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Alan Greenspan Bravely Rushes To JPMorgan Chase's Defense, With A Bucket Of Nonsense

Posted: 06/08/2012 4:40 pm

It was only a matter of time before it happened: Alan Greenspan has come to the defense of JPMorgan Chase.

Yes, the Alan Greenspan, the same man who helped make it possible for banks like JPMorgan to get big enough to annihilate the financial system. The same man who made it easier for those banks to shoot craps with their spare cash while also holding federally insured deposits. The same man who kept derivatives from being troubled by regulation, in the name of market efficiency.

The very man, in other words, who is as responsible as any other human being alive or dead for the financial crisis that affects us all to this day. And he apparently wants to have another one, because he still sees absolutely nothing wrong with any of this, if a new interview with CNBC is any guide.

The truly remarkable thing about this story is that Greenspan, rather than being driven from society to live the rest of his days in the wilderness foraging for roots and berries, continues to find people to listen to what he has to say, despite his being utterly discredited.

Nonetheless: Greenspan was recently asked by CNBC for his opinion about JPMorgan's loss in the credit-derivatives market, initially measured at about $2 billion but recently estimated to have crossed $4 billion. Greenspan responded that it was mere pocket change for JPMorgan, a pittance for a bank with almost $200 billion in equity.

And so it is. Had Greenspan simply clammed up at that point, he would not have drawn the attention of the irony gods waiting to hurl lightning bolts at him for his latest bout of un-self-aware nonsense, but Alan Greenspan is not the type of man who will shut up! Ever! Never ever ever!

No, Alan Greenspan had to keep on going, like he does, and explain how JPMorgan's big loss in credit derivatives is a sign that the invisible hand of the market is in control of the universe, and that, in a lake of eternal fire somewhere, Ayn Rand is smiling:

"My point is that you have to recognize that banks will lose money on occasion," Greenspan said, "because that's the way the system eliminates unproductive capital. Implicit in creating growth and productivity comes some degree of failure. If you have banks that are 'too big to fail', it implies you are using the government as a buttress to prop up otherwise unproductive failing institutions."

At which point the irony gods began to hurl their lightning bolts at Greenspan, but they were so blinded by their rage at him that they missed him entirely, leaving him free to continue to spout his dangerous hogwash.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with investment banks taking risks and allocating capital, as they have always done. But when those investment banks are fused together with federally insured deposit-holding commercial banks to form capital-destroying cyborgs -- as happened in the 1990s under the approving gaze of then-bank regulator Alan Greenspan -- the idea that this is any sort of pure capitalism becomes a joke. Bank risk-taking immediately becomes backstopped and subsidized by the federal government. Not only is capital no longer being allocated efficiently, it makes the ghost of Ayn Rand cry.

In a way you could almost feel sorry for Alan Greenspan, whose Randian ideals have apparently not been tempered by reality. You could almost see him as a harmless throwback, tilting at imaginary windmills. That Greenspan, you could almost think, what's he going to say next?

Except his worldview is still embraced by people taken far more seriously than he is: People like Michael Bloomberg and Blackrock CEO Larry Fink, who have also recently defended JPMorgan's loss with similar arguments. People like JPMorgan CEO Jamie Dimon and all of his peers, who still do not see the virtue in breaking up the banks that are too big to fail and driving the casinos out of deposit-holding banks.

It's still Alan Greenspan's world, and we still live in it.

 
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DJleary
05:46 PM on 06/11/2012
In 2008 we elected the CHANGE CANDIDATE. The fraud in chief surrounded himself with the VERY SAME criminals, Summers in particular, and squandered a once in a lifetime opportunity to move us in another direction.
He had the option of anointing a Brooksley Born, but opted instead for the criminals.

Obama is part of the rotten system which we are all being swept away in. Don't support the rot.
01:29 PM on 06/14/2012
So, DJ, what is your alternative?
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DJleary
03:15 PM on 06/14/2012
I plan to write in my vote- it will not be BS Obama.
I'm off the merry go round - come what may.
04:29 PM on 06/11/2012
I'm sorry, I am as left leaning as the most leftist guy in the world, but these two propositions say exactly the same thing to me:

(Greenspan) "If you have banks that are 'too big to fail', it implies you are using the government as a buttress to prop up otherwise unproductive failing institutions." = (Gongloff) "But when those investment banks are fused together with federally insured deposit-holding commercial banks to form capital-destroying cyborgs -- as happened in the 1990s under the approving gaze of then-bank regulator Alan Greenspan -- the idea that this is any sort of pure capitalism becomes a joke. Bank risk-taking immediately becomes backstopped and subsidized by the federal government."

