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Mark Green

Mark Green

Posted: November 28, 2007 10:04 AM

RudyWatch III: Can CNN Decode Rudy's Rhetoric Tonight?


Dear Anderson Cooper,

It's been a year since Rudy Giuliani threw his halo into the ring -- and it's past time for the national press to penetrate his 9/11 Teflon to get at his record and character. It could start with you tonight at CNN's YouTube debate.

After my experience as NYC's public advocate, the city's #2 elected official, for all of Giuliani's eight years as mayor, I've been able to reduce his repeated refrains to four, listed below. Basically they all serve to obscure those parts of his public and private life that can't stand up to scrutiny by Republican primary voters.

You prominently exposed governmental gobbledygook after Hurricane Katrina. Hope you can do the same with Rudy's evasions. Under pressure, he insults, exaggerates, jokes or admirably concedes that he's not perfect:

*Insults. Those of us who served with him in government experienced a ruthless, dour man. When someone would disagree with his policies, his immediate reaction was to destroy, not debate, an impulse he has managed to sheath this year behind a toothy grin. Until recently. Here are his responses in the past two weeks alone to Joe Biden on his over-use of 9/11, John McCain on Bernard Kerik, and Fred Thompson on guns -- Biden was a plagiarist 20 years ago; McCain was ensnared in the Keating Five scandal 20 years ago; and Thompson is merely an "actor and lobbyist."

Ok. But what about the content of their critiques? Giuliani's personal, nasty counterattacks never answer the substantive charge, but that's the point.

*Exaggerations. Mark Twain calls these "stretchers," the germ of a truth distended beyond recognition. He uses this very, very often because of a Paul Bunyan complex that he's very, very terrific. Hence he'd be "very, very" comfortable with Judith Nathan, his wife, sitting in on Cabinet meetings because she's somehow a bio-terrorism expert. Religion is a "very, very" important part of his life, even if he rarely attends church.

He can hardly say something resembling a fact without distorting it. Yes, he spent some time at the "pile" after the 9/11 attacks but for effect he couldn't resist adding that he spent "as much time, if not more" than rescue workers, which is not remotely true. Yes crime fell impressively while he was mayor, but not 74 percent -- perhaps he's counting the steady decline for 36 straight months under his predecessor David Dinkins (and indeed for the seven years since Rudy left office). Yes, the rate of survival for prostate cancer is slightly higher in the U.S. than Great Britain but no where near the 88 percent to 44 percent gap that he falsely attributes to "socialized medicine." Yes, he had some familiarly with terrorism pre-9/11 but a) had next to nothing to do with the Klinghoffer-PLO case, according to Justice Department officials, and b) never mentioned the subject in his screening of Police Commissioner candidates after the first '93 World Trade Center attack.

More recently are these two beauts. Despite some "issues" with Bernard Kerik, Giuliani insists that he was a great commissioner and only one of a thousand appointments. Issues? Like being serially corrupt and mob-connected? And he wasn't merely pluribus unum but a bodyguard who became Giuliani's corrections commissioner, police commissioner, a partner in Giuliani Partners and nearly Homeland Security secretary at Rudy's urging. And "sleep deprivation," which is torture according to the Geneva Convention, is nothing serious because then "running for president is torture" allowing Giuliani little sleep, said a celebrity who flies on private jets and eats well when not resting in four-star hotels.

Then there's a whole body of responses that go beyond tall tales. Giuliani says he put his emergency command center back in the World Trade Center complex after the '93 attack because that's what his experts recommended. But Jerry Hauer, his top anti-terrorism advisor, has the memos proving that Giuliani wanted it within walking distance of City Hall at World Trade, not safely underground in Brooklyn.

But deterring Giuliani from continuing his penchant for overstatements or lies is about as easy as damming up a raging river. Until an opponent or the media figure out how to preemptively mock this habit ("Rudy's Rampage, Part 14", "There he goes again, again"), watch for him to continue misstating facts knowing that tabloids and Fox will headline his attack while burying or ignoring the inevitable corrections later. (See, for example, Giuliani belittling Romney over the past weekend for increasing crime as Governor, an untrue charge that successfully provoked Romney into a defensive response.)


*Jokes. Then there are those quick New York quips which allow him to escape a close encounter. Recall, for example, when ABC's George Stephanopoulos asked all the Republican candidates what their flaws were, Rudy laughed it off by noting that he couldn't possibly answer in 30 seconds but would consider making confession to George's priestly father. And how can he flip-flop on such fundamental issues as choice, guns, gays and immigration. "I don't agree with myself most of the time!" has won him laughs and an escape hatch.

*Imperfection. "I'm not perfect" is his near-perfect, all-purpose slicker in a storm. Of course, since George Washington died in 1799, no one is. And his answer would also be available to figures from Richard Speck to Michael Vick. Fine Richard and Michael, now how about those shootings and that dog-fighting?

Most interviewers have allowed him to escape serious answers to serious questions -- about his record, his character, his temperament -- by not following up on such lame diversions. So he keeps them up for three reasons: his 1950s views are grossly out-of-touch with 21st century America; he lacks any deep knowledge about foreign affairs, or about much of anything other than municipal and legal affairs; and he really can't plausibly explain his Kerik judgments, his racial divisiveness, his failures to protect New York City before and after 9/11, not to mention his earlier ardent support for reproductive rights, gun control, gay rights and immigration.

