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Margie Omero

Margie Omero

Posted: January 24, 2011 01:51 PM

To best learn from Tucson, we should examine not just the shooting's cause, but how to prevent more shootings in the future. This Gallup poll reveals the complexity of voters' views, but also the consistency with which stricter gun laws are central to the discussion of violence. It also confirms what my firm found in this bipartisan poll on behalf of Mayors Against Illegal Guns, released last week (and done jointly with Republican firm American Viewpoint).

Using their own words, Americans cite stricter gun laws as the best way to prevent more mass shootings. Gallup asked an open-ended question about what could be done to "prevent mass shootings from occurring in the United States." Not only was the number one response gun-related ("stricter gun laws"), but almost half (42%) responded in some way about stricter gun laws. Note this does not include "teaching children about proper use of guns" or "allowing people to carry guns for their own protection."

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And whether thinking about Tucson specifically, or mass shootings generally, Gallup found Americans blame "easy access to guns" about as much as a mental health system failure. Our poll found something very similar, with heated political rhetoric receiving far less blame.

Gallup also notes that few feel stricter gun laws would have prevented the actual tragedy at Tucson, or, at that time, Virginia Tech. Perhaps, they hypothesize, this is "because of the intense focus in the news media on the accused perpetrator in each tragedy." Unfortunately this one data point pervaded much of the recent coverage.

This post-Tucson poll reporting--wrongly, in my view--suggested that despite Tucson, Americans continue to oppose stricter gun laws. In fact, as I wrote last week, for years overwhelming majorities have supported many of the stricter gun laws actually under discussion. And unaided, Americans decisively identify stricter gun laws as the best way to prevent future tragedies. One way to learn from Tucson is to truly listen to public opinion.

 

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To best learn from Tucson, we should examine not just the shooting's cause, but how to prevent more shootings in the future. This Gallup poll reveals the complexity of voters' views, but also the con...
To best learn from Tucson, we should examine not just the shooting's cause, but how to prevent more shootings in the future. This Gallup poll reveals the complexity of voters' views, but also the con...
 
 
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LouGots
05:15 PM on 02/07/2011
Go for it, gun-grabbers. We'll meet you at the polls in 2012.

You have to ask yourself, "Do I feel lucky?" Well, do ya?

The gun people know what's at stake, and what is and is not in play. We're already making our plans, talking it up. Every gun-grabber threat makes us stronger, more focused.

BTW, we're still waiting to hear from President Obama. [Crickets--crickets--crickets]
12:30 PM on 01/27/2011
So, 76% of those polled do NOT think 'stricter gun control laws' would prevent mass shootings from occurring in the United States.
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11:59 AM on 01/26/2011
firearm is a device which projects either single or multiple projectiles at high velocity through a controlled explosion. The firing is achieved by the gases produced through rapid, confined burning of a propellant. This process of rapid burning is technically known as deflagration
Modern guns use either a combination of a hammer and firing pin or a striker. The hammer or the striker are spring-loaded and held back by the sear. Pulling the trigger moves the sear out of the way allowing the hammer to fall on the firing pin or the striker to move forward and to smash the primer of a cartridge which produces a flame to ignite the propellant charge inside the the cartridge case.
A trigger is a mechanism that actuates the firing sequence of firearms, or a power tool. Triggers almost universally consist of levers or buttons actuated by the index finger. Rare variations use the thumb or weak fingers to actuate the trigger
As you can see it requires a conscious thought of pulling a trigger to make a weapon fire, it is not the firearm it is the person using it that is the problem….The community college, Campus Police, and Sheriff’s office had several opportunities to stop the shooting in AZ simply by doing something to get the CRAZY some help and he would not been able to purchase a firearm….
02:25 PM on 01/28/2011
grenade launchers don't shoot themselves either, but pretty much everyone agrees those should be illegal. Clearly it is a question of where you draw the line.

Personally I don't like guns, but I do like liberty. I think it is reasonable for people to argue that they have the right to firearms for sport.

However, I don't think it is reasonable to argue that semi-automatic concealable handguns are necessary for any innocent purpose, including protecting yourself. It's likely you'd be much safer protecting yourself with a stun-gun.

I think this fight has really been caused by gun manufacturing lobby that has leverage over politicians who engage in 'culture war' to ginn up support.
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JimInHouston
Arma virumque cano...
08:50 PM on 01/28/2011
"I think it is reasonable for people to argue that they have the right to firearms for sport. "

That's not what the Constitution says.

