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Mario Solis-Marich

Posted April 7, 2009 | 03:16 PM (EST)

Swing State Dem Leadership Defers Dream: Immigrant Children in Colorado Shut Out By Assistant Senate Majority Leader and Cohorts


Those that believe that delivering a critical margin of victory to Democrats in local, statewide, and national elections is enough for Latinos to gain respect from Democratic Party leadership should look to Colorado. Yesterday swing state Latinos received a slap in the face from the Colorado State Democratic Senate Assistant Majority Leader Lois Tochtrop along with Democratic Senators Morgan Carroll of Aurora, Jim Isgar of Hesperus, Moe Keller of Wheat Ridge, and Linda Newell of Littleton. Tochtrop and the other members of the "Dream Killer Five" joined with anti-immigrant Republicans and defeated a bill (that even Utah has approved) that would give in state tuition to anybody that attended at least three years of high school in Colorado regardless of their citizenship or immigration status.

From time to time a mistake is made by those in power in either Party that so upsets a critical part of its base that the shot is heard around the world. This weak kneed vote by the Dream Killer Five is that time, is that mistake, and is that shot.

Evidence of the outrage and the potential long term damage that Colorado Democrats need to repair is the interview that I had with Democratic stalwart and former Colorado Democratic State Senator Polly Baca yesterday. Senator Baca showed distinct, raw, and articulate passion as she decried the wayward Dems who allied themselves with Tancredo-like Republicans to defeat a bill already enacted by ten surrounding states.

Note to all progressives and Democratic leadership: watch this one closely and take notes: Colorado Hispanics/Latinos are about to make progressive history ...again.

Click the play button below to listen to my interview with Polly Baca's and hear her call to action.


Mario Solis-Marich is a progressive radio talk show host that can be heard in Denver on AM 760 and on the web at www.GoToMario.com.

Those that believe that delivering a critical margin of victory to Democrats in local, statewide, and national elections is enough for Latinos to gain respect from Democratic Party leadership should l...
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03:54 PM on 04/09/2009
Gee, I wonder if I'm legal. One of my ancestors was a captain of Onates' army and was stationed in Santa Fe in 1598. He never did fill out any paper work to be here. When Mexico got their independence from Spain, our land was part of Mexico as Mexico extended all the way to Colorado. Then we became part of the USA after the Mexican-American war. One of my favorite authors, Henry Davis Thoreau went to jail because he did not want his tax money to pay for an unjust war. My family's land was taken away and they had to work in the fields in order to survive. Discrimination was part of life.

Since I have a birth certificate in the USA, I guess that would make me "Legal". I paid back my college loans with interest and I have paid taxes the last 36 years that are orders of magnitude more than the loans and grants.

The point here is that, as Latinos, we have had to fight discrimination for generations and in spite of that, we have made significant contributions to this country even if it's just paying taxes and being productive citizens. The issue of these students being children of undocumented workers is an excuse to discriminate against these latinos. Yes we need immigration reform, but we also need moral reform.

I salute you Mario for presenting all of the information including what the true costs are and what other states have done.
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09:34 PM on 04/08/2009
Its getting very strange in Colorado . The only place this native born retired professional soldier was ask for his green card in all of the US . ( while on assighnment At Ft Carson)Since then I avoid Colorado and I live 30 miles away.So sad there are some great people in Colorado but fear is taking over the place ...to vote against kids. And one wonders Is this from a state where a Spanish and Mexican flags once flow over and taken in a treaty for a war that by all looks was a grab for land. Trying to hide its past with ultra anti immigrant sentiment. No state would have large illigal immigration if it werent for plenty of people looking for cheap labor. Colorado included
11:44 PM on 04/08/2009
I see that you are more concerned about 'your" people who I take to be Mexican, NOT Americans. Just what were YOU doing in the US military? I guess it was a good job and paid well and didn't mean muc h else to you. Too bad you were just there for the paycheck and retirement.

For your information, we Texans were initially fighting for the restoration of the Constitution of 1824. All the defenders of the Alamo died with that on their flag too. They did not know that independence had been declared. You should also know that there were seven other states in Mexico fighting the Santa Ana dictatorship. The Mexican government declared WAR on the USA which is why the war started. The US had simply tried to enforce the agreement Santa Ana signed as a condition of his release and which had been the de facto boder for years.

