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George Zimmerman's Bond Revoked: Here's What Happens Next

Posted: 06/04/2012 2:53 pm

Friday we saw yet another crazy twist in the circus-like case of George Zimmerman. What started out as a simple hearing regarding whether to seal discovery evidence from the media turned into a blame game and strict orders by Judge Kenneth Lester that Zimmerman return to jail within 48 hours. Prosecutor Bernie de la Rionda told the judge Zimmerman "misrepresented, misled, and deceived the court" at his bond hearing April 20 when he failed to turn over a second passport and, more importantly, failed to mention the fact that he raised $135,000 on a website prior to the hearing. So what happens now? Basically, Lester is starting from scratch, and once Zimmerman is back in custody, he'll hold a brand new bond hearing now that this information has come to light to decide whether to raise his bond, or revoke it completely.

After a few weeks of relative calm and quiet in this case that has captured the nation, Friday's news set a firestorm online and on TV with many Martin supporters, including Martin family attorney Benjamin Crump, calling for Zimmerman to remain in custody until the trial. Given the fact that Zimmerman actually had much more money at the time of the original bond hearing than he and his family led the court to believe, I think a higher bond is necessary and appropriate. The fact is, whether it was intentional or not, Zimmerman and his wife deceived the judge in April when they said they were a family of little means and unable to pay a high bond. When the judge calls a new hearing, the main question he'll want answered is how much money does Zimmerman have in his defense fund now. Based off that amount, he'll raise the bond accordingly.

However, a full revocation, in my opinion, is too severe and unnecessary. Remember, the purpose of a bond is to ensure the defendant will appear in court. Judges are mindful not to set bond so low that the defendant can potentially use the money to flee, which is why, given this extra money from his website, a higher bond is fully appropriate. Yet to revoke Zimmerman's bond and force him to remain in jail until the trial, which may not be until next year, is unnecessary. As his defense attorney, Mark O'Mara, reminded the court, Zimmerman has remained in constant contact, there have been no problems with his GPS monitoring and he has not been a flight risk. Even with the extra passport and extra money he had after the initial bond was set, Zimmerman never attempted to flee.

In terms of the second passport, that, to me, is less of a consideration in the judge's decision. He even said today that he was not swayed by arguments about the second passport, often routinely obtained by people who lose their passports. Plus, O'Mara said it was his fault the passport had not been turned in sooner as he simply forgot to hand it over to authorities until Friday.

The real question to me is whether Zimmerman will testify again at his new bond hearing. When Zimmerman testified the first time it was a complete shock, as criminal defendants almost never take the stand so early, if at all, in a case. Yet, O'Mara took that gamble the first time around so I wouldn't be surprised if Zimmerman testified once again, this time to try to appease the judge and explain he didn't intentionally lie to him, but that these oversights were an honest mistake. He'd likely claim, either on the stand, or in a written affidavit, that he did not consider the funds raised from the website his own money since it was going towards his defense and his attorney and that as soon as he realized he had this second passport, he turned it over to his attorney. The risk in having Zimmerman testify again is prosecutors can cross-examine him, and unlike last time, they'll be prepared and not flabbergasted if he takes the stand. Still, the prosecution can only cross-examine him within the scope of direct examination, so basically they can only ask him about the money in the fund and the passport.

The reason why the judge called Zimmerman back to jail is he wants the bond to accurately reflect his current financial circumstances. Yet any notion that the judge is livid over Zimmerman's lies and will take this lack of credibility into consideration as the case moves forward is a stretch. The fact that Zimmerman may have lied about his financial situation and passport are not relevant to the issue of whether he intentionally killed Trayvon Martin. The thousands of files of discovery, which thanks to Florida's full disclosure law and Lester's ruling Friday will now be made public, are much more relevant to whether he is guilty than his alleged deceit at the original bond hearing.

 

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Friday we saw yet another crazy twist in the circus-like case of George Zimmerman. What started out as a simple hearing regarding whether to seal discovery evidence from the media turned into a blame ...
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lmishelle43
I hate hypocrites in politics
08:08 PM on 07/31/2012
It is very easy to draw the conclusion that he did try to deceive the courts by having the courts transfer the money to his wife's and sister's accountsdays before the bond hearing and then to his own account right after he got out.
02:25 PM on 06/15/2012
Our Legal Lady appears to have been clueless as to the depth of the court's irritation with Ms. Zimmerman's testimony and Mr. Zimmerman's "potted plant" failure to inform the court regarding the true nature of his finances.

I can't guess whether the judge will decide whether bail is still appropriate in this case; and if so, in what amount. The judge has enormous discretion in terms of what he can take into account, and how to balance those factors.