"However, I don't think it is reasonable to argue that semi-autom­atic concealabl­e handguns are necessary for any innocent purpose, including protecting yourself. It's likely you'd be much safer protecting yourself with a stun-gun."

That's because you don't know guns and have not had any training with them. It is an absurd statement, particularly considering the record of concealed carry holder.

"I think this fight has really been caused by gun manufactur­ing lobby that has leverage over politician­s who engage in 'culture war' to ginn up support. "

You can thank the anti's who stir things up with their periodic forays against gun rights -- like RIGHT NOW. You may or may not have noticed that it's not the "gun lobby" that has posted these two dozen provocative blogs on HuffPo.
10:02 AM on 01/31/2011
"Clearly it is a question of where you draw the line."

The line has been settled for decades.

Restricted to military/police/government, without special authorization:

* Automatic weapons or weapons easily convertible to fire automatically (machineguns, subguns, actual assault rifles)
* All weapons .51 caliber and up (except shotguns and over-.50 hunting rifles)
* Sound suppressed weapons
* Disguised firearms (cell phone guns, cane guns, wallet guns)
* Short-barreled rifles and shotguns (
03:01 AM on 01/26/2011
People willing to commit mass murders are willing to get guns illegally.they don't care about gun laws.All the gun laws in the world are not going to stop someone who has no respect for law.The criminals will have guns no matter what.The ordinary citizen will be the one to abide by the law and have nothing to defend themselves with.
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Zork4
You can have your own opinion, not your own facts.
10:08 AM on 01/26/2011
Practical experience shows your argument to be false. Canada has strict gun laws and far fewer guns in circulation. The highest numbers aof gun deaths in America are in States with the most guns in circulation. Most ordinary citizens who own guns lack the training and experience to defend themselves in a firefight. If you have a gun at home the most likely person to be hurt with it is a member of your own family.
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maxfax
Taa - dah!
11:50 AM on 01/26/2011
Gun control is the only answer to our outrageous murder rate of 34 gun deaths a day.
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JimInHouston
Arma virumque cano...
03:48 PM on 01/26/2011
Not very up on facts, are you? Look at murder rates in several countries and you will see no correlation with legal gun ownership.

"Most ordinary citizens who own guns lack the training and experience to defend themselves in a firefight. "

Then how come they're so successful, to the tune of hundreds of thousands (or millions) of times per year?

"If you have a gun at home the most likely person to be hurt with it is a member of your own family. "

What "research" supports this? (I bet I know what it is, but I want you to tell us).
06:13 PM on 01/25/2011
This is why we don't legislate by the latest poll...
10:54 AM on 01/25/2011
We had stricter gun laws. We had an assault weapons ban, and restrictions on ammo capacity. I wish someone in the media would investigate whether this had any effect on gun violence and mass shootings. My sense is, it did not, and gun laws are a feel-good fools errand. But I'd love to know for sure.
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Dimensio
I just don't know what went wrong!
11:51 AM on 01/25/2011
We had an assault weapons ban, and restrictions on ammo capacity. I wish someone in the media would investigate whether this had any effect on gun violence and mass shootings.
 No government agency was able to demonstrate that the now-expired prohibitions to which you refer affected rates of violetn crime.
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JimInHouston
Arma virumque cano...
11:27 PM on 01/25/2011
"My sense is, it did not, and gun laws are a feel-good fools errand. But I'd love to know for sure. "

