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Posted: February 4, 2010 11:08 AM

Why Citizens United Is a Fraud: A Guide for Non-Lawyers

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For those who lack the time to read the 186 pages of opinions in the Court's corporate money decision -- and as progressives challenge the result in Congress or, even a Constitutional Amendment -- here's a 10 point guide to an absurd, abstract, unprincipled, historic game-changer of a decision.

President Obama was right in his criticism of the Supreme Court majority in his SOTU last week -- for over 100 years, federal law and courts had treated corporations differently than people when it came to political donations and First Amendment rights. Until, that is, Justice Anthony Kennedy's 5-4 majority opinion on the exact one year anniversary of Barack Obama's inauguration.

The Court explicitly overruled two prior decisions -- and invalidated the laws of 22 states -- to permit corporate and labor spending on electioneering ads in campaigns. (For now, existing bans on corporate and labor donations to candidates is intact.) The five conservative justices built their decision on two cornerstones: that money is speech and that corporations are people.

It's tempting to expose these rationales as fig leafs for corporate power -- much as "states rights" and "reverse discrimination" were high-minded excuses for keeping African-Americans down -- or just to LOL. John Oliver on The Daily Show defended big business as "our oppressed minority"; Stephen Colbert agreed that "Corporations...do everything people do except breath, die and go to jail..."; blogger Matt Yglesias asked, "Will SCOTUS give gay corporations the right to marry?"

But as Democrats gear up for battle, it's essential to appreciate the raw narrative power of the speech and personhood arguments...and to deconstruct precisely how radical, reactionary and consequential the Citizens United decision is. For in effect it replaces votes with dollars and seeks to supplant a progressive voting majority for President and Congress in 2008 with a one vote conservative judicial majority in 2010:

Precedent and History. Kennedy's opinion (for himself, Roberts, Scalia, Alito, Thomas) overturned and disdained prevailing constitutional law in two decisions. Austin v. Michigan Chamber of Commerce (1990) said it was permissible to curtail spending on political ads from corporate treasuries because of "the corrosive and distorting effects of immense aggregations of wealth that are accumulated with the help of the corporate form and that have little or no correlation to the public's support for the corporation's political ideas." And in McConnell v. FEC (2003) the Court upheld McCain-Feingold restrictions on "independent" corporate and labor ads that opposed or supported federal candidates.

Dismissing these cases as "outliers," Kennedy repeatedly implied that the majority was simply returning to precedent prior to 1990.

That's disingenuous. It was the 1907 Tillman Act proposed and signed by President Teddy Roosevelt Act first banned corporate donations to candidates using the same arguments that Austin made decades later. The 1947 Taft-Hartley Act specifically prohibited corporate and labor ad expenditures for or against candidates. 22 states also adopted similar provisions. One decision, Bellotti v. First National Bank of Boston (1978), did overturn a Massachusetts law that banned corporate ads in state referenda on the basis that there was no candidate to corrupt. And Kennedy repeatedly cited the infamous decision in Buckley v. Valeo (1976) that overturned overall spending ceilings on candidates, not on interest groups.

Justice Roberts's concurrence correctly, if somewhat defensively, concluded that precedent can occasionally be overturned, otherwise "segregation would be legal, minimum wage laws would be unconstitutional, and the Government could wiretap ordinary criminal suspects without first obtaining warrants." Here he uses great progressive decisions vindicated by history -- and following a Civil War and Depression -- to justify giving corporations complete First Amendment rights for the first time in 221 years. As one measure of how far he had to reach to change constitutional law, it was Justice Rehnquist in a 1982 case for a unanimous court who wrote that Congress's "careful legislative adjustment of the federal electoral laws, in a cautious advance, step by step, to account for the particular legal and economic attributes of corporations...warrants considerable deference."