Our Legal Lady doesn't seem to be aware of the role a defendant's credibility plays in a bail determination; nor the importance of the source of his money. Here we have a mixture of lies and "easy come easy go" donated money. We also have a pissed-off judge.

I'm not predicting what the court will decide in terms of future bail, just saying that the judge has a ton of new facts and acres of latitude to reach new decisions. After Our Legal Lady goes to law school, is admitted to the bar, AND gets a few years of DA or PD experience, maybe she can begin to appreciate how things are done in the criminal [ahem] justice system.

In the meantime...
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Robert SF
04:34 PM on 06/07/2012
"He'd likely claim, either on the stand, or in a written affidavit, that he did not consider the funds raised from the website his own money since it was going towards his defense and his attorney . . ."
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That won't fly, though. First, it was actually his wife who perjured herself. And the excuse that they didn't consider the money theirs won't fly because the court didn't ask that. The court asked Zimmerman's wife if she knew how much money the website had raised. She said she did not. That was a lie. She did know. She had just transferred the money to her credit union the day before. How could she not know?

Also, it's very unlikely that O'Mara didn't talk to Zimmerman and his wife before the hearing, and ask basically the same questions the court asked. They lied to him too.
11:25 AM on 06/11/2012
Actually, if you heard the defense attorney's original statement it is clear he was playing the plausible deniability card. It's not a direct quote but he said multiple times "the money that I know about"... it is possible that he asked specific questions, to get specific answers in order to maintain plausible deniability about the existence or lack there of, of outside funding.

However, they've known about the extra funds for a while... I have a feeling this is more about the second passport than anything else.
03:53 PM on 06/06/2012
I don't know why they didn't post my comments,I'll try again.Z lied to the court but omitted this information from his lawyer. His lawyer goes on Anderson Cooper and admits there's money, why because Z told him after the bond hearing. There were phone coversations in court from family except the brother. They tried to bamboozle the judge.They figured that the brother couldn't be touch and Z would not be held accountable. The judge look into it and back in jail he went. I want to know the date on the passport,if it's recent,I think he's a flight risk. This judge is not gonna play footsies with these people, they perjured themselves .Z thinks he's always a step ahead of everyone,when actually he sabotage his own defense. J-MAL
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royofan
Obama sez-"If u c something suspicious, speak up"
11:05 PM on 06/06/2012
"I want to know the date on the passport,if it's recent,I think he's a flight risk"

Why are you asking for something you could easily find if you were following this case?
05:10 AM on 06/07/2012
where do I find it? I'm a crime junkie,I think the date important.
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McHell
Atheism: a non-prophet organization
08:00 AM on 06/07/2012
The original passport (which he initially handed in to the court as his "one and only" passport) was obtained in 2002. The "replacement" (which ended up in the safety deposit box) was obtained in 2004.
10:11 AM on 06/07/2012
Thanks the passport is still suspect since he didn't turn it in,but the big picture is hiding the money.
04:46 AM on 06/08/2012
Thanks J-MAL
12:46 PM on 06/06/2012
The judge did not know neither did Mark until after bond hearing. He came on Anderson Cooper to act knowlege there was money,after Z asked Mark what you want me to do with the money. He was back in court the next day to tell the judge. This happen weeks ago the judge needed all the facts before he ruled. I would like the date ,on the new passport? J-MAL
02:52 AM on 06/18/2012
I'm sure if GZ decides to flee the country he will not tell his lawyer.
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edgySF
I am as God created me
08:45 AM on 06/06/2012
The passport is a bigger deal than you think. Keep in mind that GZ turned in his OUTDATED passport, and KEPT the valid one.
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HotheadPaisen
Longform bio awaiting the Donald's approval.
04:46 PM on 06/06/2012
Agree. The judge downplayed the passport as compared to the lie about finances, but that doesn't mean he forgot it, or the jailhouse conversation about keeping it stashed.
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08:07 PM on 06/06/2012
You are correct the passport should be a big deal.What was GZ's lawyer O'mara thinking at the first bond hearing, not revealing all the info.to the judge?,,,this is a high profile case he should of known better.Is GZ lying to the lawyer also,if so I would not be suprised if O'mara quits the case.
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Tim Berton
11:05 AM on 06/08/2012
The passport was not a big deal because the lawyer had it weeks ago.

Zimmerman would not want a passport in his name if he wanted to flee because he is too well known.

Zimmerman would not get far even if he decided to flee and had a fake passport. It would be one of the biggest manhunts in history.
08:05 PM on 06/05/2012
Okay, I'm retired and never practiced in Florida, but the criminal attorneys posting in this thread who think that a court might not consider perjury by the defendant at a previous bond hearing as one factor in determining whether bond should be raised or revoked are mistaken.