Your spidey-sense is absolutely right. Studies were done. No effect was found.
08:21 AM on 01/25/2011
There is no logic in assuming more gun control laws would prevent violent crime. One need only look and cities like Chicago and Washington DC as examples. They both have very restrictive gun laws and very high violent crime rates. Chicago holds the dubious distinction of having the most police officer deaths in the country. What would make you assume more restrictive gun laws would protect anyone?
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Jim Pasterczyk
Banned!
02:13 AM on 01/25/2011
Yes, untie the hands of the ATF, let their staff increase with the greater number of gun dealers out there, inspect them vigorously and if they abuse their licenses, lift them. Selling guns isn't a right, it's a privilege that can be revoked for abuse.
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Rooster Coburn
Less Gov't + More Responsibility = A Better World
07:17 AM on 01/25/2011
Where in our Constitution do you find that it says that the federal government my make selling anything a privilege?
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Jim Pasterczyk
Banned!
02:01 AM on 01/26/2011
Who says the Constitution is the basis of all US law? You see anything in there about kidnapping?
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bsmithslo
01:46 AM on 01/25/2011
Stop it with the polling and opinion. Please post the best fact based arguments covering the effectiveness of stricter gun laws. If there aren't any we should know that too. If we wrote laws by poll we would be teaching Creationism in biology. We don't.
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maxfax
Taa - dah!
11:44 PM on 01/24/2011
You would think with 34 killings with guns a day in America, stricter gun laws would be supported by more than only 34% of respondents. Guess not.
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schotts
Strength and Honor
02:22 AM on 01/25/2011
The guns aren't causing the killings. It's a very complex, deep rooted problem involving a number of influencing factors. But, for those that think they can wink a problem away, sure, ban them.
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maxfax
Taa - dah!
09:24 PM on 01/25/2011
Ban guns, limit their access, you'll see a dramatic drop in gun violence.  If it doesn't work, we can return to the "wild wild west." 
11:25 PM on 01/24/2011
Yes. That about covers it. 1/4 are for more gun control and everyone else isn't...
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Jim Pasterczyk
Banned!
02:12 AM on 01/25/2011
1/3, genius.
02:23 AM on 01/25/2011
So, are winning that argument yet or are not? No? Didn't sway anyone or even make a friend did ya...
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hagagaga
You can't take the sky from me.
10:16 PM on 01/24/2011
The best way to end violent crime is to end poverty.
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George Hanshaw
There are none so blind as those who will not see.
10:27 PM on 01/24/2011
Really? Poverty makes people violent? Why aren't all the countries with a fraction of our GDP per capita violent?

Damn few countries exceed our wealth:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_%28PPP%29_per_capita

Many of them are poverty-stricken, but they don't have the level of violence we find in our major cities.
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10:48 PM on 01/24/2011
go to an inner city and ask that question. Poverty all around, violence all around. there is a connection in the US regarding poverty and violence. Not a very PC topic to bring up and discuss but in poverty areas there is violence.

Other countries don't have the TV shows, movies, music,etc that we are exposed to on a daily basis....
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Rooster Coburn
Less Gov't + More Responsibility = A Better World
07:20 AM on 01/25/2011
Actually, when it comes to homicide, the USA is 24 on the list, Russia is 5th, and and nine European nations rank ahead of us. 
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cri_mur_percap-crime-murders-per-capita
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Nick Mroz
nosce te ipsum
11:48 AM on 01/25/2011
Finally someone is trying find and solve the root cause. Fanned and fav'd.
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George Hanshaw
There are none so blind as those who will not see.
07:13 PM on 01/24/2011
According to the FBI in 2008 there were 220 million firearms in private hands in the US, the vast majority of those unregistered and identifiable (if at all) only to the original purchaser - and then only if purchased in the last three years.

In the last two years there has been a HUGE increase in the sale of guns and ammunition:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/11/02/AR2009110202712.html

Approximately 12 Billion rounds of ammunition are now being sold in the US annually and in the first year after Obama was inaugurated gun sales increased 42% over previous year - despite the bad economy.

The country that lacks the political will to deport 11 million illegal aliens damn sure lacks the political will to take these weapons away from anyone. Moreover, every time the dems have approached this issue, they have been burned. It is - in its own way - every bit the third-rail issue that Social Security is.

You may BELIEVE you can alter this situation, but with the recent Supreme Court decision that the right to keep and bear arms is - like the First Amendment - and individual right, and with the fourteenth amendment essentially pre-empting state law on this issue in favor of the Second Amendment, going after gun rights is a judicial and political waste of time.
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LouGots
05:24 PM on 02/07/2011
Not a waste of time. As a RKBA activist, I need this debate fired up. I need my people fired up, I need them voting their guns and nothing else.

2012 is crucial for gun rights in the future, for the Supreme Court locked in during the next presidential term will define the rights affirmed in Heller and McDonald. If the gun-grabbers weren't ranting like this, the gun-culture rank and file would stray after strange causes.
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Jinx06831
06:42 PM on 01/24/2011
I agree. Stricter gun laws, the strictest possible...should work or at lease make the situation better.

After all, see how well it is working out for Mexico.
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George Hanshaw
There are none so blind as those who will not see.
07:00 PM on 01/24/2011
and Chicago....
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BluePhantom2
The Blacksmith & the Artist reflected in their art
07:45 PM on 01/24/2011
LA, DC, Detroit and the list of progressively controlled city's with out of control violence (Guns too) goes on.
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johnny g locker
05:21 PM on 01/24/2011
Just goes to show that 42% of the population is clueless about preventing mass shootings.