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Are All Blacks Prejudiced Against All Gays? Beyond the Static View of Race, Sexual Orientation and Otherness

Posted: 05/17/2012 4:36 pm

President Obama's support for marriage equality came just one day after North Carolina voters banned same-sex marriage. Twitter storms followed each development, in which tweeters first declared that black people were homophobic as a group, then just as sweepingly that they were not. Somehow, the North Carolina defeat for marriage equality was seen as proof that all blacks hate all gays, whereas President Obama's support was proof of the opposite.

This overgeneralization is somewhat similar to some of the commentary in the wake of the Trayvon Martin tragedy. We heard that "black violence" was somehow worse and more endemic than violence committed by non-black perpetrators. This idea was also the organizing principle behind the blog post that got John Derbyshire fired from the National Review for advising his children to avoid contact with black people who are, Derbyshire argued, statistically more likely to be arbitrarily violent, especially toward whites.

It is not hard to see the racist undertones of all of these arguments, down to the very notion that everyone of a certain "race" has personal character traits that are inescapably and intrinsically linked to their skin color. It is also not hard to find information to disprove them: many blacks in North Carolina opposed the constitutional same-sex marriage ban. And Justice Department statistics show that most violence is carried out within racial homogeneous communities, so that, for example, black-on-white homicides are a rare exception rather than the rule.

There are, of course, good reasons to pool and parse statistical information about any population using group criteria that may illustrate unequal policy outcomes for individuals associated with those groups. In fact, we expect governments to collect and separate statistics with a view to analyzing policy effectiveness and equal access to benefits, rights, and care. Generalizations about groups can also be helpful in visualizing the underlying reasons for inequality and devising strategies to overcome it.

However, problems arise when our only understanding and interactions with specific people result in our treating them as part of a group and not as individuals. Whatever else may be true about George Zimmerman's interaction with Trayvon Martin, it is clear from his phone comments to the police dispatcher that he had preconceived notions about Martin's "dangerousness" even before he got out of the car -- preconceptions that therefore only could be based on Martin's appearance, including his sex, age, color, and apparel, and most likely the combination of all of them.

The corollary of this notion is that one way to overcome racism and homophobia and other "group-isms" is for people to relate to each other as individuals. While it is true that some people are able to reconcile a generalized negative feeling about certain groups ("all blacks are violent") while nurturing positive sentiments about individuals from that group ("some of my best friends are black"), it is also true that most people start seeing a group differently when they know and love someone who belongs to it. A generally homophobic parent with a gay child may not feel compelled to campaign for marriage equality any more than they did before their child was "out." However, most will at least start questioning negative portrayals of "all gays" in the media. This is why Derbyshire's advice to his children to actively avoid contact with blacks is so insidious: it pushes a false notion of otherness that is purposefully static.

Even more serious problems arise when policies that should be informed by data and statistics instead are influenced by such Derbyshire-style perceptions of static and false otherness. The racial profiling of stop-and-frisk practices is one blatant example. Along those lines, Michelle Alexander has amassed examples of situations where police departments target predominantly black communities for aggressive interventions and arrests for drug-related crimes, even where data shows that in that specific state or city, the main users or sellers of drugs are not black. Many of the arguments voiced against marriage equality are equally based on false ideas that all gay people are promiscuous, sexually predatory, or bad parents.

And perhaps this is where the real issue lies. It is almost instinctual for us to organize information about the world around us based on visual cues and personal experiences. And it is equally human to use these cues and experiences to generate assumptions about what might happen and what we should do about it. It is when we confuse trends or, worse, preconceptions with reality that abuse, inequality, and discrimination can take hold.

More disturbingly, negative generalizations about what everyone in a given group wants, thinks, and does, help to justify those who actually do. When we portray all black people as homophobic we exonerate individuals of color who feel prejudiced against gays. They are not responsible for their beliefs -- their skin color made them do it.

