democratic, not Republican, n
03:13 PM on 10/14/2011
This "class warfare" is not new although the Republicans charging Obama with class warfare is new. Those of us who care about the "have-nots" have recognized the class warfare being perpetuated by the Republicans for a long time. Considering their tax advantages to the rich and their constant cutting of entitlements, they have been engaged in this warfare for a long time. Even by their packaging the term "entitlements" to really mean "not-entitled" as they literally spit it out of their mouths smacks of class warfare. Their dividing society into "us" versus "them" is an act of class warfare as they are defining "the enemy" as those receiving these entitlements.

How can the Repbulicans criticize Obama for class warfare without expressing at least a smirk of hypocrisy?
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ohohyeah
11:57 AM on 10/17/2011
Only recently (roughly last couple years) have they been attacking the elderly. Is that class warfare?

That guy from Wisconsin -- he worse than Bush.
12:52 PM on 10/13/2011
Recent Free Trade is nothing but a one-sided fraud! Keep them Honest! "These trade agreements are one of the best ways to create jobs in America now," said Thomas J. Donohue, president and chief executive of the U.S. Chamber of Commerce. Isn’t CC of the big lobbyists for Big business that likes to pay-off politicians? Hum…
Hum. The Proponents say that the “ trade agreements — with Colombia and Panama as well as South Korea — will pump as much as $14 billion into the U.S. economy and add more than 250,000 jobs. Wow! Really? Hum....
But the “benefits may NOT be seen immediately” because it “will take TIME” for many U.S. companies to take advantage of the increased access to foreign markets. It will takes time…Hum..I thought we needed to create jobs, now? Hum….
If this trade bill is so wonderful for Americans, I have one simple question! Mr. President, why do we need an “extension of the Trade Adjustment Assistance program for $575-million in tax payer money for job training program alongside the trade pacts ? Hum… Maybe we are planning for more job displacements for Americans? Hum…
This WAR ON THE MIDDLE CLASS WORKER by politicians that support this trade policy for campaign pay-off that have created Job loss of 2.8 Million from 2001 to 2010 as reported by Economic Policy Institute! We wonder why unemployed Americans are suffering? When will this shameful stupidity!
06:55 PM on 10/09/2011
In Republican terms.....what kind of 'jobs' do they intend to increase? Minimum wage? At the expense of Professional wages?
08:40 AM on 10/05/2011
I'd say the "class warfare" thing has pretty much run its course. The reason is that is that it's ridiculous on its face, like most things republicans say. The rich screw over the poor, and that's just business as usual in America. The poor make a fuss about it and suddenly it's "class warfare". Something this absurd could appeal only to acolytes of the republican religion.
06:38 PM on 10/09/2011
What can be more absurd than the rich screwing the poor????
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time2talk
An eye for an eye and we'll all be blind
08:52 PM on 10/15/2011
More like run into the streets to protest the inequality.
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election2012
An independent voice for the greater good.
02:25 PM on 10/04/2011
I've got an alternative catch-phrase. How about 'erosion of the middle class'

http://money.cnn.com/2011/09/21/news/economy/middle_class_income/index.htm?hpt=hp_c2
06:39 PM on 10/09/2011
I believe that is the same catch-phrase as the rich screwing the poor. Because, ultimately, most of the middle class will be amongst the 'poor' category.
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07:15 PM on 10/02/2011
Class warfare? It's not just against the poor anymore.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pDRIJC31tU
11:26 PM on 10/01/2011
Main Street doesn't give a hoot and a holler about charges of "class warfare". This is strictly a punditry issue.

Main Street does understand and does care about the rich paying their fair share of taxes. Always has.
06:40 PM on 10/09/2011
Apparently you have been up on the NYC news about protesting inequity.
Mike Rock
Right wingers, prepare to lose debate.
09:47 PM on 10/01/2011
Listen, this is fine, but I'm tired of the few PAID commentators telling us what we already know. Yes, the "class warfare" charge is crap - that is, it's crap when it's from the right/billionaire/overlord/fascist class. It's a true charge, ironically, in reverse. But we don't need you to tell us that.
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CarlyQ
Without followers, evil cannot spread.
09:28 PM on 10/01/2011
Anybody who has had experience with people with antisocial personality disorders will undoubtedly recognize the classic bafflegab and projection the Republican party is doing here. The purpose is to confuse the public and suggest they, themselves, are the victims.

I'm glad these statistics back up what the general public believes.
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BCSLAVE
Got a key?
10:02 PM on 10/02/2011
Most logical Carly!
DoTheMath
We're outspent, but they're outnumbered
08:10 PM on 10/01/2011
Thank you for the statistics, Margie Omero. They show that despite all the fear mongering about "class warfare" and "redistribution," most people understand that when too many people are suffering and a few people have so, so much more than they need, there's something wrong with the distribution we've got.
CHUXKLES
Independently, non-dependent
09:21 PM on 10/01/2011
Do you own a car?
I don't ...if you do please send your name and address and I'll stop by tomorrow to pick it up.
If you don't own a car I realize you'll want mine...so you lose.
Somebody has to have a car let's work together and findout who does and then we can go and take it from them together.
We just have to be careful because ...if we get a car then somebody will be trying to take it from us and that would suck!!
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Kristopher Leang
training to take down the elite
10:21 PM on 10/01/2011
and yet another republican who cant understand redistribution of wealth properly nor the point of social services.. a sad sad day
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BCSLAVE
Got a key?
10:06 PM on 10/02/2011
Its not about stealing but paying an equitable amount of taxes across the board instead of what is increasingly becoming apparent and that is welfare for the well healed through unreasonably low taxes.

Hey I'd love to pay no taxes but I know the sewer would backup and who wants that! Except maybe some who thinks paying some taxes to keep the sewer lid down is bad. If that's you, then you can have the brown stuff too with your tax break.
08:04 PM on 10/01/2011
Ok the game is up! Let go of the denial already, get real people. "Warfare" is the ultimate and most extreme form of human competition. And according to American right wing capitalist dogma competition is a good thing....right??

So class warfare is a good thing. The American middle income population should not be embarrassed that they have discovered that they were bamboozled into believing in the "illusion of prosperity" created by Wall Street. Making the wealthy have to fight, scratch, and claw to keep their wealth is healthy. Nobody simply deserves to be rich, people should only be rich as a result of hard, very hard, work and the deft fending off of competition and rivals. That is how a real FREE MARKET should work.

So let's get on with it, lets end the cheap scape America that Regan and his Voodoo economics has produced and PAY for childrens future (nothing is free, nothing!): So lets raise the marginal income tax rates back to 35% area and start paying our way.
06:44 PM on 10/09/2011
Irony does nothing to raise questions about economy.
07:57 PM on 10/01/2011
As a end to this discrimination, how about a "fee" assessed on everyone ? That way, everyone pays a share of the upkeep of our government. Everyone would pay for the use of the roads, schools, fire department, police. What would be a fair "fee" for each person... How about $10 per month for the upkeep of our country ? How about $15 per month ? That way, there would be no penalty for making a certain amount of money, or benefit for not.

Your thoughts ?
09:57 PM on 10/06/2011
someone already came up with this ... look up flat tax friend =)