Narrow Grounds. It's settled judicial doctrine that if the Court can rule on narrow grounds and avoid a constitutional ruling, which of course cannot be reversed by Congress in a statute, it should do so. In Citizens United, any thoughtful law student could have written a plausible decision in favor of the plaintiff here by concluding that its anti-Hillary video-on-demand film paid for by individuals was not the kind of corporate electioneering 30 second ads on TV that McCain-Feingold intended to cover, thereby never reaching Austin and McConnell. Instead it simply asserted that such grounds were "unsustainable" and used a "facial" First Amendment test, even though the plaintiff had not made such arguments part of its original petition and it had not been argued in courts below or in the first Supreme Court hearing.

All courts require that there be a real "case or controversy" before deciding a dispute between parties to avoid a majority of justices from deciding one day that it doesn't like some law or ruling and to assure that a real dispute be fully argued by interested parties. Not here. Roberts simply declared that there was "a difference between judicial restraint and judicial abdication" (a point he did not make in his confirmation hearings), even though not one corporation, union of State had petitioned the court since Austin to overturn that precedent. Or as Justice Stevens witheringly put it in his dissent, the court wasn't "asked to reconsider Austin" but rather "we have asked ourselves."

Censorship of Corporations. To read the majority decision is like an excerpt from Atlas Shrugged or a CATO Institute report - corporations are always small and gagged. Again and again the Court decries a " categorical ban" on disfavored speakers" and on the "basis of the speaker's corporate identity"; "the censorship is vast in its reach."

Forgive me but what planet are they on? Of course corporations spend billions on lobbyists, lawyers, advertising and PACS, not to mention owning newspapers and TV/radio stations, allowing them to get their point of view across loud and clear. The McCain-Feingold limits are not trivial but apply only to one form of advocacy -- independent ads using candidates' names and just before an election. Justice Scalia let the ideological cat out the bag when, in the concluding line of his concurrence, he wrote, "to exclude or impede corporate speech is to muzzle the principle agents of the modern free economy. We should celebrate rather than condemn the addition of this speech to the public debate."

Corporate PACs. If the five justice majority maintain that corporations are significantly disadvantaged in the political arena, how does it explain the reality of thousands of business PACs spending hundreds of millions each election cycle? It doesn't. The court simply announces that PACs are "separate organizations." It's as if they're not created by managers and funded by them and shareholders and as if they're not extensions of the company. As Justice Stevens notes, "that is, of course, the whole point of the PAC mechanism." And can anyone recall the GM PAC arguing for The Employee Free Choice Act and stricter workplace health and safety laws, or the UAW PAC arguing against them?

In case the counter-intuitive assertion that PACs are separate entities doesn't fly, Justice Kennedy adds another tenuous argument: "PACs are burdensome alternatives; they are expensive to administer and subject to extensive regulations." So why are there so many of them? Lobbyists too must comply with reporting requirements in pursuit of their First Amendment right to petition their government, but no one has (yet) challenged their constitutional justification.

Corporations are Jus' Folks. The majority opinion used a lot of words to say what Anatole France pointed out in his mocking observation that "the law, in its majestic equality, forbids rich and poor alikes to sleep under bridges, beg in the streets or steal bread."

What none of the five conservative justices admit or face is the obvious fact, to put it inelegantly, that size matters and that corporations aren't natural persons.

It's one thing for a person, even a wealthy person, to speak or run some ads, quite another when at issue are entities controlling trillions of dollars in shareholders funds, just as TR understood in 1907 and McCain-Feingold in 2002. Other laws (securities, antitrust, workplace safety) distinguish between entities of varying size and corporate versus non-for-profit status. No such distinctions, however, in the majority opinion. Or to use a distinction the Court would understand, imagine if one side of a case had three hours to argue before the bench while the other side had three minutes, because of their disparate resources.

The majority has no sense of consequence when it completely ignores both how a) corporations are granted special privileges of limited liability and perpetual life, unlike natural persons and b) can overwhelm and control elections and democracy by the weight of their wealth.

Shareholders' Money. The majority does at least acknowledge that shareholders money is being spent out of the corporate treasury. Their analysis is -- so what? It blithely maintains that all political communications are paid for by someone and come from some economic activity, corporate or individual; any problems can be corrected by changes in corporate governance rules.