I would not wish to be called homophobic just because quite of lot of individuals who happen to be white make anti-gay remarks. Even less would I want these individuals to be able to brush off their anti-gay sentiments as a natural part of their "whiteness." Prejudice is prejudice, wherever it comes from and whatever form it takes. Respect dictates we treat it as such.

This article was first published at RHRealitycheck.org.

 

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Yolinda Beach
Relax, today is a good day, it only gets worse fro
10:34 AM on 05/18/2012
Why worry about it? Estimates are only 9 million of 300 million are glbt.
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05:23 PM on 05/18/2012
I see. It's OK to deny civil rights to a minority if their number is small enough. Is that it?
10:17 AM on 05/18/2012
hyperbole, or extending the scope of the original argument to an unproveable universal standard is a failure of critical thinking.
Just as it is not wise to condemn the entirety of a group based on the actions of a few, it is just as unwise to not recognize/appreciate the actions of a LOT of the members of a group.
This is called "sociology"---which studies the over-all actions/repercussions of the actions of a group without much interest in the individual--or "exceptional"--actions of a few of its members.
Whereas Abduhl and seventeen of his closest friends may not, under the auspices of their religious social order, beat their wives on a regular basis, this is no way diminishes the REALITY of the overall social construct which indeed encourages such base action within the entirety of the society.
If one is going to attempt to use expansion of argument to prove their point, they should at least appreciate the actual modus of the entirety of the group in the first place and not dismiss the evidence of the majority in favor of highlighting the exceptional actions of the few.
08:23 AM on 05/18/2012
I think what the author is missing here is that when gay people are attacked as a group they attack back in kind. Why would anyone expect anything else?
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Jeremy Bursac
You're not the bossa nova me.
04:20 AM on 05/18/2012
Since no one thinks all blacks are prejudiced against glbt that framing by the headline is immediately suspect.

The stats from Prop 8 available right here at huff post show that the strongest correlations for opposing marriage equality in CA were relative lack of education, relative elderliness, relative religiousity. Race might impinge on some of these characteristics because this is an unequal society, but race itself is a weaker correlation.

Again, these are tendencies, correlations, not absolutes.
10:21 AM on 05/18/2012
I know that correlation is not causation, and you bring other important factors into the discussion, but any time you get 53%-58% (depending on the source) of black voters to side with conservatives/Republicans on an issue, there's something screwy...
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Jeremy Bursac
You're not the bossa nova me.
07:37 PM on 05/18/2012
Yes, I agree something is screwy there. I view the cohort we're speaking of as "religious" people who happen to be black rather than as black people who happen to be "religious," because white people who are similarly "religious" vote the same way, all other things being equal.
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06:15 PM on 05/17/2012
Since the same percentage of blacks is gay as any other group, this seems an odd idea. Gays are not all rich white men. There are actually black women who are gay, even Eskimos, even poor white men. The conservative hope of dividing gays and blacks is impossible. While it's true a larger percentage of black voters, and latino voters vote in a prejudiced manner concerning gays, it isn't because they're black or latino, it's because they follow religions that teach intolerance and think the state should follow their religion. As more Americans are educated to the separation of church and state, and as more of the prejudiced Christians learn to follow Christ's teachings on how to treat people, more people will support a gay citizen's right to their Constitutionally guaranteed right of equal protection under the law.
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Bob Kellerman
Let's have more sanity toward each other
07:38 PM on 05/17/2012
You omit...

1-- Black prejudice toward Gays is strong among the non-religious as well.

2-- Unfortunately, there is an element of "it's OUR turn to look down on someone", partly left over from Southern snobbery

3-- Many people see "keeping the lid on Gays" as a last ditch effort to go back to a more closeted morality for everyone
--- this is similar to White voters who hate Obama because he represents a lessening of White rule of the USA

4-- You include Latinos, who are somewhat more accepting, as surveyed. This is partly cultural.
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myplenny
04:58 PM on 05/17/2012
Not are all anything. However blacks are less tolerant of veerdos than whites.
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06:55 PM on 05/17/2012
What do you base that on?
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05:24 PM on 05/18/2012
Define veerdos.