By the way, I consider ALL people who are citizens to be MY PEOPLE, not just white folks. You might try doing that too. I don't like racists be they white, black or brown.
07:13 PM on 04/08/2009
Well bless those Republicans in the State of Colorado who gave us the TABOR amendment. No one will have to worry about the current in-state tuition rates because they probably won't be around with higher education being gutted. Oh well, it is probably the just desserts for all of you Colorado residents - you can now pay more for your child to attend a Colorado school free of all of those "illegal immigrants" that you fear. Maybe when all is said and done, every in-state student can pay out-of-state tuition rates that you want to impose on those "illegal kids" residing in the state. It would be a fitting end to this nasty little story.
05:14 PM on 04/08/2009
Your example of Jesus the Marine is disingenuous to say the least. I didn't like Sen. Sessions playing with words about never having seen Obama's birth certificate when asked if he thought Obama was a citizen. You try the same thing by leading off about illegal immigrants who serve in the Marines, and then talk about Jesus, who was a LEGAL immigrant. You never said he was illegal, but try and give the impression he was. That is a disservice to him and his family who followed procedures and loved this country enough to do that. I find it terrible you would slander them in furthering your warped priorities.
The Marines will only take legal residents. If they took people who were not, his family could have stayed in Mexico. Or they could have done what many others do and get forged papers and SS numbers or fake birth certificates. It appears that they did NONE of those things.

Under current CO law, he most certainly WOULD be eligible for in state tuition. There is no problem with that.. It is the ILLEGALS who have NO such rights nor should they since they have NO right to be here. So I would think that the illegal children would be GRATEFUL for the free education that they got already. Instead, they complain that their law breaking parents have hurt them and WE should make it up to them. Sorry, Go back to the home country, and get their in country tuition.
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Mario Solis-Marich
02:08 PM on 04/09/2009
Well the look at this article : http://www.inthesetimes.com/article/3271/illegal_immigrants_uncle_sam_wants_you/
03:07 PM on 04/08/2009
How can you possibly think it is OK for an Immigrant, Legal or not,
to pay In-State Tuition?
The argument is RIDICULOUS!
They were not Born In These United States, Let alone, COLORADANS.
"Tancredo-like"?
Leave the straw-men out of this.
IN STATE TUITION WAS NEVER INTENDED FOR ALIENS, LEGAL OR NOT.
04:37 PM on 04/08/2009
You are wrong about that. If you are a legal immigrant having work papers, you are paying taxes, doing ALL the same things to support yourself and contribute to the government. Thus, it is entirely correct that their children should get the SAME benefits as ALL other legal residents of CO. That is a matter of black letter law and there is NO debate about that at all. You are simply ignorant and if they tried to exclude such people, there would be a lawsuit, and the "law" would be gone in a quick hearing.
05:11 PM on 04/08/2009
LEGAL Immigrant RESIDENTS are entitled to INSTATE Tuition.
I stand corrected.
I don't know why I typed my post with LEGAL included.
If I could edit I would take out LEGAL.
Further Posts below show that I am in Favor of US Immigration Policy.
Enforcement would go a long way in solving the issue.
Ignorant? I like to think not.
Opinionated? Very much so.
07:01 PM on 04/08/2009
The simple, no-brainer solution is to GET IN LINE, with all the other LEGAL immigrants to the United States and go through the Naturalization process, after which you will be afforded ALL the rights of a U.S. citizen.

Do it according to the Law, and there's no problem whatsoever.