This is truly form over substance. First, shareholders invest in for-profit corporations to earn a return in the marketplace, not to influence elections, which they can do on their own or in political association with others (the NRA, NARAL, the GOP). It's fundamentally a bait-and-switch to grant corporate charters that allow private actors to raise funds for economic purposes and then permit these vast treasuries to be spent for political candidates.

As for corporate governance giving shareholders a greater say, exactly how often has a shareholders' resolution been passed over management's opposition? (Private observation: in the late 1970s, I would periodically debate lawyer Antonin Scalia before bar and business groups on the issue of corporate governance -- he would charmingly and confidently always oppose expanding shareholder and Board prerogatives.)

Quid Quo Pro Corruption. A case that the Court frequently relies on, Buckley, said that Congress could limit corporate and labor contributions sent directly to candidates because of the appearance or fact of having a corrupting influence. But Kennedy et. al. simply assert that there can be no such quid pro quo corruption in this case since independent expenditures are "independent" of candidates. Indeed, they approvingly note that, in the McConnell opinion, here was no evidence of actual corruption in 100,000 pages of proceedings.

That reminds of me former Speaker Carl Albert's observation that he'd "feel a whole lot better if just one of them [judges] had run for sheriff once." There are of course few proven cases of quid pro quo corruption because it's hardly likely that a donor and candidate would voluntarily admit to a criminal motive when they can always cite some vague principle to justify legislatively interested money ("free enterprise", "limited government", "workers' rights"). And there's no need to tell an incumbent what will happen if s/he votes "wrong" since no one gets elected being so dumb as not to understand what may happen if you oppose ExxonMobil or The Chamber of Commerce on a matter of real interest to them. (One former Massachusetts congressman told me that when he complained about implied threats from a lobbyist for a big trade group, the lobbyist answered, "you think I like this any more than you do?")

Also, during an election and certainly after one, there's no chance that a successful candidate won't know who spent money "independently" to secure his victory and who s/he might "owe." That's not criminal but certainly has the appearance of influence if not corruption.

First Amendment Exceptions. The very first amendment is a bulwark of democracy, but of course the judiciary has carved out various exceptions to the explicit words that "Congress shall make no law..." A speaker cannot set up a 100 decibel sound system at midnight in a residential neighborhood; civil servants can't give to candidates under the Hatch Act; prisoners and soldiers can't speak without constraint, nor can foreign nationals; and pornography to children isn't constitutionally protected.

So could there also be come constraints on the political pornography of going back to the Gilded Age when candidates and corporations merged, when there was by all appearances a Senator from Standard Oil?

The Citizens United majority discounts all such exceptions as, well, exceptional. Laws limiting civil servants, prisoners and the military are said to be necessary to the effective administration of government functions; that's true. But that reasoning could easily conclude, as the Congress and half the states have, that McCain-Feingold and state limitations were necessary to the effective functioning of elections.

Courts rightly have said that only a "compelling reason" under a "strict scrutiny" test could constrain speech. Isn't the avoidance of corporate dominance of elections and the appearance of purchased politicians such a compelling reason?

Media Corporations. The majority makes the interesting slippery-slope point that if McCain-Feingold can limit the expression of corporate opinions, could a court apply that reasoning to newspapers owned by corporations or even books; it actually rhetorically asked if the novel Mr. Smith Goes to Washington could be banned.

Only very smart lawyers dancing on the head of a pin could make this reductio ad absurdum. First, this issue was not before the Court since Citizens United was a private not-for-profit entity, not a media company. Second, the Founders were very clear about protecting the freedom of the press, not the freedom of corporations which were nowhere mentioned in the Constitution. Last, courts can easily distinguish between Merck or Mobil and The New York Times or Mr. Smith. Of course, if a person or group wanted to create a media company or subsidiary to promote their point of view, they can do so, and have - like The Washington Time.

Speculation. Finally, when confronting other unanswerable questions about its unprecedented decision, the court majority just surmises away. They in passing note that McCain-Feingold might just be an "incumbent protection act," a motive that the Court can't know and one which completely contradict Chief Justice Roberts's pious prior pronouncements about deference of the legislative branch.