As I see it. Greenspan and Gongloff agree. I remember Greenspan manifested a change of heart around 2008. He still seems consistent with it. And Gongloff sees nothing wrong with "pure" investment banking. So, what's the fuss?
cavek1
The needs of the 99% outweigh the needs of the 1%.
04:21 PM on 06/11/2012
It is startling to me how we need rules for everything we might do in our lives:
sports of all kinds, board games, spelling, solving equations, answering questions on a test, driving a car, filing a tax return, playing horse shoes, table etiquette, etc, etc, yet we allow as a nation, the bankers and wall street to gamble people's money away, our money, and say absolutely nothing to the government about reining in these greedy, arrogant, selfish fools. I am truly out of touch with my surroundings.
02:50 PM on 06/11/2012
Greenspan has ZERO credibilty. Just another fraud posing as a "financial expert".
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02:12 PM on 06/11/2012
Glad to see that somone on this site actually understands, kind of, who the real culprits were in the financial crisis.

He forgot to mention that it was Bill Clinton, at the urging of some powerful senate Republicans, who ALOWED the Wall St banks to enter the mortgage business.

And yes it was Greenspan and Larry Summers who convinced Clinton to fire the woman at a small regulatory agency who had intended to REGULATE "derivatives & credit defaut swaps," that led to a Goldman Sachs trader to figure out a way to use these instruments to make a bundle, and EXACERBATE the crisis, CAUSED mostly by Fannie and Freddie LYING avout their exposure to sub prime loans by 80 times!

But it's a start! If you want the whole story, check this out fromPBS: Titled "The Warning." http://video.pbs.org/video/1302794657
01:37 PM on 06/11/2012
Recall that when questioned by Congress on the Financial Collapse during Bush's final days, the heady intellectual, guru Greenspan said: I believed in deregulation because i never imagined that anyone would be so selfish and greedy, i figured on rational thinking not abject powermongering and unchecked selfish greed. Gee ask any person over the age of 14 and they would have guessed that the system was set for nothing but greed and power grabbing by a few ! wish i was as smart as Alan Greenspan then i wouldn't see all of the corruption around me either
12:38 PM on 06/11/2012
If JP Morgan lost $ 2 or $ 4 Billion who found IT? Please finish the story. Maybe they were misled or even criminally deceived.
Where is the money?
12:22 PM on 06/11/2012
Just arrest a couple of secretaries and a bank teller or two and call it solved.
12:16 PM on 06/11/2012
I agree 100 percent. Capitalism failed in 2008. It destroyed itself and the stop gap is only temporary. These banks will fail soon and we won't be able to stop it (Europe). Then the pension funds will fail; the bond market will freeze and liquidity will be a thing of the past. It will make the 1930's seem like the good old days. And I don't think it can be stopped. And we will all die on the altar of free market capitalism. What these guys just don't get, is that market corrections can be devastating and market driven. When the market does correct, there may not be much left after the correction.
12:10 PM on 06/11/2012
Alan The Green Man with green for those who are connected.
12:06 PM on 06/11/2012
He stood up for him because secretly, Chase is one of the secret controllers of the fed.
11:33 AM on 06/11/2012
Ok, so JP lost 4 billion so what; our government loses that in a day and that's just chump change when it comes to 535 billion for Solyndra and billions fall through the cracks everyday. The media makes a big deal out of this lose.
02:52 PM on 06/11/2012
A correction is in order: $536 Millions - not Billions.
11:41 PM on 06/11/2012
Stop repeating yourself.....
02:53 PM on 06/11/2012
It's $535 Million not Billons~
11:40 PM on 06/11/2012
Your point billion, million its a lose.
11:32 AM on 06/11/2012
he also defends corzine
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10:50 AM on 06/11/2012
Greenspan? Still giving credence to his big SNAFU?

Doesn't he need to spend more time with his family ? Or rolling in his $$$$$$$$$ in the Cayman Isles?
09:59 AM on 06/11/2012
Congress could fix this overnigth . Just put Glass/Steagall back.
10:50 AM on 06/11/2012
You are right, Congress could fix a lot of stuff if they wanted....but they don't. The reason being is they like things just as they are because it gives them more power....ex, IRS, drilling for oil, alternative energy sources, fuel efficient motor vehicles, pork barrel projects, term limits, campaign finance reform, etc. But once the economy collapses & the American people's wrath is at a maximum then they'll give it a try but it'll be too late.
01:09 PM on 06/11/2012
I completely agree.
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john yunker
God gave you that mouth...Use it
01:14 PM on 06/11/2012
What aren't we pi$$ed off enough already? Yes..But beacause we really can't do anything about any of it, we are deemed insignificant !!