Side-step the law, tough $hit.
11:31 AM on 04/08/2009
BACA - Why don't you get it? American citizens are sick of paying for the education and health care of ILLEGAL ALIENS.
11:30 AM on 04/08/2009
The "call to action" should be for all CITIZENS to hold elected officials accountable. They need to be "friends" of AMERICAN CITIZENS and LEGAL immigrants. This isn't about being "Hispanic". Are you saying that all ILLEGAL ALIENS are hispanic? ALL AMERICAN CITIZENS hispanic or not should recall Baca. We expect you to be there for AMERICAN CITIZENS not ILLEGAL ALIENS. They should always vote for CITIZENS and not ILLEGALS. Too bad if you are disappointed. These students should go to college in their OWN COUNTRIES. Not on our money. We should have never educated ILLEGALS in our high schools. PROGRESSIVES should be on the side of AMERICAN CITIZENS!
03:19 PM on 04/08/2009
Truth.
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Montreaux1991
11:57 AM on 04/09/2009
As the daughter of a LEGAL immigrant, THANK YOU.
11:03 AM on 04/08/2009
ILLEGAL ALIENS, no matter how many years of high school, should not be given in state tuition. They are here ILLEGALLY. They already drain our social systems. They should be DEPORTED! I applaud these elected officials who are FINALLY doing their jobs. We spend BILLIONS to provide health care and an education to ILLEGALS. We need to use this money on our own CITIZENS. DEPORTATION not in state tuition should be given to these ILLEGALS!
03:22 PM on 04/08/2009
DEPORTATION IS THE ANSWER.
(& I mean ALL of 'em!)

Before you go running off @ the keyboard.......
I'm 100% in Favor of the IMMIGRATION SYSTEM as it is now.
The U.S. allows in plenty of folks LEGALLY, Every Year.
Deportation OUT OF THE U.S., along with,
AN APPLICATION FOR CITIZENSHIP.
kkthnxbye
09:55 AM on 04/08/2009
What? they are criminals and we are closing schools for lack of funds and we the tax payer are to pay for criminals to attend school ?
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rabb046
05:17 PM on 04/08/2009
Left uneducated, they are sure to become criminals.
07:52 PM on 04/08/2009
Deport them to their own countries and let those governments worry about what they become.
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SPQR1775
08:49 AM on 04/08/2009
Are you an Immigrant or an American. This "fake" immigration debate is racist and it does not just affect latinos/hispanics, it affect blacks, asian and white europeans or it should. I bet that any white Russian, or anyone from Europe who come here illegal and there are numerous get a quick resettlement. Had any of these people been white mexicans NO ONE would have a problem. The fact is these so called democrats are REPUBLICANS who can't otherwise get elected because they runs in majority Democratic districts. It is time to effectively VOTE THEM OUT. Any children in America should go to school at the expense of the Goverment. It is funny, while they are young send them to HS the state will cover it, but keep them poor by not giving them college education? There is an ulgy racist and bigoted few who use fear to lie to the majority and it is no different than Bush Cheney tactic. Yes, EDUCATION FOR ALL. Funny isn't the children of immigrants AMERICAN?! It is OK for these kids to slave and work the white majority farms, build their home and cut there grass, but not good enough to be educated. Is this the new racism. A hispanic Majority will take place in less than 15 years, I hope the minority whites would thing twice!
11:07 AM on 04/08/2009
"Any children in America should go to school at the expense of the Goverment" are you kidding me? Why don't you pay for "any child in America who wants to go to school". I want my money to go to CITIZENS and LEGAL immigrants. Why should we pay for ILLEGAL ALIENS, no matter which country they come from, to go to our schools. ALL ILLEGAL ALIENS, from China, Russia, Mexico, or any other nation, should be DEPORTED!
03:25 PM on 04/08/2009
Read a book.
09:44 PM on 04/07/2009
There is a glaring loophole that MUST be plugged. If the male students wish to get in state tuition, then the law MUST MANDATE that they at least follow the law and register for Selective Service. If they want the goodies, then they damn well better at least follow THAT law, and be willing to do something to earn it.
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Mario Solis-Marich
11:20 PM on 04/07/2009
I guess you havent heard about the large number of undocumented young people that are serving in Iraq Here is some info for you:



In 1996, Jesus Alberto Suarez del Solar was a 13-year-old boy, up from Tijuana on a family shopping trip, when he stopped at a Marine Corps recruiting table at an open-air mall in Chula Vista, Calif.