Then the majority opinion concludes that a rise in corporate spending and influence "will not cause the electorate to lose faith in our democracy." Since Congress and many state legislatures have concluded the opposite -- and with headlines and polls today blaring the opposite -- what is his evidence for this editorial opinion? None is offered.

In fact, the Citizens United decision is grounded in repeated speculation, assertion, leaps of logic, selected use of dissents, exaggerated hypotheticals
and a complete indifference to the reality of elections. (But why should only conservative jurists use the slippery slope? If the Court's reasoning is correct, why can't corporations vote or run for office as equivalent natural persons can? Like corporate logos on racing cars in the Indy 500, let's just make it official.)

So why did five justices really go out of their way to reverse a century of law and precedent? Because they could.

This is the ultimate example of what conservatives used to call a results-oriented decision. Like Bush v. Gore before it, instead of law and reality leading to a conclusion, a conclusion created law and reality.

And as Congress and the grassroots respond to this deeply radical result, there will be a backlash producing new laws or new justices that make clear that Kennedy, Roberts, Scalia, Alito and Thomas will eventually enjoy the same reputations as those justices who passionately argued in Dred Scott and Plessy v. Ferguson why the law required white supremacy.

 
 
 
 
 
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04:05 AM on 02/05/2010
2 U. S. C. §441e essentially bars any “foreign national†from making any direct or indirect contribution of money or anything of value “in connection with any federal, state, or local election.â€

The Supremes, in Citizens United, did not rule on §441e: "We need not reach the question whether the Government has a compelling interest in preventing foreign individuals or associations from influencing our Nation's political process. Cf. 2 U. S. C. §441e (contribution and expenditure ban applied to "foreign national[s]")."

I think you can see what I'm getting at: Since the Supremes have now given corporations the unfettered right to spend general corporate revenues on electioneering under the rationale that each real-person stockholder, director, or CEO has free-speech rights that have been, until now, denied through the collective voice of their corporation - doesn't that necessarily mean that all corporations could be banned from electioneering because determining nationality of stockholders is highly complicated, if not impossible? Drawing a line between corporations that are sufficiently free of foreign national influence should consider, in my humble opinion, whether foreign nationals are stockholders and not only the nationality of management, and directors.

My guess is that a case testing 2 U. S. C. §441e will soon be before the Supreme Court and they will decide that the nationality of stockholders does not matter. Instead, they'll likely rule that only if the management is 51% foreign nationals will the corporation be barred from direct electioneering with general corporate funds.
09:02 AM on 02/05/2010
This is why in another thread I proposed the coming dot.com boom of fully American owned companies selling precious belly button lint at US$1,000,000 per gram.
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10:30 PM on 02/04/2010
Mark--great article, as always! I don't know if you know this, but I am campaign manager for the first "corporate person" to run for Congress. See the HuffPo post I've just put up, and join the 120,000 plus people who've seen the YouTube video!

Corporations are people too!

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/william-klein/100000-people-and-five-su_b_450401.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHRKkXtxDRA
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08:47 PM on 02/04/2010
The Constitution grants rights to individuals, with the exception of "the press". That may have had something to do with most newspapers at the time being one-man operations.

It's ridiculous to believe that a legal fiction like a corporation has "rights" of any kind. I believe the initial SC decision said that there were times when it was appropriate for the State to treat a corporation as an individual but I don't see how that translates into a corporation's "right" to act as an individual.

All the people within the corporation (or union) each have their own individual right to free speech. To give corporations a right to free speech is giving the decision makers in corporations the right to free speech in their own names AND free speech under the corporate name. While the rest of us are limited to "one voice: one vote", those elite few get two.
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pangborn
09:27 PM on 02/04/2010
So if corporations do not have rights e.g., the right to sue, then they should not be subject, say, to lawsuits, correct? To say they can be sued but not sue may just violate something known as the 14th Amendment. Obama's trial lawyers will love you.
12:29 AM on 02/05/2010
There is no 'right to sue' in the bill of rights - you're sidestepping the central issue of the decision. The issue at hand is the right of the people to free speech being translated into a right of corporations to freely spend on elections. Money isn't speech, and corporations aren't people. Unfortunately for us, the conservative activist judges are not bound to reality or logic.
04:29 AM on 02/05/2010
They do have the right to sue. Who do you think brought this lawsuit in the first place?
10:22 PM on 02/04/2010
The Bill of Rights isn't just for individuals.