Rudy implies those are all off-limits. Anderson, are you ready for your follow-up?

Best,

Mark Green

 
 
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09:38 AM on 11/29/2007
Rudy is just another low life and more and more will come out about him as well as what is coming out about the Clintons...is anyone really surprised?
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army193
02:01 AM on 11/29/2007
Why should MSM do anything.....Didn't you here its Hilary vs. Rudy we should all be able to sleep a little now.
01:22 AM on 11/29/2007
Rudy has been watching Dubya. That's why he lies and evades. He knows it worked for Dubya and thinks it will work for him.
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09:12 PM on 11/28/2007
This post is well done. I am watching the debate as I write and Guiliani is masterful at humorous details. But McCain and Huckabee demonstrate principled reason. I don't think Anderson Cooper has to expose Guiliani - he has exposed himself.
Ohg.
http://thefiresidepost.com/2007/11/29/republican-youtube-debat-november-28/
04:28 PM on 11/28/2007
As an Italian-American I am totally embarrassed and disgusted by Giuliani. However, I have no doubt that should he get by the Republican Primaries he will win the election handily; in which case God help the World! If you are concerned about the idiot currently in the WH, Giuliani will make him look like a saint.

Giuliani knows full well why he plays the anti-Muslim concept -- it appeals to those who support Israel no matter what they do. Florida and New York are key to his strategy. It's sad but that blind loyalty is leading the USA into an abyss that we may never be able to remove ourselves from in the foreseeable future.

Ultimately, those positions may be harm to Jews at large.
04:18 PM on 11/28/2007
Hey Mark -
I am wondering if it is true that the use of deadly force by the nyc police department increased under Mr. Giuliani and if so does that lend support to your statement
; "Those of us who served with him in government experienced a ruthless, dour man. When someone would disagree with his policies, his immediate reaction was to destroy, not debate, an impulse he has managed to sheath this year behind a toothy grin"?
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04:10 PM on 11/28/2007
Anderson Cooper can use all the advice he gets, because I have never been able to see solid journalism from him. So Rudy will get an other free pass.
03:06 PM on 11/28/2007
Now, Green should stop posing as a progressive and admit what he is. Both he and Air America are neocon. If they weren't, do you really think that MSNBC would put him and Rachel Meadow on as spokespeople for all progressives? It's like saying Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton speak for all African Americans. Ridiculous.
02:11 PM on 11/28/2007
Giuliani has found a strong base of supporters who still shudder over 9/11. Unfortunately, for him that and way too much press coverage is all he really has. Biden's comment about a verb a noun and 9/11 in Giuliani's speeches only expressed what most of us were already thinking.
12:56 PM on 11/28/2007
Thanks Mr Green, I've been wondering the same things meself. What everyone in this country fails to comprehend is on September 10th, 2001, Rudy was reviled in this city, he was more often referred to as "Adolf" than "Hizzoner". I think his positions on civil liberties, especially free speech, are terrifying and might actual be worse than the current administrations'.
12:38 PM on 11/28/2007
Mark....once again, and with the exception of Keith Olbermann, the ENTIRE national press corps is GUNNING for Rudy. You only have to tune in to the first 10 minutes of most political shows to know this. Rudy gets a pass on EVERYTHING...!!! I have stopped watching most news shows, with Keith's as an exception, during this political season because of this. I need to keep my sanity while I work for my nominee, whoever that may be.
12:25 PM on 11/28/2007
I'm not optimistic, since the media loves Guiliani. While some candidates (not the Republicans of course) offer complicated messages and substantive issues, Mr. Guiliani has a clear, concise message- Be Afraid!!! Sadly, this is more than enough to make this sociopath a contender for POTUS. Truly a sad state of affairs.
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charlietuna11
11:40 AM on 11/28/2007
rudy is an absolute master at taking credit for things he had little or nothing to do with.he now promises to appoint judges that will hopefully over turn roe vs.wade.we in n.y.know rudy is not only pro choice but backed it up by contributing to planned parenthood.i bet that will not come up tonight. he now portrays himself as far right of center...fact is he ran for mayor twice each time seeking and receiving the n.y.state liberal party endorsement where he recd. thousands of votes..bet that won't come up tonight.one of his key advisers is rep. peter king who says there are to many mosques in america..he never said what an acceptable number would be. i doubt that subject will be broached.. rudy evicting arafat out of a lincoln center united nations function is one of his proudest acchievements.every he attends a jewish gathering,he receives a thunrderous applause when he mentions this brave moment..i'm surprised he hasn't recd. at the very least the presendial medal of honor for this heroic act.. like cheney, limbaugh,romney,and their ilk,he was much to busy to serve in the military.that doesn't mean that he isn't willing to bomb and invade any nation the neo cons consider a potential danger..rudy is a total fraud which is all the more likely he will rec. his partys nomination..don't forget,it was churchill who stated that the best case against democracies is to spend five minutes with the average voter..has it ever been said better?
11:29 AM on 11/28/2007
Is CNN still on the air? Does anybody still watch this former news network?
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11:24 AM on 11/28/2007
Actually, I think that Rudy is the ideal GOP candidate.

He might cause Ann Coulter to return to her home planet.