BDL
06:03 PM on 06/05/2012
Are you kidding me? [[Censored for questioning bloggers title]]

It is absolutely clear that Zimmerman and his wife conspired to deceive the court. Their coded jail conversations demonstrate that they wanted to conceal not only how much money was available to them, but also that they had control over how to use it and for what.

Furthermore their conversation seems to show that they also knew of the 2nd passport prior to the bond hearing where the court was led to believe Zimmerman was turning in his only passport. That his lawyer came to learn of it and told Zimmerman the court would find out so he needs to turn it over, is irrelevant at that point.

BOTH of these things should cause grave concern in the mind of the court that Zimmerman had it in the back of his mind that he might, at some point should things start to look sour for him, decide he needs to get out of dodge.

One doesn't need money and a passport to do that, but it sure makes it A LOT easier. So even with a higher bond and zero credibility now from Zimmerman (you can't take his word that he won't run), the judge should order Zimmerman be held in custody through the trial, particularly given that he is MUCH more likely to be convicted now that he has destroyed his credibility.
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Tim Berton
11:09 AM on 06/08/2012
If I was in jail, I wouldn't want to be talking about $100K because criminals might overhear. Using a code could have been to prevent other criminals from being tempted by mentions of large amounts of money.
12:45 PM on 06/08/2012
That doesn't explain his wife nor his choosing not to correct his wife, when she claimed to the judge that she didn't know how much money was in the PayPal account.

They obviously knew, and committed an act of perjury, which is also a felony. If the DA decides to prosecute them on those charges they will need to prove that the Zimmerman's were aware of that when they told the judge differently. Of course chances are the DA can now just use the threat of those charges to get George to agree to a plea deal. (Manslaughter of someone under the age of 18, and take a 20 year sentence, rather than risk 25 to life in prison).
03:44 PM on 06/05/2012
Are you kidding me? You call yourself the Legal Lady?

It is absolutely clear that Zimmerman and his wife conspired to deceive the court. Their coded jail conversations demonstrate that they wanted to conceal not only how much money was available to them, but also that they had control over how to use it and for what.

Furthermore their conversation seems to show that they also knew of the 2nd passport prior to the bond hearing where the court was led to believe Zimmerman was turning in his only passport. That his lawyer came to learn of it and told Zimmerman the court would find out so he needs to turn it over, is irrelevant at that point.

BOTH of these things should cause grave concern in the mind of the court that Zimmerman had it in the back of his mind that he might, at some point should things start to look sour for him, decide he needs to get out of dodge.

One doesn't need money and a passport to do that, but it sure makes it A LOT easier. So even with a higher bond and zero credibility now from Zimmerman (you can't take his word that he won't run), the judge should order Zimmerman be held in custody through the trial, particularly given that he is MUCH more likely to be convicted now that he has destroyed his credibility.
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tenderperennial
Fools mistake privilege for success
08:15 AM on 06/07/2012
My sentiments exactly. Talk about sugar coating. This article is laughable. Hiding a second passport doesn't mean he's a flight risk? What exactly does it mean Leagl Lady?
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shanghaislim
Is this creamy white enough for my micro bio....ch
03:02 PM on 06/05/2012
......appeared on CNN, BBC radio, Geraldo Rivera and HLN online.

Why list networks in your bio......along with Geraldo Rivera?

Shouldn't that read........appeared on CNN, BBC radio, FOX News and HLN online.

Any reason for the omission?
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Mari Fagel
03:45 PM on 06/05/2012
Ive appeared on his radio show, not his cable tv show
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shanghaislim
Is this creamy white enough for my micro bio....ch
08:29 PM on 06/05/2012
thanks.....I was hoping so.
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shanghaislim
Is this creamy white enough for my micro bio....ch
02:35 PM on 06/05/2012
"The reason why the judge called Zimmerman back to jail is he wants the bond to accurately reflect his current financial circumstances."

My query Ms. Fagel:

Maybe he should consider the notoriety this case has now achieved....(I believe it has already surpassed Casey Anthony?)........and the fact that he revoked bail.....and Zimmerman's donations have skyrocketed in 4 days...............that no matter the bond, no matter IF Zimmerman has access or not to that specific money...............

...there may be people and organizations out there willing to help George Zimmerman at any cost in any way possible to make sure he remains free.................as well as there may be plenty of people willing to do him extreme harm if he is located.............

...that it may be worth it for the case and his reputation to have Zimmerman remain in custody until trial?