Jesus had been an easy mark for the recruiter-a boy who fantasized that by joining the powerful, heroic U.S. Marines, he could help his own country fight drug lords. He gave the recruiter his address and phone number in Mexico, and the recruiter called him twice a week for the next two years, until he had talked Jesus into convincing his parents to move to California. Fernando and Rose Suarez sold their home and their laundry business and immigrated with their children to Escondigo. He was 17 and a half when he graduated from that school, still too young to enlist on his own, so his father co-signed the enlistment form, as the military requires for underage recruits.

Three years later, at the age of 20, his body was torn apart in Iraq by an American-made fragmentation grenade during the first week of the invasion. In the Pentagon's official Iraq casualty database, his death is number 74.


Would you have given him tuition?
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CitizenT
10:51 AM on 04/08/2009
once he had been granted citizenship, by all means! Prior to becoming a legal citizen or resident alien, no.

Public schools and universities are funded by state and federal tax dollars. Illegal immigrants are usually not paying either, are they? You only have to look at California to see what happens when you give benefits to far more people than you collect revenue from. This is not about racism, but about simple math.
03:35 PM on 04/08/2009
THIS is the example you chose to use?

Let me get this straight.......at the behest of a "recruiter", Hey-Zeus" was able to convince, Fernando & Rose to, not only sell their Home, but, the family business as well.
All based off of the Idea that he was going to come to the U.S., save "his own country"
and WTF are you even talking about?!!
Fernando & Rose were able to just Move right into the States like that?
Heck, if it's so easy, WHY DON'T THEY ALL DO IT?
So Fernando had to sign?
How'd that work? Is Fernando Legal?
I'm guessing not, otherwise, the example sucks even worse.
IF, emphasis on IF,
"Hey-Zeus" became a LEGAL CITIZEN,
HELL NO HE ISN'T ENTITLED TO IN-STATE TUITION.

HOW CAN YOU POSSIBLY THINK HE IS?

CITIZENSHIP & The CHANCE to be Educated not enough?

Shame on you.
04:10 PM on 04/07/2009
"Immigrant children"??? I think not. Ohhhhhh, you mean children who are Mexican citizens. Is the government of Mexico going to reimburse the United States for educating their citizens?
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Montreaux1991
04:45 PM on 04/07/2009
Bingo!

I hope New York follows suit.
03:37 PM on 04/08/2009
If my spouse sneaks into Canada & gives birth,
have I Just fathered a Canuck?
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conductrix
03:13 PM on 04/07/2009
Preach, Mario! Colorado Democrats, we warned: we Latinos are watching. Even now, we're becoming part of the Democratic Party infrastructure more and more, and if you can't stand on the side of justice, you will be pushed out. No more Republicans in sheep's clothing!
04:14 PM on 04/07/2009
Define "justice" as you see it. Is it justice to pay for the education of foreign citizens who are here illegally? Are you running a shelter for illegals who are hungry and need a place to live? Bet not.

Are you an American or a Mexican, cuz "latino" doesn't clarify.
04:36 PM on 04/07/2009
What difference does it make from as to whether conductrix is? I'm sorry, but your responses smack of racism.

As to your first comment, I'd rather have educated people than non-educated, regardless of status. That bill doesn't cost us Colorado taxpayers any money at all. Those kids were raised here, and if we can grant them the same pay-rates as other kids who reside here, to me, that's good. Those kids, once they graduate, I'd hope would become productive American citizens, paying taxes, buying goods and services that help keep us all employed. I wish we'd have some accelerated way to get those students to become official citizens as well.

Those kids aren't here by choice, and all they want to do is join the American dream, go to college, get a degree, get a good job or start a business, and somewhere between those personal milestones, become an official citizen.
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Rmchairphilo
04:39 PM on 04/07/2009
Go back and re-read the article, and this time with comprehension. Nobody asking for anything "free." The bill was to allow the children of immigrants, many of them American citizens, the right to pay college tuition at an "in-state" rate.
04:06 PM on 04/08/2009
Preach? Slow your roll, Pedro.
I'll be the first Latino, Native Coloradan, Unaffiliated Voter, to say:
You're not Speaking for Me! nor My Family!

BRAVO to Colorado Lawmakers! From My whole Familia!!