Amendment IX
The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.

Amendment X
"The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."
01:00 AM on 02/05/2010
Right you are . But corporations are a business enterprise. They are not "the people".
08:12 PM on 02/04/2010
Brilliant post, Mr. Green.

The most sobering line in your post:

"Like Bush v. Gore before it, instead of law and reality leading to a conclusion, a conclusion created law and reality."
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05:39 PM on 02/04/2010
Excellent article, Mr. Green. Thank you for this 10 point breakdown (the full 186 page decision is a monster to read...I tried it!) - very insightful and thought-provoking.

Not only was this horrific ruling a massive fraud, it was outright brazen thievery and worst of all, treason to the people and Constitution.

I cannot believe that five Justices would (with ordinary common sense and supposedly superior reasoning skills, not to mention their oaths to uphold the spirit and letter of our Constitution), foist such monumental garbage on this country in good conscience, unaware of the MASSIVE detrimental ramifications - unless they had been bought and sold to the highest bidders.

Stories of corrupt judges are legion - being Supreme Court Justices doesn't make them exempt. In fact, in this age of blatant corporate and governmental corruption, buying a Supreme is probably the biggest Holy Grail of all.

IMPEACH!!!
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jamenta
There are other human values besides greed.
05:42 PM on 02/04/2010
I second the motion. Impeach.
07:12 PM on 02/04/2010
I already send a motion with some signatures to Sen. Grayson....Haven't heard back.
05:14 PM on 02/04/2010
One of the great ironies here is that the original Boston Tea Party was actually an assault on the British East India Company, whose monopoly on tax-exempt tea threatened local merchants.

The contemporary Tea Party movement should recall the anti-corporate power roots of American history and join in trying to overturn this abominable decision.
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jamenta
There are other human values besides greed.
05:40 PM on 02/04/2010
You know - personally I'm still in shock that a decision like this actually came from our Supreme Court.

It really is scary.
05:54 PM on 02/04/2010
This decision shows that it may be time to rewrite the bible to show Jesus was a conservative!

Be wary of those who think people are anything other than people because corporations are people and Jesus was a republican.

If this makes any sense I have a SCOTUS decision I am selling too.
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09:18 PM on 02/04/2010
Steve, that is why George W. Bush nominated Roberts and Alito. They and the others who made the majority decision are corporatists plain and simple.
05:03 PM on 02/04/2010
"Congress shall make no law."

FIRE
05:07 PM on 02/04/2010
Good point succinctly made.
04:55 PM on 02/04/2010
Good article, all good points. But none of this will motivate the public to push for reform. What will do so is pointing out that SCOTUS has also completely gutted national SOVEREIGNTY.

What, exactly, now prevents Hugo Chavez' CITGO, or a Saudi-owned company, or US subsidiaries of China, Inc, from placing ads attacking candidates for office who would harm their interests? Nothing at all. Foreign nationals and foreign companies may be barred, but not foreign-owned US companies. Certainly not US-owned companies that might have lucrative contracts from abroad.

The five justices who wrote the opinion displayed gross incompetence on the bench. That is, the threat of foreign money pouring in through corporate shells to swing elections was raised during arguments. The threat was discussed in the dissent. The majority opinion, however, opened up the floodgates, yet gave zero guidance to Congress about what kind of law might pass constitutional muster and still protect the integrity of American elections, American democracy, and American sovereignty.

Threatening the integrity of American democracy while not noticing the risks explicitly pointed out, and leaving no clear guidance to Congress in dealing with the crisis so created-- this is gross incompetence on the bench, almost treason. Impeachment of the five is more than justified. Grounds for impeachment of the five are staring us in the face. It is time for Congress to impeach the five.
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jamenta
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05:01 PM on 02/04/2010
I believe these justices ought to be impeached. And I would like to at least see a move by democrats in our legislature to bring about impeachment proceedings.
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jamenta
There are other human values besides greed.
05:03 PM on 02/04/2010
If anything - by beginning impeachment proceedings, it will show the American people just how serious and dangerous this radical right wing movement has become, and how serious those of us who truly believe in "We the People" believe in our principles and the constitution of this great country.
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DavidShort
05:09 PM on 02/04/2010
The ones that should face impeachment, if one wishes to go to this length, are the Justices that believe the 1st Amendment does not apply to political speech.