If Zimmerman doesn't make it to trial for whatever reason......(other than a plea)......the judges career will be over?”
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patman77
12:13 PM on 06/05/2012
can't wait to see his donars list.
GRANDMAPATRIOT
obviously a senior patriot
08:39 AM on 06/05/2012
when a mob can influence the law there is NOT ONE SAFE PERSON on this soil. As far as this judge....he should recuse himself from this because the stand your ground law is very much in place and to have the COURT say other than the police ON THE SCENE.....POLITICS and MOB MENTALITY govern his decions to date.
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shanghaislim
Is this creamy white enough for my micro bio....ch
02:40 PM on 06/05/2012
Police on the scene recommended for Zimmerman to be arrested.

Get your facts straight.

Yeah...and blame the judge...that should go over well with the court.
03:47 PM on 06/05/2012
The only one who had any right to stand his ground under the law was Trayvon Martin. It was his ground to stand after being pursued and assaulted by an armed assailant. Zimmerman left his ground (his car and any viable paths back to his home) and invaded Trayvon's ground.

Sorry Grandma. There IS NO stand your ground defense for Zimmerman. You don't threaten somebody (by following them with a deadly weapon), and then get to shoot them dead when they defend themselves from you.
04:51 AM on 06/05/2012
So far all we have heard is from the prosecutor, who deliberately dropped a Friday afternoon bombshell. In this case I have learned few things are as one side claims they are.
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McHell
Atheism: a non-prophet organization
09:10 AM on 06/05/2012
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YQZDLUUXDA

Zimmerman's OWN lawyer admits that Zimmerman and/or his wife gave misleading testimony and deliberately withheld the second passport!

"The question of whether or not they [Zimmerman and his wife] represented it [the money] properly, I think it was somewhat misleading to the court. I've gone over that with George. Um... I think you need to realize we're still talking about a 28 year old... who you know... is being charged with a crime he does not believe he committed..."

Also...
http://www.latimes.com/news/nation/nationnow/la-na-nn-judge-revokes-george-zimmerman-bond-20120601,0,4612322.story
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Medicine13ear
Joy cometh in the morning.
01:10 PM on 06/06/2012
"I think you need to realize we're still talking about a 28 year old... "

Sounds like he's talking about an 8 year old not a 28 year old.

And so many still have no problem, even after all his violence and lies and fatally-flawed judgment, with him and his clones being allowed to carry a loaded weapon.
10:33 PM on 06/15/2012
I don't take anything at face value, especially not the words of a lawyer. I continue to have serious doubts about the Zimmerman's having actual full control of the funds. Documents, not words, are what I am waiting for.
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fabuloush2s
EverGreen
10:58 PM on 06/04/2012
Okay, here is my question and possibly a thought... if these two actually made a "mistake" now it's being called an unintentional mistake, why were they caught talking about the money in codes? When a person unintentionally does an untruth, it would not require secrecy or coded language..this is where I have a problem understanding Mari's take as to whether GZ will be released once again, only this time at a higher bail. The system is designed last I have knowledge of, to render bail and expect the defendant to return and obey the laws and rules of the release. These two actually lied and knew they were telling an untruth under oath!! The mere statement in the body of this article tends to take lightly, perjury in a material fact in a criminal charge. What the court asked was simple, how much is in the defense fund Zimmerman people?? No one offered the truth...not even the lawyer interrupting to provide an extra opportunity to answer honestly. This is what is so outlandish about GZ and the supporters who believe our justice system is to be played, and who plays the best hand wins. This is not a sports game or event, and the world is watching America defly their own laws and statues breaking them down one by one! Hopefully, perjury is significant to hold those who abuse it accountable.
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shanghaislim
Is this creamy white enough for my micro bio....ch
02:45 PM on 06/05/2012
When the judge asked them that question...........O'Mara should have interrupted (as you suggest)...told the judge they were not sure and could they have more time (one day or two at most) to make sure they give the judge a completely accurate accounting?

Seems that would have been the lawyerly thing to do..............but alas.........he sat on his hands and it cost his client dearly......and maybe in the long run.....
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fabuloush2s
EverGreen
06:40 PM on 06/05/2012
Exactly!!! I agree, the lawyer was not thinking or just allowed these family members perjury themselves... the passport being maintained in his briefcase to turn in, was one issue...but the bond hearing was the material factor $$$$$$$$$$ every good attorney knows this! I was surprised by O'Mara actions, especially when he was granted the telephonic appearance which may have allowed for further reseach ... but the telephonic appearance in a criminal lengthy hearing, with assests being reviewed in itself is questionable, because telephone in Fl state courts, do not go beyond 15 minutes... and very little is conducted, such as , traffic court ...etc, minor topics, not criminal and family members testifying in cases of murder!!
03:53 PM on 06/05/2012
Furthermore, bail is intended to be high enough and from one's own personal assets and ideally requiring the borrowing of assets from one's family and personal friends such that the person is inclined to show up for trial.

Posting bail from the coffers of complete strangers from the internet doesn't provide much of an incentive to not run should things look bad.