Does anyone have a link to the dissenting opinion? I haven't found it, and I would like to read that opinion.
04:53 PM on 02/04/2010
So you think "Congress shall make no law..." means congress can make a law?

That is a strange understanding.
12:17 AM on 02/05/2010
Yeah, he saw you coming:

"but of course the judiciary has carved out various exceptions to the explicit words that "Congress shall make no law..." A speaker cannot set up a 100 decibel sound system at midnight in a residential neighborhood; civil servants can't give to candidates under the Hatch Act; prisoners and soldiers can't speak without constraint, nor can foreign nationals; and pornography to children isn't constitutionally protected."

Conveniently forget to read the article, did we?
09:52 PM on 02/06/2010
That is a limit on when it can be said. It does not stop those same people from speaking at 12 noon. The law overturned by the Supreme Court did.
04:16 PM on 02/04/2010
...and if you still do not get it, some inmates got loose and did damge to the asylum such that soon, more inmates will be in positions of power and control, and now you know.
04:07 PM on 02/04/2010
What part of "free speech" don't you understand? You want to control the message and regulate the messenger at the same time. Fortunately, it doesn't work that way.
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04:13 PM on 02/04/2010
And that is the core of this discussion: the control of information. This smacks down that attempt. Now, 'the people' will have to pay attention and use their analytical skills to make an informed decision as to how they will vote on a candidate or proposition. More voices mean more information, more positions. And this is a good thing.

Besides, most voters know who they are going to vote for or what prop they are going to support, so this is, at best, a technicality. A technicality that was too long in coming.
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jamenta
There are other human values besides greed.
04:22 PM on 02/04/2010
Most voters know that corporations are not living breathing americans and that when our American Founders used the words "We the People" they meant living breathing Americans.

Not corporations who's only interest is profit at the expense of the American way of life - or a radical right wingers who want to subvert our democracy and pervert our constitution to mean something that serves their own anti-american, greed filled agenda.
04:44 PM on 02/04/2010
Yes sir!!
04:57 PM on 02/04/2010
Wrong. The decision is breathtakingly incompetent. A corporation has no independent speech to infringe. It is only a legally-licensed megaphone for owners and managers to engage in commerce. Violate terms of that license, have the megaphone unplugged, and the owners and managers still have unfettered free speech.

A license to engage in commerce is a gift from the people to businesses--they gain favored tax status and limited liability immunity. The implied contract is that businesses will limit themselves to legitimate commerce, and the wealth they create will benefit both the owners and society as a whole. To use these granted privileges and generated wealth to then meddle in public policy is simply an abuse of the public trust.
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jamenta
There are other human values besides greed.
05:13 PM on 02/04/2010
Fanned!
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03:52 PM on 02/04/2010
Corporations are made up of people who don't need meet the qualification of American citizenship or being a contributing taxpayer. The unthinking conservabot members of the Supreme Court were not asked to make this distinction and, obvoiusly, chose purposeful ignorance to essentially overturn existing law. Weren't conservatives supposed to be the static ones with regard to interpreting the Constitution or prima facie law? Thank you Uncle Dubya and cuzin Dick for the wolfs in sheeps clothing. Our last bastion of maintaining check and balances has now played the biggest joke on all of us. What next?
04:30 PM on 02/04/2010
Imagine this situation. A congressional race hinges on support or opposition to a policy regarding use of raw materials. Let's say a mining company, incorporated in the U.S., GCG LLC, wants access to the area. They can now influence the race by running ads supporting the candidate in their favor, and against the candidate who opposes their interest. They can spend with no limits - running ads that tout the number of jobs produced, etc. Where will the money come from to counter their message? Perhaps the mining techniques will leave significant toxic waste. Now suppose that GCG stands for GĂ²ng Chan Zhu Yì KuĂ ng Yè Gong Si, or Communist Mining Company.

In the extreme, Al Qaida could register as a corporation, known as American Base Company LLC, and spend money directly for or against a candidate. Hiding behind the ABC name, shielded by layers of Swiss and Cayman Island bank accounts, they could support candidates in rich yet bland, uncontroversial ways so as to leave them beholden to Al Qaida.

This ruling isn't about making free speech more available - it's about making it easier to drown out the voices of everyone else.
05:01 PM on 02/04/2010
Exactly. The decision completely guts national sovereignty. The big multinational companies don't mind, but thoughtful conservatives ought to be howling in outrage.

Left, Right, or Center, anyone who considers himself loyal to the country should be up in arms over this decision.
02:26 PM on 02/04/2010
Why should a partnership be able to campaign but not a company.

Why should the NY Times and News Corp be exempt?
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jamenta
There are other human values besides greed.
03:23 PM on 02/04/2010
Because it is unamerican?
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DavidShort
03:37 PM on 02/04/2010
Prior to this ruling, any one could campaign. The problem came with the turn of a calendar page. That is what this ruling was. McCain-Feingold said political speech was to be limited during the drawing days of the election. The calendar does not dictate the strength of the right of speech. Groups can take advantage of this, but the ruling was about speech, not who would benefit or suffer because of it.
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jamenta
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04:27 PM on 02/04/2010
Free speech has nothing to do with corporations being able to spend any amount of money they want on their political candidates.

This isn't a Plutocracy it's a Democracy.
05:04 PM on 02/04/2010
"[T]he ruling was about speech, not who would benefit or suffer because of it." I understand why you would say this but I think it is naive. Roberts and Alito both chortled on after endless softball questions from senators about their fidelity to stare decicis and the limits of judicial activism. The opinion places their shameless hypocrisy on full display. These guys are just as arrogant as conservatives think the Warren Court was.
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02:22 PM on 02/04/2010
Congress AND the Chief need to step up and ACT.

If you don't NIP THIS IN THE BUD, it's over for this "democracy".
02:13 PM on 02/04/2010
You still do not get it. What does the 1st Admendment say? Congress shall make no law. It does not matter if its related to money, corporations, unions, or people. No law means no law. You see the difference between a conservative and liberal in regards to the Constitution is this: Liberals read the Constitution for what they think it can say or what the want it to say, Conservatives read if for what the founding fathers said it says. If you dont like what they wrote, amend it and stop crying.
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02:40 PM on 02/04/2010
Well there, Mr. Conservative strict constructionist: where in the Constitution does it say "corporation?"

It doesn't. And if you'd read something other than the crawler at the bottom of FAUX News, you'd know that the founders HATED the idea of the corrupting power of "moneyed companies."

And I suppose you're okay if I set up a 100 dB speaker setup in front of your house tonight and blast out my favorite tunes? No law, means no law, right?

M0r0n.
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Those little red panties they pass the test
02:51 PM on 02/04/2010
Nice smack down!
05:03 PM on 02/04/2010
"Congress shall make no law.."' Where does it say congress can make a law to censor free speech if it is a corporation. It doesnt - you would know that if you actually read the constitution. I you would know that obama's comment was grossly inaccurate if you had actually read the opinion instead of getting you information from the MSM.

Where does it say that the government can take private property for private use - ie Kelo by the 5 left liberal justices. Where does it say the govt can take private property without compensation if the owner of the property is a corporation.
03:09 PM on 02/04/2010
Where does the 1st amendment or anything else in the Constitution say money is speech or that anything other than persons are capable of speech?

Your plain reading logic makes it unconstitutional to have slander laws or disturbing the peace laws or incitement to riot laws.

If you want to define money as speech and corporations as being capable of it, or even that corporations are persons, maybe you should amend the Constitution to say so.
04:08 PM on 02/04/2010
And if "speech" were as all encompassing as some folks make out, why does the first amendment separately list "press"?